BottledDog

Alan Oliver - "And whatever may be wrong with United at the moment - and there is a lot - no-one in the game ever accuses them of not being fit." *cough*bullshit*cough*

No, you see it wasn't strictly his fault in the worst sense. It was unfortunate that he appointed Souness, but the main issue is that we as supporters never took to him - something that was dictated by neither rhyme nor reason. Had we done so, it would in itself have propelled us back towards the Champion's League. Arf.

Sorry, just had to quote this part of Oliver's report. blink.gif laugh.gif The fist line is equally bizzare - http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/newcastleunited/news/tm_headline=kieron-best-bet-to-arrest-dire-slump%26method=full%26objectid=18087231%26siteid=50081-name_page.html

Macphisto has already said that that was not Winsper but Ferris. Either way if one or the other did leave, who did we get as a replacement? .com still list both of them as: Assistant Physio Paul Ferris Fitness Coach Paul Winsper

For the sake of accuracy among what is a post of massive speculation on your part I'll say that we also signed Woodgate and Ambrose in 2003, not just Bowyer. That's true, I often made the same point myself when arguing that we had actually spent a fair wedge that year. But still, I think we had all hoped for a little more fine tuning, and in hindsight it looks a poor summer.

But (and Robson also highlighted it in his biog) it was also clear to everyone that as soon as Shepherd stated that Robson would not get another contract he was a dead duck, and the team subconsciously or otherwise would have latched onto that and taken advantage (as happened with Ferguson). At the very least that showed terrible naivety from Shepherd, at worst it showed contempt for a long standing manager. Either way, it was less a case of the board tuning a blind eye, and rather the case that the board were in a large way complicit in 'losing the dressing room'.

Well, when Houllier left they were not a million miles from us either. I know which path I would have preferred.

http://www.hdfa.co.uk/kingkrul.jpg DON'T MESS WITH ROYALTY

Thank ferck we have ample cover for him then, eh? /presuming he has been sacked which is far from certain.

Noted. bluebiggrin.gif

However 'overated' you feel Benitez is, he has brought them more glory in his short stint that we could shake any sort of stick at.

Fella over on Talk of the Tyne is saying as much. This would be the same Paul Winsper, head strength and conditioning coach, who Owen (along with other players) has called a 'fantastic fitness coach', and who lectures and hands out awards at FA fitness conferences. You can say what you like about our fitness problems, but I'm sure Geordie boy Lee Clark will now be the man to sort them out.

Willie McKay for manager!

Its clear you really don't know what you are talking about and you have just fabricated the 'I know only one manager... nonsense up yourself... oh I can assure you it is true. But I don't give a flying fcuk if you don't believe me Go on then, assure us. How can you assure us? You must be even thicker than I thought Its appears you think lots of people on this forum are a bit thick, but heres the problem.... You have been asked several questions and you have failed to address any of them. Your response so far has been... eekout.gif no, you mean the WUM and macbeths monkey. You can plainly see the WUM has been avoiding giving a direct answer for weeks to the question does he still think his man Souness should have had the full financial backing that he said we should give him, since he re-surfaced from his hiding place since dishing the dirt on the club . And actually - I could ask you, who told YOU that David O'Leary was offered the Newcastle job http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,32123.msg612713.html#msg612713 Don't leave me hanging. Im on tenterhooks here. bluecry.gif

Ahggg! What in the hell? http://www.theamericanmind.com/images/conehead.jpg blink.gif

What a bunch of negative nellies. We'll destroy 'em!

Souness was our second choice? That's pretty damning. Who was our first choice? Think availability...... which is hardly rocket science..... unless of course you think the club should tap managers on motorways and hand them brown envelopes who are already in a job ie I didn't say they hadn't approached managers through the correct channels ..... the dimwittedness of some people is amazing We all know Souness was a disastrous appointment, I am just correcting cyberbats for making up something which is simply not true. But he isn't the only person who does this. As HTL has already noted. I'm an idiot. laugh.gif Who was our number one choice? well, you must be, as I didn't even say he was the number one choice. I said "only one person was offered the job" and turned it down, and it wasn't O'Leary. Huh? What is it with people today, I know exactly what you were saying. I havn't a clue who you think was the first choice, that's why I was asking. I'll try and be clear for you. You say one person was approached before Souness. My question was, who? Sheesh, some people.

Souness was our second choice? That's pretty damning. Who was our first choice? Think availability...... which is hardly rocket science..... unless of course you think the club should tap managers on motorways and hand them brown envelopes who are already in a job ie I didn't say they hadn't approached managers through the correct channels ..... the dimwittedness of some people is amazing We all know Souness was a disastrous appointment, I am just correcting cyberbats for making up something which is simply not true. But he isn't the only person who does this. As HTL has already noted. I'm an idiot. laugh.gif Who was our number one choice? I know who it should have been. Me! The long queue of world class managers headed by HTL. http://www.cowgirlred.com/images/badgeman.gif Badges? We don't need no steenking coaching badges. thumbup.gif

Souness was our second choice? That's pretty damning. Who was our first choice? Think availability...... which is hardly rocket science..... unless of course you think the club should tap managers on motorways and hand them brown envelopes who are already in a job ie I didn't say they hadn't approached managers through the correct channels ..... the dimwittedness of some people is amazing We all know Souness was a disastrous appointment, I am just correcting cyberbats for making up something which is simply not true. But he isn't the only person who does this. As HTL has already noted. I'm an idiot. laugh.gif Who was our number one choice?

Souness was our second choice? That's pretty damning. Who was our first choice?

One possibly positive point (depending on how you interpret it) that comes out of Sheps latest quotes is that he is dying to tell us something regarding transfers but say's that he cannot because of stock exchange rules. He might be bullshitting, but you never know.

Possibly because we were still trying to make big money bids at the end of the last trasfer window, and Shepherd has said that we will. He is not (as some might have it) a perennial liar, and when he says that we are after a quality striker and a defender then you can assume there must be money available. I don't think he has much choice other than to find the funds somehow. I just hope to God it is a better period than the last time we had to dig deep to get a new manager out of a hole midseason, and end up with the likes of Faye, Babayaro, and Boumsong.

He's going to borrow £37 million just because he's piqued at people expecting him to take responsibility for his mistakes? In what sense is it a good move? who says he'll borrow £37mill ? That's the minimum he'd need to buy out the other shareholders. wouldn't be borrowing if he was leading a consortium Did it mention a consortium?

I'm pretty sure any whinging on their part is incomparable to the amount of bitter whining spouted every time you spot a TF related post on here. Keep on keeping on. i'm only pissed cos they ddint renew my subs but seriously, nothing iv'e read recently has come anywhere near what they used to print Fair enough, I'm not going to argue against that. I enjoy reading most of their stuff, but then when you find yourself nodding along to articles, the quality of writing is less likely to be so much of an issue. Hell I'll be getting a couple of copies, that front page is fantastic.

I'm pretty sure any whinging on their part is incomparable to the amount of bitter whining spouted every time you spot a TF related post on here. Keep on keeping on.