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Fuking great. I heard he was the next Henry as well!

He means this Missed that in the confusion, i blame my rose-tinted specs. Anyone care to translate any of the other messages, as in the ones with some optimism from our side?

Have they just got that from the forum? Newcastle insider Karate_Kuyt has confirmed... Lol.. I don´t think I´m the only person in the world who was watching that football program on Dutch tellie. I think the pundit is generally quite well informed, so we´ll have to see if there´s some truth to this story.. Please find this link to a message on an ajax forum.. http://ajax.netwerk.to/nieuws/artikel/13008_%27Bod%20van%207%20miljoen%20plus%20Luque%20voor%20Ryan%20Babel%27.php Notice the first fan reaction too.. It just happens to be in English for your convenience.. Maurito 28 januari 2007 om 22:49:53 help mods! Alleen doen als hij niet wil bijtekenen. Mooi chantagemiddel. Wie wil er nou naar "the graveyard for your career" Newcastle? appugnare 28 januari 2007 om 22:53:16 help mods! Mooie ruil maar ik denk niet dat geeen van beide spelers interesse hebben. Mike1976 28 januari 2007 om 22:53:27 help mods! Je kan iemand niet dwingen, dus dat zal "helaas" niet gaan TNS 28 januari 2007 om 22:55:14 help mods! Strik erom! Leonardo heeft veel meer dreiging als linksbuiten. Centraal komt Babel te kort; goed met ruimte voor zich, marig met z'n rug naar de goal. Daarnaast is Luque een prima speler. Struikelblok zal zijn dat HtC het wel ziet zitten in Ryan Skoft_69 28 januari 2007 om 22:55:50 help mods! Graveyard? Shearer heeft het daar toch prima gedaan? Maar ik kan me niet voorstellen dat Babel dit wil....ik geloof eigenlijk ook nooit transferferuchten als er meerdere spelers in betrokken zijn. Babel moet willen, Luque ook....ik denk niet dat dit zal gaan gebeuren. Ik ken Luque ook niet echt goed...weet alleen dat hij een keer psv een overwintering in Europa door de neus boorde met een vrije trap in dienst van Deportivo. Mike1976 28 januari 2007 om 22:56:54 help mods! Je kan iemand niet dwingen, dus dat zal "helaas" niet gaan maxwellforever 28 januari 2007 om 23:00:06 help mods! Newcaste, dat is het feyenoord van Engeland. Aardig clubje, maar zal incidenteel een prijs pakken en zeker de komende jaren geen kampioen worden. Peter 28 januari 2007 om 23:01:33 help mods! Babel is gek van Arsenal, dus NUFC zal er wel niet in zitten. Jammer, want ik vind het een goed bod. R.E.M. 28 januari 2007 om 23:04:08 help mods! Als hij inderdaad niet bijtekent dan ben je een dief van je portemonnee als je het niet doet. Luque is gewoon een klasse-speler, als Babel wel bijtekent (die evt. gelimiteerde transfersom moet dan wel op zn minst 15 miljoen zijn, maar liever helemaal niet natuurlijk) dan zou ik het niet doen. chinom 28 januari 2007 om 23:05:28 help mods! Niet doen. Ryan is dit jaar enorm gegroeit, en er zit nog zoveel potentie in dat jong nigeldinho 28 januari 2007 om 23:10:09 help mods! Hop weg wezen die kerel. Erger me dood aan hem. Alhoewel... hij kan het goed vinden met Leoooooo Leoooooooooooooo:D maristeas 28 januari 2007 om 23:11:02 help mods! van mij mag het. Luque is zeker een goeie speler. en tja met Babel ze contract gaat het niet helemaal lekker. en zolang Huntelaar maar in de basis blijft maakt het mij opzig vrij weinig uit Aramz 28 januari 2007 om 23:14:37 help mods! Wanneer kan k Babel wegbrengen en Luque ophalen! joodse zeeuw 28 januari 2007 om 23:15:39 help mods! Van mij mogen ze m gratis hebben ajax1900chivu 28 januari 2007 om 23:21:36 help mods! @maxwellforever: Naast groot ajax fan heb ik ook veel sympathie voor Newcastle United. Het is absoluut een zeer wisselvallige club, maar vergelijk ze alsjeblieft niet met die club uit r*dam... Ik denk dat Ajax Babel nog niet moet laten gaan en zeker Luque niet moet overnemen, omdat deze vaak geblesseerd is en nooit echt in vorm de laatste tijd. Hij presteert echt zeer matig, terwijl Babel elke keer weer een aanvallende impuls oplevert. Met Leo en Babel hebben we nu verreweg de snelste en meest technische aanval, laten we dat alsjeblieft zo houden! Maxi 28 januari 2007 om 23:23:43 help mods! hij is gegroeid? weinig vooruitgang sinds die uitwedstrijd in Groningen op zn 18e(?)verjaardag.. -------------------------------------- God English has changed since i was at school. All the hip lingo, im getting old.

Interesting to see how he copes with the EPL, was amazing when he first burst on the scene in the CL, but has died off a hell of a lot.

Much rather swap Luque with Andrade or Coloccini. Babel is a talent, we just simply do not need.

For example, not one of them has been reliable this window as all have reported were on the verge etc, so all of them are as bad as each other. They all copy each other and very rarely have inside info. There is a guy on SSN's who really ITK, and tbh another good source is just general people with inside privvy, this tends to be the place to look. http://www.newsnow.co.uk/newsfeed/?name=Newcastle+United I've nver seen a storey that hasn't gone through this first, if your looking for on the spot rumours. But again, Newsnow will report just about anything, so there are plenty of red herrings in there.

They all can be taken with a pinch of salt, all are after the same thing, your attention. Until a club officially announces a signing, believe no one.

Off to West Ham if anywhere

Not think teams are thinking he's more of a threat these days? At first everyone was laughing, including our own fans, then he started getting goals, and now everyone is probably studying him a little more closely. Either way, a useful asset currently, although i think offering him a new deal at this stage is pointless. Keep him on his toes, no one bigger than us will want him, so why offer now?

Gone off the boil when everyone started rating him.

So your valuation of Luque is 700k? At the moment Luque has a negative value for this club. He costs us money and offers nothing in return. We'd be better off releasing him for free if he'd let us without compensation. I want the club to get money for him, i'm unhappy we cant even get him out on loan and a club will pay his entire wages, but tbh, its getting to a stage now where we need to get him away from this club by any means necessary.

The mistakes were made on £7m Cort, £6m Marcelino, £8.5m Hugo Viana, £5m Bramble, £8m Boumsong, £9.5m Luque, add to the list Bassedas, Gavilan and many others. Shearer was never a mistake, the best £15m spent by the club. Was floating the club a mistake? Was the PLC allowing FS to return as chairman a mistake? Was selling Ferdinand a mistake? Was letting Dalgliesh buy cheap crap and bring in his friends a mistake? Was appointing Gullit a mistake? Was appointing Souness a mistake? Was keeping SBR on a season too long a mistake? All these questions for me need answering before asking was buying Alan Shearer a mistake. The only mistake made was made by him for saying yes, he let his heart rule his decision instead of his head.

Totally mate, but its all i can see in him as i've never seen him play, his physical attributes are apparent, which means we wont end up with another Hugo Viana or Luque. You'd then have to call in his ability as a footballer, which i know nothing about TBF. (but a loan is a good way to find out)

Physically he looks perfect for the EPL. He gets good reviews back in his home nation, and has gained lots of experience for his age. Big name teams are looking at him, and if we do a loan deal with a set fee there is no risk in the slightest in signing this player. The risk is not doing so.

I think it would be great for him. I believe the defense is playing better since he's been here, i think were conceding as many due to even more injuries and suspensions to the little defenders we've got. Might help bring the rep of the club up with young English players, we need every help we can get.

Worth taking a chance. We need somebody, any-fuking-body right now. Desperation is kicking in, we cannot continue the season with the squad we've got. We need to sneak in to the Inter-toto again, or the big names on big wages find themselves with itchy feet. I couldn't give a fuk about Owen, Parker, Emre or Duff who'll probably be the first to moan, its Martins i worry about., best player we've bought in about a decade, we need to keep him, and to do that we need to get up the table, which will be near impossible with the defenders we do/dont have.

No. Knew from day one the club would let down its supporters. Out of the FA cup as FS is a tight cunt. Good, means he cant get any money from that competition in gate recipets and extra TV money, shame the replay was on TV, i bet he thought he'd hit the jackpot there especially with another home game coming if we were to go through, which we should of done. If we exit from the UEFA in the next round then maybe it will sink in that he's fuked our season up when it could of easily been turned round with a couple of decent players. Utter wanker, doesn't deserve to walk the earth the fat cunt.

Kamara on Chopra's Hat-trick "One of the best of all time" Its good like, but we all know CK gets a tad excited in life. Anyone seen it yet? Doesn't matter what level the goals were superb.

Excellent player, cant believe we are haggling over peanuts considering our situation and the players quality. Anything under £5m for him is a bargain.

Warnock Is Peter Ramage with a left foot. He is better though than anything we've got, but thats only as we have nothing at LB.

You missed fans off there are well. I never said he didn't have a reason not to be bitter did i?

I think its great tbh, and its done good for those coming in, especially the young. Souness after 3 injuries said 'what do you expect? Look at what am missing!' After another 6 injuries on top of that, no one has a shred of confidence left in them. They were the back up, utter shite, and couldn't do the job. Wrong. GR has got this one right, and i think SBR would like to say that, but cant for reasons none other than pride. Still love the old git though.

Were missing Owen our most expensive player ever, i dont think the sacking part was the issue or it would of been made more of. It was the amount Jose had had to spend and the injuries to key players, vitally the amount of moaning Jose has portrait to the media on top of that. (now lets think of the lack of moaning our own manager has done, tbh a record for anyone in the EPL considering, a much better comparison yet nothing mentioned) Also one player shouldn't make a team, if so the manager need questioning in the 1st place But again thats not the point, the point is, the old master is telling his student a couple of after lessons.

Funny how when mentioning injuries he talks about Ashton & West Ham, yet no a peep about our club and our ridiculous situation. Do we not exist? Is a full team not worthy of mention? Are you still bitter? The latter i think.

Not really, but he tells him whats what. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=431929&in_page_id=1951 Jose Mourinho enjoys calling himself the Special One. Perhaps for the first time at Chelsea, he now has the chance to prove it. There seems to be a change at Stamford Bridge. Jose no longer has an unlimited budget and, like other managers, he has to work with the players he’s already got or shop for bargains. Welcome to the real world! It could make or break him and the first place to start is by working on the training field to make Andriy Shevchenko world-class again. I’m sure it was a boost for Shevchenko score a couple of goals against Wycombe in midweek but, with no disrespect meant to the League Two club, it proves nothing in terms of the Premiership or Champions League. Even a hat-trick against Nottingham Forest in the FA Cup today wouldn’t do that. Shevchenko was bought to the Bridge for £30million in the summer to help Chelsea win their third Premiership title and the Champions League. Right now, after his poor form,I don’t think anyone would pay £15m for him. In an open market, Chelsea might get £10m from a desperate Italian club but no more. His first goal on Tuesday was celebrated wildly by the crowd, but it was a gift. He won’t get that against Blackburn or Bolton, let alone Liverpool or Barcelona. Alan Shearer was 29 when I arrived at Newcastle and considered on the wane. We identified the problem, in Alan’s case it was a lack of movement, and fixed it on the training ground. Alan responded brilliantly on the pitch and played another five years at the highest level. Until now, if a player at Chelsea has lost form, Jose has been able to buy a multi-million pound replacement. That situation has clearly changed. After spending more than £200m he can’t really complain too much about lack of funds. He should call Dario Gradi to find out how to do it! Shevchenko is a root problem and one that Jose has to get to grips with. He has always been a goalscorer and when he has a ball in front of him, he is able to keep cool and steer a shot home. But playing at the top level requires more than that. His general hold-up play and ability to retain possession so Chelsea can build off him have been poor. He has lacked movement and the pace to accelerate away from defenders. As a manager I know when you come up against a star like Thierry Henry, you reluctantly have to change your own tactics to counter him. I don’t think any opponent will feel they have to plan to combat Shevchenko, not even Nottingham Forest. And that saddens me because he has been one of the great strikers in world football, and is only 30 now. What Jose needs to do is improve his movement and team play. That’s what coaching and management is about. He should remember the time when we worked together on the training pitch to make Ronaldo the force he was at Barcelona. That’s the way to do it. In some ways, however, the mysterious goings-on behind the scenes at Chelsea baffles me. It can’t be down to results because Chelsea are still going strong in four competitions. I think Jose has made too much of not being able to sign players — no other managers will have sympathy with him for that. Yes, he has had a few injuries with Petr Cech, John Terry and Joe Cole, but don’t most clubs have to cope with that? I haven’t heard Arsene Wenger go on and on about being without William Gallas, for example. Remember, West Ham have been without Dean Ashton all season and he is as important to them as Terry is to Chelsea. And Alan Pardew didn’t have £200m back-up to get over it before he was sacked. I’ve heard it suggested that the Chelsea players weren’t really his choices, that Roman Abramovich or Frank Arnesen forced them on Jose. The people who make those suggestions don’t know Jose! He is a strong enough personality to veto any players coming in that he didn’t want, and he has shown his independence by leaving Shevchenko out of certain games,even if it annoyed Abramovich. Where I do have sympathy with Jose is if the club are trying to choose his staff. I have read that Abramovich wanted some of his own people in to work with Shevchenko and to sideline Steve Clarke. That touches a raw nerve with managers. At the very least they should be allowed to choose their backroom team without interference. That’s what Jose meant by respect. Jose and his family love life in London. He is at one of the best clubs in Europe and in the running for every trophy going. There is no reason to moan about life or want to move elsewhere. He has to do what all special managers do, work with the players he’s got. His record is excellent to date but legendary managers prove they can come through difficult situations. Chelsea will beat Forest today. Shevchenko will probably score. But will only believe he has turned things around when I see him do it against top opposition. Why I believe it’s best for Bale to stay on as a Saint I spoke to Southampton manager George Burley this week about his prized asset Gareth Bale. George was one of my finest players at Ipswich and someone I respect a great deal. So when he tells me that Bale is destined for the top, it’s good enough for me. Bale is due to face the other great teenage hope in British football, Micah Richards, in the FA Cup today. But the big question for Bale, who isn’t 18 until next summer, is what should he do now that is best for his future? George accepts that the player will leave Southampton some time but he would like to work with him at least until the summer to continue his football education. Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham are all interested in signing him but he would learn more playing regular Championship football than sitting on the sidelines somewhere else. I am sure it’s fantastic to train every day with Ryan Giggs and Wayne Rooney but nothing beats competitive games to pick up valuable experience. The Republic of Ireland play Wales in March and, after talking to George, I know we will have to keep a close eye on Bale. George says his delivery at set-pieces is fantastic, ability that is natural and can’t be taught. As an overlapping full-back, he is powerful and has the courage to take on the opposition full-back. But where he could do with a few more months of regular first-team football is on the defensive side of his game. There is a lot of hype around him. I just hope the lad can make a decision that is in his best interests. In my view, that would involve playing under George Burley at St Mary’s for the rest of this season — and hopefully next. ● Sir Alex Ferguson and Gary Neville are very close but I wouldn’t be surprised if the manager hauled his captain into the office this week to explain reported comments by Neville which said Mark Hughes would be ideal as the next boss at Old Trafford. The words "What has it got to do with you?" spring to mind. I know Gary’s comments weren’t meant for public scrutiny but I think Alex has earned the right to decide in peace when he will leave. And when he does, Alex will have the right to help choose his successor. Gary Neville won’t