BottledDog

Hooray - the voice of reason. Honestly, the utter negativity on this board worries me. Posters wanting us to get relegated? Like the WTF. No deal at all. How is it possible to be this f***ing thick? You want to stay in the PL achieving nothing whatsoever for the next 30 years? We'll lets get relegated then - it will fix all of our problems in a heartbeat. No one's said that and continuing to frame the issue in such a way is ridiculous. If you accept that Ashley's primary, almost sole motivation as NUFC owner is profit maximization (because that should be clear to everyone by this point), it logically follows that he would have less interest in holding on to a club that's failing to earn him money. Relegation would undoubtedly put a major dent in his pocketbook: the disparity in wealth between the PL and Championship is ridiculous. Of course it could backfire and we could "do a Leeds" (which is really not a legitimate reason to be worried about relegation considering the completely different circumstances surrounding Leeds and today's Newcastle). But holding fast where we are, ambition-less and content to simply exist as a PL team and nothing more, is clearly not ever going to force Ashley to reconsider his ownership of the club. Can't speak for others, but I have trouble accepting that tbh. The only thing I feel I know about Ashley is that he will categorically not be putting any more of his own money into the club and has been running it solely on that aim since his first year (not even sure he gives a toss about the piddling profits we now make). Getting relegated won't hurt him much personally or in the pocket, it'll just knock the club back into more cost cutting. If he's not motivated by maximizing profit and he's not motivated by competing, why the hell does he even bother owning the club? Why the hell would anyone bother owning a football club if not for one of those reasons? He bought it for fun. Fun stopped. As long as it doesn't cost him anything (which it wont bar a potential sale value drop), and nobody is willing to take it off his hands, he can just sit back and use it to flog SD for nothing. I'm more hopeful that he starts getting some enjoyment from it again than I am of him getting upset by things like relegation hurting paltry profits and fucking off. And that hope is negligible at best.

Hooray - the voice of reason. Honestly, the utter negativity on this board worries me. Posters wanting us to get relegated? Like the WTF. No deal at all. How is it possible to be this f***ing thick? You want to stay in the PL achieving nothing whatsoever for the next 30 years? We'll lets get relegated then - it will fix all of our problems in a heartbeat. No one's said that and continuing to frame the issue in such a way is ridiculous. If you accept that Ashley's primary, almost sole motivation as NUFC owner is profit maximization (because that should be clear to everyone by this point), it logically follows that he would have less interest in holding on to a club that's failing to earn him money. Relegation would undoubtedly put a major dent in his pocketbook: the disparity in wealth between the PL and Championship is ridiculous. Of course it could backfire and we could "do a Leeds" (which is really not a legitimate reason to be worried about relegation considering the completely different circumstances surrounding Leeds and today's Newcastle). But holding fast where we are, ambition-less and content to simply exist as a PL team and nothing more, is clearly not ever going to force Ashley to reconsider his ownership of the club. Can't speak for others, but I have trouble accepting that tbh. The only thing I feel I know about Ashley is that he will categorically not be putting any more of his own money into the club and has been running it solely on that aim since his first year (not even sure he gives a toss about the piddling profits we now make). Getting relegated won't hurt him much personally or in the pocket, it'll just knock the club back into more cost cutting.

Think our useless gets managed to beat them to that on Sunday. Fair play to Pardew, cracking decision to jump when he did.

Hooray - the voice of reason. Honestly, the utter negativity on this board worries me. Posters wanting us to get relegated? Like the WTF. No deal at all. How is it possible to be this f***ing thick? You want to stay in the PL achieving nothing whatsoever for the next 30 years? We'll lets get relegated then - it will fix all of our problems in a heartbeat. What will fix all our problems in a heartbeat? Relegation. If not in a heartbeat, according to axel it means we will have a greater chance of achieving something in the next 30 years. Not wishing relegation on the club means you're fucking thick too apparently.

Aye, well, that's all well and good, but I'm not sure calling Defoe a lucky shit/cunt/fucker can really be classed as congratulating him. For what it's worth Krul seemed to me genuinely hurting after the game and by doing the interview showed more stones than most of the soppy lot on the pitch today. Why is Goufran not getting shot with similar shit for him and Larsson giggling like dizzy schoolgirls during the game?

I'm sure we've all heard the stories or had the odd half decent mate from Spennymoor. But it's time the floodgates were closed. Being serious, about the only players I'd be upset at leaving now would be Perez and Cabella (for the vague promise they offer), and then I'm struggling with the likes of Janmaat, Aarons, maybe Sissoko (though the inevitability of his passing has taken the edge off) and then possibly Krul and De Jong. Christ, we're in trouble.

Think of the hard working cloggers Pardew is going to be able to buy to replace Bolasie and Zaha. http://i.imgur.com/TXM1t6X.jpg

Good, bored of the lot of 'em. Time to give youth a chance. Preferably British. /and by British, I of course mean the Tyne valley and it's locales.

May I just say that McClaren strikes me as a particularly dour, ruddy faced yet passionless, belly to the ground chameleon of a man, whose interviews would grate beyond measure and would neither inspire nor instill any sort of confidence in the club for the term of his tenure and beyond. He can fuck off. McClaren out. /Opinion valid up until the point he is appointed, at which point I will of course give him a clean slate *cough*.

No. Damn my speed reading skills. Reminds me of Andy Cole and the questions over his condition that went on for ages. Know he donates a lot to sickle cell anaemia, but still no idea whether or not him having it was any more than pre twitter tittle tattle.

He's got Hep C? Blimey. Surprised we have different rules to the SFA on whether you can play with it or not.

Of course there are rightful concerns about why we feel the need to spell out our priorities. However, Pardew seemed contrite enough over his own failures in the cups and derby's on soccer Saturday to suggest there was no diktat from above demanding weakened sides, something the club have also denied recently. Maybe not as much effort as the rest of us would like to see put in (just as in every aspect of the club), but to suggest they'd make no effort to win a cup or anything else is bunkum imho. Never let the candle of hope die.

You have accepted we'll never ever win anything, forever? Good God man. You are broken. Can't be having that.

I think the intention was there, things clearly changed during Keegangate.

Oooof, low blow. http://i.imgur.com/LCfdnZt.jpg Prob not the best player choice for that gag Ah, fair point.

Oooof, low blow. http://i.imgur.com/LCfdnZt.jpg

4-4.

Good spirit in the 2nd. Loving Perez and Cabella, and hell Guti was canny again too.

Fuck sake.

Christ.

Fingers crossed.

4-4.

Not that I can remember, horrible performance. Needs to be dropped. Hard.

Pfft. Pardew is going to get praise, he didn't say he was unhappy that he left though. Steve Watson? Why'd he be praising Pardew? Didn't play for him, did he? The usual. He knows people at the club, they miss him, great coach etc.

HTL