Benwell Lad

Speaking of hypocrisy dickhead - note you are commenting here while we get banned on your fansites. You can go through game after game about not getting the decisions - we have claims on our 1-2 defeat at the Stadium of Sh*te. You get some, some you don't. But just to say again - hypocrisy ? We have a long way to go before we get to your level. How about hypocracy being euphoric celebrations over a 36 point season. I suppose it is twice what they normally get. How about hypocracy being none of the players or management team who represent Sunderland Football Club, and make vast fortunes out of the fans, will lower themselves to live in the place.

This fat picked on schoolkid turned professional referee muscleman was responsible for just one of the many appalling decisions which went against Newcastle this season, but his actually seemed pre-meditated rather than just incompetence. I hope he is paid back in full.

They've probably got the second biggest (real) fanbase in England, and still pull in the second largest TV audience for live matches after ManU. Don't ask why ?

Never understood how someone who was generally so ineffective, often disinterested and ultimately part of a relegation team got so much fan adulation. In recent years we've had players who took us into Europe and were openly hated. Good riddance.

A couple of retorts to any mackems in particular and other "fans" in general who take joy in kicking us while we're down. Let the mackems gloat for now in the euphoria of their 36 point season, after all it's about twice what they normally get in the Premier League. They still have to live (although none of their players or staff do) in a scummy city populated by inbred neanderthals whatever league they play in. Although of course we'd rather be in the PL, the thought of Forest,Derby,Sheff Wed and Sheff Utd appeals to me more than Wigan,Bolton or Stoke right now. The PL has become sterile and plastic, populated by mercenary players and "fans" who know nothing about football. 4 decent teams and 16 sets of cannon fodder fighting for leftover scraps. Football can only be exciting when you have a real interest in a game and watching Newcastle play Macclesfield is more interesting for any true fan than watching Barcelona vs Man Utd would be for a neutral or plastic. Don't worry about anti-Shearer songs at darts matches. Ironically it shows how important we still are to the sad f@ckers. It only takes one mackem to or manc start it off and it's an easy one for any drunk to join in with as it is quite catchy after all.

"IF ME DAD HAD BEEN A MAN U SUPPORTER LIFE WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER" Keep it defiant and humourous - any whingeing will play straight into the hands of a gleeful press.

Hull City home = worst atmosphere = arguably worst performance all season. Boro home = best atmosphere = arguably best performance all season. It's not rocket science.

Due to the ineptness of our midfield Butt has almost assumed the role of playmaker in this team. I'm sure it's not his desire. In a decent team he'd be told "don't go for long passes Nicky - just win it and lay it off" He is no playmaker that's plain to see but he's no shirker either and puts the team before himself - that's why successive managers have made him one of the first names on their teamsheets.

And this is the other one.

Would have been a year into the recovery plan though. All that this 'extra season' has done is get more over-waged s*** onto the books with no way of getting them off - Bassong excepted. But, as I said on the other thread' this is no time for recrimintaions and I-told-you-so's. But lets. Shepperd gave a f***ing clueless manager 50 million pound to spend on s***, journey-men and injury-prone shysters. Or 'proper players' as they were called at the time. The Hall's then sold the club to the first bidder to offer thier valuation of the club that 'they loved'. Well loved enough to pay each other and other members of their family extraordinary amounts of money based on large premiums year on year for their shareholdings (even when the company made a loss) or for salaries for running the Gibraltar branch of the club. But they'd sold it to a top class business man who hadn't done due diligence to note that he would have to pay the mortgage on the club within months of a takeover as well as the 50 million pounds worth of debt that the previous regime had given to the s*** manager two years ago. The lack of the required investment in the first team was then not forthcoming, breaking even in the transfer market, in a gamble that has probably relegated the club and made his investment a fraction of the value of his initial investment. So, who is more to blame, the 'overpsender', the 'leech', or the 'tightwad'. All are complicit in the current situation at the club Out of such a ridiculous and pointless thread title emerges this post - one of the two most sensible I've read in a long time.

I can't believe that professionals can be affected by banners and protests. We lost that day simply because the team wasn't good enough. What was our excuse for losing to the likes of Blackburn and the Mackems? Professionals are indeed professionals, but they're also human and the vile atmosphere that day would have a negative effect in just the same way as Wednesday night's superb atmosphere had a positive one. I seem to remember Phil Brown saying something along the lines of "we couldn't have picked a better time to play them with all that was going on off the pitch". Anyway my point is that protests should be kept away from the stadium on match days. It doesn't help anyone.

Anyone know why Rusedski was there? Will be named Reading manager tomorrow and took an early opportunity to run the rule over one (or two) of next season's opponents. Tim Henman will be the new 1st team coach and Boris Becker DOF.

Regarding my earlier comment, I believe AJ is going to be out. A mate of mine (Mackem) went to the Reebok on Saturday and said they were absolutelly s****, I seen the highlights and Richardson should have scored 5 on his own. My mate claims they are the poorest team he has seen (live) this season and it looked like they were ust strolling around waiting for the season to end. That's my fear, I had Hull nailed on to lose, but after what my mate seen, I'm now a bit nervous about it! I've said earlier I don't think Sundlund will go down but their relegation odds of 5-1 are generous and they are still very much in the mix. Wins for Newcastle and Hull and a defeat for them at Pompey is hardly an impossible scenario, that would leave them in the bottom 3 and needing a result against Chelsea.

that ought to be the average atmosphere. Used to be before it all became a bit plastic and sanitised. no it didn't. black and wfite striped specs on there benwell lad. I beg to differ. Maybe we're talking about a different yesterday. Go back to the old Leazes End and you had the crowd building from 2 o clock, no piped music just chanting and singing. The support was also a lot less conditional i.e. we carried on singing even when we were poor, cos that's what we did - we sang. SJP was famously intimidating for away teams because of the atmosphere generated, nowadays it's more like an orchestrated concert or Ameriacan baseball or basketball event which occasionally stirs from it's slumbers. Whatever - a repeat of Monday evening's "old fashioned" atmosphere is a must on Saturday.

That Tyskie beer's canny like.

that ought to be the average atmosphere. Used to be before it all became a bit plastic and sanitised.

Thank f*** we only had 37 more games to better that eh? But they weren't against Hull (the club we're now level with on points) at home. Eh?

What that demonstration at the Hull game proves (I think it was instrumental in our defeat - although some disagree) bearing in mind the precarious league table is that any form of protest should be kept well away from matchdays. If Hull hadn't beaten us that day we'd be safe now, if we do end up going down they have a lot to answer for.

Not much to add, a passionate performance and a deserved win, although if Boro had been a bit more clinical.......... Special mention for Duff, Butt and Viduka - if only you could get 30 games a season out of him ! Best atmosphere for years and one that MUST be replicated on Saturday - lets not forget that match is as important as last nights. Don't think the mackems will go down BUT looking at possible outcomes of the remaining games, quoted odds of 5-1 could be a little generous.

Our city does seem to be going a bit soft. First it's mackem players celebrating in town after matches and now this. 20/30 years ago mackems barely dared come up to Newcastle when THEIR team were playing, now there's talk of them coming up just to take the piss.

I'm right behind Shearer in his attempts to tighten up discipline in the club, but he needs to avoid doing it in a Souness/Bellamy type way. Barton is trouble sure - but he's not a dirty player and the challenge was nothing more than reckless on Sunday - a yellow at most. It would not have been a red if the other way round. This could be Shearer's first managerial mistake. He should look at the way Steve Bruce stood up for Cattertmole - a real serial thug on the pitch - and not bring further unwanted attention to the club. Gerrards dirty tackle on Solano a few years ago was far worse than Barton's and he got away Scot-free as normal. Anyone remember Shearer's challenge on Lennon ? Just one more thing that has gone wrong in this most horrible of seasons.

Summed up the level British journalism in general - and that buffoon in particular - has sunk to, in a nutshell.

Balanced and rational as ever Bob, only point I can't agree with is Owen who imo is still our best and most experienced player i.e. just the sort we need right now. I remember a thread some time ago when the heat was on, flak was flying everywhere, the club in turmoil and the fans as usual arguing and fighting amongst themselves, someone on here posted (can't remember who) that they should just make Shearer manager - then if he fails they could burn down St.James Park and be done with it. Perhaps that time has arrived ?

Lawrie MacMenemy - Sunderland's best ever manager - on a the train from Waterloo to Southampton, and (believe it or not) Alan Shearer with wife and friends on the ferry from Southampton to Isle of Wight this morning, got to exchange a couple of words with him but haven't got a clue what he would be doing over there ?? I'm on a roll - which Geordie legend will it be next ?

I'm not sure about Llambias but I trust the so called NUSC even less. They change their direction like the wind trying to find the popular chord they thought they had found with the anti-Ashley agenda they latched on to. One of them accused me of not being a Newcastle fan ( despite almost 50 years of following the team ) because I disagreed with them. A bullying dogmatic approach - hardly the definition of a "supporters club". I'd like to see a supporters club, a bit like the old Newcastle United Supporters Club I was once a member of, i.e a club which supported the football club and not a group intent on de-stabilising NUFC in any way they can. They should drop the title "supporters club" as most supporters want nothing to do with them. This group of rent-a-quote political wannabees should adopt a name more in keeping with their agenda and objectives.