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I don't think any club that's relegated from the Premiership after years of being Premiership regulars is ever really in a stable condition. They inevitable lose lots of players, cut costs and rebuild. Exactly what we'd do, if anything it could actually be the catalyst to stabalise us, though obviously I'd prefer to keep trying to do that in the Premiership

I was talking more about staying up after promotion rather then coming straight back up. Though personally I think we'd still be way ahead of the likes of West Brom and Ipswich ect when it comes to attracting players. What I really am wondering about most is why do you think we'd be "more like Leeds or Southampton than West Ham or Blackburn". What do the likes of West Ham or Blackburn have that this club doesn't?

Why would he have to drop a decent player? I assume he means relatively decent

I honestly didn't believe all the crap about how stupid and impatient some of our fans were. I thought everyone could see that Keegans first several games, overall, were an impossible job. I thought that people would write those games off and give him a chance. Granted its a small minority who aren't, but what happens if we lose to Blackburn and Liverpool?, how many will jump on the bandwagon then? I just can't believe some of the s*** I'm reading, and hearing from some of the so called fans of this club, impatient, unrealistic, petulant idiots.

There are reasonable critisisms and then there are silly overzealous ones, I don't recall to many reasonable critisisms being jumped on as if it equates to wanting Keegan out.

Just a question, should we play those match with a bit of prudence and try to sneak a point or should we play "attacking football" and everyone knows got hammered was the only result? We haven't played all out attack, we just haven't played all out defence either. The way I see it we'd be beaten either way.

Ramos doing well over a period of 29 games with a team that finished 5th the season before compared to Keegan not doing well over a period of 6 games (4 against the top 5) with a team that finished 13th the season before is proof of something?.. I hope you're not in the police force.. I'd fear for the innocent if you were.

I never wanted him back. And tbf we have been pummeled 4 times since he arrived. Absolutely raped. No we haven't we weren't pummeled in the first game against Arsenal, also while we were beaten quite easily in the second we were hardly raped, and this is away twice to the top team in the league. Away to Villa, who are now 4th, we were pummeled in the end, Manure, second best in the league also pummeled us. What sort of chance is that to give a manager before jumping on his back with histerical ramblings about how he's useless at everything? Its complete bollocks, when Keegan arrived we had an extremely bad team that's been trained for the past 8 months to boot the ball as high and long as possible, they're confidence was lower then a Smoggy prostitute. Yet apparently some people here expected the same team to go out, play Football, and not get beaten comfortably by 4 of the top 4-5 sides in the league in Keegans first 6 games! No manager in the world could achieve that you fucking maniacs!

Six games, three against Arsenal and Manure and one against fifth place Villa and some of you are at it already with "Keegans useless, the worlds over".. you make me f****** sick you bunch of pointless whiners! (not all of you obviously, just the whiners)

Yeah I'm sure the likes of Ferdinand really considered that the pinnacle of there careers

That shouldn't matter, even if true. What he does for 90 minutes of a game is the only thing that should matter. i didnt mean t*** as in a difficult person to get on with a meant a t*** as in a lazy fucker in training etc, thus no deserving to play. it is very strange that even the bloke who pid £6.5m for him wouldnt play him. a bit like souey with luque I agree its strange and there must be some reason behind it, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it could be.. He's played well every time he's been in the team. Luque's situation is hardly that similar. For whatever reason Luque didn't play well in the large majority of games he played. Enrique on the other hand has looked good in a position where we have nobody else to play (Lets face it N'Zogbia is a liability there and Carr is so out of his depth its amazing).

He's looked good every time he's played (unlike Luque), what the fuck is going on??

Getting relegated would finish us. Worked for Blackburn. There was no such thing as inflation and 'the top four' then, though. Not to such a scale as it is now, anyway. Ipswich, Derby, Leicester West Ham, West Brom, Sunderland Leicester, Leeds, Wolves Crystal Palace, Norwich, Southampton Birmingham, West Brom, Sunderland That's the last few seasons' relegated teams. If we were to get relegated, we'd be no different. We'd be fodder, just like them lot. Some have collapsed entirely, two or three have come back in and gone straight back down again (and will continue to do so), there's only one there who have come back and done something (not a lot in realisty), and that's West Ham. Under Bobby, we were on the very brink. Even under Souness, crazily - we were arguably even closer to winning something - we could have gone on to win that UEFA Cup with a bit more luck; we weren't that far away. Since then we've deteriorated but never in any real long-term threat, until this season. If we were to go down we'd more than likely end up like Leeds or Southampton than West Ham or Blackburn, imo. You don't see any major difference between this club and all the others you mentioned?.. What do you think gives a team the best chance of staying in the Premier League when they come up?, what's kept West Ham up and moved them on?.. Money, do you think our attendances would dwindle to the likes of the teams you mentioned if we went down and came back up?

Because he's a psychic in his spare time??

that fuckers on 80k? That parts bollocks mate. We might be stupid, but offering a lazy fat 32 year old a three year £80,000 a week contract is mind boggling stupidity. Its a two year contract (one year left now). Not sure about the money but at the time it was supposed to be anything from £50-60,000.

We lost to Reading when we weren't under pressure, and were lucky as hell against Fulham. I wouldn't take wins against either as nailed on given our total lack of heart. No we weren't under pressure in those games, we were just completely playing into Readings hands with absolutely mental "tactics" instead, plus we were away from home.

Get a grip man. Newcastle won't get relegated. There are too many sides between us and we will pick up 10 points at least.

We have 18 points from the 14 games Martins has started this season and only 10 points from the 13 he hasn't started.. 1.28 points per game with Martins and 0.76 per game without him.

Of course we're playing the ball on the ground more, that's obvious IMO. That doesn't mean we're starting every move from the back on the ground. But what we are doing is actually passing the ball on the ground when we have it in midfield. Look at the Villa game, absolutely s*** second half, but in the first we passed the ball very well at times. I remember games under Allardyce when I could have counted the amount of passes on the ground on one hand.

Just trying to point out that he certainly wasn't the only one who was poor today, and he certainly wasn't the worst. But I guess you knew that really. You mean you were trying to shift some of the criticism on to other players. Still, I'm sure John Terry was spinning around like a dull c*** when he was 22. Spot on, thats exactly what I was doing and is my point entirely. Others were worse than Taylor. No, they weren't..

We're getting stuffed every time we play a team like Arsenal or Manure, or Villa away.. we won't be playing them every week though so stop the panicking.. As for Boro, you don't know what would have happened given more time, also did you forget that we had a perfectly good goal ruled out that would have given us the win?

are you crazy? allardyce took a team ranked at 14th, no direction, in turmoil, injury ridden, to a team that wasnt going to get relegated, sorted out the injuries, and gave us the feeling of stability inside the club. You've got to be taking the piss?..

Not when you have a defender turning his back on a player like Ronaldo as he drives into the area onto a simple pass to score. Or a defender running accross a forward and flayling his legs hopelessly at the ball when he's the last man... Then you blame the defender.. in this case the same defender both times, Forest f****** Gump himself.. Of course you should defend and attack as a team as much as possible, but when you have players who make pathetic individual errors every week it certainly doesn't help.

We've got a far better chance now then if Allardyce had stayed, that's for f****** sure! Spurs were a shambles when we played them under that fat c***, as were Bolton.. Expecting too much?