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I remember being frustrated this was going into May.

As I said earlier, I'm at a bit of a loss as to why he's saying this to the media when surely, if he wants to know, he just needs to ring Charnley or Ashley and ask them. I can only summise that Ashley is not telling anyone inside the club a single thing. I thought that was understood anyway.

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More concerned that Manquillo has been given a four year deal tbh.

8-10 years ago you could watch PL games in nearly every pub illegally. I'm not sure its got any worse.

Have to say I'm fuckin sick of this. At a time when there's positive stories about football around, Marcus Rashford, Raheem Sterling, Chelsea and Spurs helping the NHS and on and on. At the same time our club furloughs staff, is the only club to not refund fans, and this ridiculous circus is played out for 11 weeks now. It's an absolute embarrassment. When will it ever end?

"But piracy in a world where its rampant and the main opposition to it in this takeover's case is KSA's biggest rival smells like pure trash to me" "I hope PIF focus all their efforts at building a team to beat PSG in Europe" You literally wrote those sentences, I wasn't inferring anything Which still has nothing to do with "supporting Saudi Arabia in their battle against Qatar" So what is the PSG comment about then? Clearly a Saudi vs. Qatar reference From a football point of view yeah. Anything else and you're doing exactly what he's saying you're doing, putting words in his mouth. But I don't think it should be about Saudi Arabia trying to be better than Qatar at running a football club for fans. It should be about making Newcastle as good as possible I'm sure it can be about both.

I wouldn't want to call them fickle when their club has been run so terribly. Of all sets of fans, we should empathise with that. Difference is rightly or wrongly a terribly run NUFC were still getting 45k+. Leeds were getting under 20k for many games. As I say you can't compare the two fanbases. We started the Championship season under Hughton with about 36k. If we'd been shite it would have been interesting.

To be fair they've had quite a few seasons of nothingness in the middle of the Championship. Enough to turn anyone off. Even when we won it under Rafa it was brutal.

It's sunny and nice outside, so it should be today.

Fuck I remember refreshing this forum and NewsNow for news of a takeover back in 2009 and barely anything has changed. ha.

Part of me just wants this done to end the years and years of torture around things like this. You can't excited about or enjoy anything without that doubt in the back of your mind.

I've had a bit of a nightmare day trying to get stuff sorted for a change of job so only just getting my tea now. I'll try and put together my own account of events over the next couple of days for you. Don't want to slaver something quick and miss things out. One thing though, it was a different format to the previous forum so I found it harder to be able to get in all the questions I wanted. Not great. As you can see from the mistakes made reply, it probably didn't make much difference had I asked them anyway. Sweep and move on seemed to be the theme.

Basically finish when they've got through all the questions. A lot of people have the same kind of questions though, so you get the answer (or attempt at an answer) in other questions. Still haven't had any sent through. Got until 2nd July for anyone interested.

Some of you may know from previous topics and threads that I am on the Newcastle fans forum. You can read back at my previous posts for my thoughts on it. I need to gather questions and forward them to the club for the next meeting by 2nd July. I had asked for questions on Twitter but didn't get any. As this is my favourite Newcastle forum, I thought I would ask on here for questions. Obviously there are 12 people on the forum and time is limited, so I won't be able to ask everything (4 or 5 questions probably) but I'd like your suggestions for questions to ask the board. Please remember that I am on the forum to represent the Gallowgate end, so any questions with regards to facilities or whatever in other parts of the ground should be directed at those representatives, but for anything else send them to me. My only request is that you send them to my email address as I don't want to trawl through this thread or Twitter for questions. At least if all questions are in my email I can put them in a folder and go through them easily. Please add your name and town and send them to brian.parkin@ gmail.com

To be honest don't know how you can even sit and discuss anything with those f***ers - they fill you with utter s*** and don't give a s*** about any points you make and just make up a load of bull to justify their actions. I would have told them to go and f*** themselves a long time ago to their faces - it's anything but a fans forum. I understand that point of view. However at the forums the answer everything asked of them. I don't agree with most of the bullshit, but there has been some information from it like why they got rid of MYM etc. They aren't fooling me like, and I don't have to agree with them. I could quit, but I'd rather ask questions myself than having to wait on Ryder interviewing them or something.

I was saying similar before about Berwick. Colin Cameron is manager, the fans are on his back a bit after a poor season and I think Berwick Rangers should think about replacing him. However, I'm being deadly serious when I say that I believe him to be a better manager than Carver. If Carver gets the job I won't be paying the best part of £600 for a season ticket next year. Doubt I'd even bother trying to get to individual games.

I signed off the FF letter along with the rest so you can blame me. Ha. My spelling is atrocious.

I'd like to see money raised to pay for billboards around prominent places around town for our message on. The logo with a simple quote below it would do. Not sure how much these things cost and how long they last for though.

Think this is where people might go wrong. The likes of JJ and T&B on Twitter can't just rock up and ask the questions they've had on social media. An agenda is created before the forum with all the questions submitted via the club website. http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/Fans/FansForum/0,,10278~3462537,00.html You can choose your representaive and the question will go via them. Don't know if they get to edit the question for palatability or brevity, but I we'll see if my Q's get through what form they take. You can forward questions any way really. The club didn't set the agenda, they just compiled the list of questions everyone had sent in. The best way to do it is through their online form though because I get it in my emails and I put all the emails in a folder that I can look at when a meeting is coming up. For example, posting questions on here or twitter might get lost with the length of time between meetings. I've only ever had 3 questions sent through the website though. They do send them all though. One of the ones I got was "What is the point in Newcastle United?" The sheet of questions compiled and handed out at the meeting for everyone was word for word what I had sent them. They changed for the minutes though, which is why I sent feedback. They changed it to what I suggested.

To be fair, I think the majority of the forum are the same. I'm not the only one voicing the concerns, it's just that it doesn't come across well in the minutes. The first meeting I went to I didn't say too much, as I was pretty nervous, but felt more confident at this one and felt like it was easy to put across my questions and opinions. To be fair to the board, they answer them and they don't make you feel uncomfortable. If anything, they encourage the debate. I just don't agree with most of their answers and the minutes are obviously watered down which I don't agree with. I assume no-one is allowed to record the meeting (audio or video)? Doubt it. They did mention that a local journalist could be present at the next one to observe, but I don't really see much point in that. Having it recorded would be far better than having a tube like Lee Ryder there.

To be fair, I think the majority of the forum are the same. I'm not the only one voicing the concerns, it's just that it doesn't come across well in the minutes. The first meeting I went to I didn't say too much, as I was pretty nervous, but felt more confident at this one and felt like it was easy to put across my questions and opinions. To be fair to the board, they answer them and they don't make you feel uncomfortable. If anything, they encourage the debate. I just don't agree with most of their answers and the minutes are obviously watered down which I don't agree with.

The draft minutes yesterday were worse, so I forwarded my concerns, but that was only to do with my questions. The whole point of my second question was about January window and if we are prepared to let people go in that month but have no intention of signing anyone, can we not do better work in the summer to make sure we aren't where we are now without barely a defender to call on. The question in yesterdays minutes didn't even mention January. They had also left out the loan signing thing. I asked if they would be prepared to use the loan market to sign players in positions we were short, like we did in the Championship when we got in Fitz Hall and him with the long name from Blackburn. This was so that we could make moves for the present, as opposed to always thinking about players for the future. They said no. If they're going to do a loan deal it will always be with the right to buy and a player they were looking at long term. I totally disagree with that, and I told them, but that was their answer. Short of going over and smashing Charnley's glasses off, theres not much more I can do. The whole conversation isn't really reflected in the minutes and I have seen Taylor&Besty on twitter say similar about one of his questions. On the question about whether we are better now than 2010, I told them that I disagreed that we were as their statement said when Pardew left. Charnley listed a load of players like Smith, Simpson, Perch, Campbell and Best who he said we have better than now. He said we have a stronger, young, and more valuable squad now. I told him I disagreed and pointed to Carroll, Barton and Enrique especially and I said our first 11 is no better. I said Williamson was a Championship player, to which Bobby Moncur jumped in and said "Aye, in your opinion". I said aye, thats my opinion and mentioned that we have the same set of centre backs now that we had in the Championship. At that point we sort of agreed to disagree. The questions throughout took a similar route with disagreement and debate, especially about ambition and cup runs. Another thing Charnley did say was that Pardew didn't help himself with some of the things he said, for example when he said he 'risked' Aarons at one game. He thought Carver had done a better job of speaking to the media. Not sure I agree with that, but then I think both Pardew and Carver are fuckin useless.

out of interest, why the f*** do you bother with the whole charade? It seems quite interesting at the time, and you hope you're going to get something worthwhile out of it. The minutes don't really show how the debate evolves and much of the disagreement. The question I asked at the last one about MYM was answered and I think it was the first time the club had communicated their reasoning. I didn't agree with it though. The minutes don't really show how strongly people are putting their points across and I suppose you hope you can have some influence. For example, when people were talking about the cups, fans were getting quite upset and there was plenty of disagreement with the board. You feel like you've got your point over and you've won the argument, as you would if you're debating with someone at work or where ever. I have my doubts whether what we say actually has any effect on them what so ever, but I suppose I feel like its worth trying. I'm not going to fool myself that what I say is actually making a difference though. It might not, but I certainly think its worth me, and others, putting their views across strongly.

I just put this on Facebook so copied it here. Also, I don't remember anyone in the meeting saying they didn't want a cup run because of the pain of previous Wembley defeats. Minutes from Mondays meeting. Wasn't going to bother sharing them this time as the answers aren't great, but thought I wound considering I was told I embarrassed myself for asking something. I asked about about the difference between the squad from 2010 to now, transfers and selling players without replacements, how we sell ourselves to young players, loan deals, the managerial situation and a question that had been sent to me about a flood. I also argued with them about cups, ambition and the club drifting along. There was loads of opinion back and forward. I said players like Barton, Enrique and Carroll from 2010 were better than some of the players we have now and disagreed with the board that we are stronger now than then. I also said Williamson was Championship standard. They didn't agree, but they're not gonna put that in the minutes. There was plenty discussion back and forward and they probably spent about 20 minutes answering my questions and the debate around them. That doesn't come across in the minutes. I didn't agree with most of what they said, but what can you do. They've watered it down and it looks more like straight answers to straight questions when there was far more debate, criticism and disagreement than the minutes suggest. My flood question lasted about 20 seconds at the end of my questions, because you can forward stuff on to the guy who sorts the ground maintenance. Personally, I'm not really that arsed, but someone sent it so I asked it. It didn't take up the place of any other question or take time up when something else could have been asked. I only got 3 questions sent to me an asked them all. If anyone wants a question asked next time, just send me them.