Northern Monkey

I don't get it. Luque hasn't tried. He shoudl be dragged through Newcastle behind a bin wagon.

 

Duff has been f****** gash, but still better than Luque.

 

How?

Because both have been shite, but at least Duff has tried. Thats better, in my book, that Luque, who has not. End product is pretty similar, but if you're guaranteed failure, it might as well be active/mobile failure. I think thats why some people rate Dyer.

But back to the point, Roeder just opens his mouth and any old rubbish falls out. At least Souness had the balls to look smug about it, the twat.

Savage

Gerrard

Well done Albert, seize that opportunity!!!!

 

Definetely an opportunity missed. If only he had taken being played in the reserves on the chin, scored two spectacular goals and won us the game - Roeder would have been bound to give him chance then!

Would he fuck, thank god. But at least he would have given his fanboys ONE piece of evidence that he wasn't a complete and utter shithouse.

Well done Albert, seize that opportunity!!!!

my opinion is in part due to our "big club" mentality.   it's all well and good to think/believe we are (and for the record, i think we are), but on the pitch smaller clubs do a number on us with alarming consistency.  we rise to the occasion when we play one of our "peer" teams, Man utd, l'pool etc. which shows we can play with the big boys, but we always seem to play down to the level of teams that on paper are our inferior.  we need to either: lose the big club mentality and adopt a small club's never say die, 100% at all times attitude for every opponent, OR, play every game with the clinical, ruthless, cold-hearted efficiency of a true big club.

I like this post a lot.  Supporters (at least on here) seem to think that just because its NUFC and a few years back we were a top side, we still are one, or should be preforming like one.  After robson's exit, and souness' mess, it will take some time to get back to where the club should be and people really need to be more patient.

 

The one slight flaw with that is unfortunately we can't snap our fingers and develop/lose big club mentalities/100% attitudes. We need a GOOD manager to help us as fans and the players to do that.

Well, we're only a good manager and 6 or 7 good players away from that, then.

Kieron Dyer

 

AGREED !!!

 

How can a player that no-one rates be overrated ?

 

Loads of people rate him.

 

There are even people on here who think he is international class!!!!

 

He plays for England.

And? I said international class, not "gets picked by two fucking terrible mamagers".

N'zogbia was rubbish as he has been all season. I don't understand this " he needs more games " attitude.  Is that to get back to the level of incompetence that he showed from August to December before he got injured?

You must hate Bramble, then.

Given - 6 - Neither here nor there.

Solano - 5 - Position, Nolberto, position.

Taylor - 6 - Wasted. Best CB we have, you cretin Roeder.

Onyewu - 5 - Not too bad, nowt special.

Bramble - 6 - Lost his way (and man) a couple of times, but not too bad.

Milner - 6 - Needs to improve his crossing. Should have been left on to aim for Le Sib.

N'Zogbia - 4  You could see he was having the right ideas, but rusty as fuck.

Parker - 6 - Not a bad performance in a terrible game.

Butt - 7 - Played well, keep it up, Ginge.

Martins - 5 - Fast enough to not need to be offside so much. Needs to think more. Inconsistent.

Dyer - 5 - Seemed to disappear for long periods. No real impact.

Sibierski - 5 - He is what he is - a player who was a decent stop gap, but very very limited.

Roeder - 4 - We didn't lose, bit come on!!! Beasts at home, and that was fucking gash.

Kieron Dyer

 

AGREED !!!

 

How can a player that no-one rates be overrated ?

Loads of people rate him.

There are even people on here who think he is international class!!!!

Steven Taylor is NOT a full back.  He can fill in adequately at right back (if you have a team of players who can perform adequately in their position, you settle for mid-table, which seems to be where we're heading), and he's pretty poor at left back.  I would also dispute whether Stephen Carr can play at right back.

Neither Carr (due to being an absolute travesty) nor Taylor (due to being our best CB) should be at right back. Solano can do A job, but not a great one. But people like Hindu will accept mediocrity.....no left backs good enough??? WE DON'T HAVE A LEFT BACK. NOT ONE WHO IS WORTHY OF PULLING EVEN A FUCKING TRAINING TOP ON.

For fucks sake. People will make up anything to defend the indefensible, same as some cretins did about Souness - simple fact is, Roeder has FAILED to give us the basics - premiership quality players to start a game. Nothingh to do with injuries, thats just failure.

Again though its still all risk, he opted agianst Sol and yeah it turned out he has been great for Pompey but Roeder was not willing to risk it going bad for us if we had signed him, I can't slate him for that.

I was gutted over our lack of signings as much as eceryone else but Roeder is not the one that seals the deals!

But he IS the one who says what he wants. He FAILED to get the players we needed, and that is HIS fault.

Mind, if we had signed Campbell, he'd have been shit, because our manager is shite. He's better of with a decent (albiet bent-to-fuck) manager.

Would be a very good signing, especially for nothing. Very quick and techniqually skilled. more importantly a very good defender

You haven't actually seen him play much, have you? Unless almost everyone else who ever has is lying.

He lives off the fact his brother's one of the worlds best, and always has.

 

Not a chance would I take him.

Partially true. He's top class for entire games sometimes. And a complete liability for sections of others.

Agree about Anton though. He's not good enough to have the attitude he does to his job. Christ knows, Bramble is NOWHERE NEAR good enough, but there's no point swapping him for a wronger-faced, equally useless player with a marginally less odd christian name.

'kin loads.

Because by your definition, wanks like Ameobi, Dyer, Shambles, Emre etc, must be right up there on your hit list, to differing degrees.

I don't want to sound apologetic to Luque, but

 

One has been poor without trying, the other has been poor despite trying hard (with all due respect to Duff)

 

Who has got more potential Mr Roeder?

I don't get it. Luque hasn't tried. He shoudl be dragged through Newcastle behind a bin wagon.

Duff has been fucking gash, but still better than Luque.

It has to be Wayne Rooney without a shadow of a doubt. The lad has potential, but has a got a long way to go before he starts fulfilling it. Yes, he oddly flashes his so called "class", but how often, maybe ever dozen games.

 

At the best of time he looks very average, but we constantly hear he's the future of English football from the frenzied media. If this is anywhere near the truth Lord help the nation because we won't be winning much for a very long time.

Agree.

 

He's basically a well built lad who compared to other English talent is talented, but compared to foreign talent not so much.

 

For all his supposed talent he's awful at beating players from a standing position, if he isn't just barging them out of the way.

How many over-rated player do you think WE have, by that definition?

Last thing we need.

Why don't we sign Pennant, re-sign Jeenarse, and fucking Jody Morris as well?

I don't see that anyone could have done much better than Roeder. He didn't inherit a great side, he hasn't been given mountains of cash to spend, and we've had a lot of bad luck with injuries. Mid-table is as much as we could expect.

 

....and not talking a load of s****.

 

What do you mean?  We're signing Gareth Bale you know!

Ha ha! And if we did, he'd probably put him in goal.

I only remember Titus Bramble having one chance last season in the Premiership, a volley against Chelsea which he put in the back of the net.

 

Best finisher ever tbh.

 

Constant use of sarcasm is tedious.

Not as tedious as the constant use of Bramble, trust me.

As if Roeder is capable of getting the best out of Duff!

He's fucking clueless, and the more he speaks, the more its obvious.

people will only get behind a decent manager.  roeder is not decent by any definition of the word.

 

A couple of points that would counter your argument:

 

- We're 11th in the league, six points of 6th, in no danger of relegation, and for the most part of this season we've had between 10 and 16 first team players injured.

- His signings have been good. Martins = Class, Duff = Underperforming but still good, Sibi = Decent back up, Gooch = First few games have been very good considering he's come into a far superior league. Bernard = Fair enough.

- You could also argue that our squad would never have been good enough to get near the UEFA places anyway, and it's our expectations that are marginally too high.

 

 

 

hahahaahahahahahahahahahaahah!!!!!!!!! Brilliant. That was genius.

 

Which part exactly do you disagree with?

His signings have been good. That part.

Bernard was a disaster (and always destined to be), he wasted £5m on a player who not only has been shite, but who plays in a position that shoudl have been WAY down our list.

He is forced to play a winger (not even a wing BACK) as a right back, our best CB as a left back, and a Championship player as our only permanent-ly contracted CB .

Crouch, or Savage.

I don't see that anyone could have done much better than Roeder. He didn't inherit a great side, he hasn't been given mountains of cash to spend, and we've had a lot of bad luck with injuries. Mid-table is as much as we could expect.

He could have done better by not wasting the money he DID have, by not being tacticaly inept, and not talking a load of shite.

people will only get behind a decent manager.  roeder is not decent by any definition of the word.

 

A couple of points that would counter your argument:

 

- We're 11th in the league, six points of 6th, in no danger of relegation, and for the most part of this season we've had between 10 and 16 first team players injured.

- His signings have been good. Martins = Class, Duff = Underperforming but still good, Sibi = Decent back up, Gooch = First few games have been very good considering he's come into a far superior league. Bernard = Fair enough.

- You could also argue that our squad would never have been good enough to get near the UEFA places anyway, and it's our expectations that are marginally too high.

 

 

hahahaahahahahahahahahahaahah!!!!!!!!! Brilliant. That was genius.

Living out of Toon now this is a big assumption but from what I do see of NUFC these days, what I hear from mates still there and what I read here it seems that despondancy & apathy reign at SJP; indeed hope has largely passed us by going in the other direction. 

 

Watching games has become a drain, almost a chore at times, due to a number of factors so my question is this - what would it take to get the life back into supporting NUFC?

(By the way I hate Spurs but I watched them play yesterday and couldn't help but notice that for two "similar" clubs the gulf in style of play and flair was frightening when contrasted to our game vs "Boro)

 

Some options we hear repeatedly, none of which are impossible, are:

 

Sacking the board?

A takeover?

A good run at the start of next season?

A spending spree bringing in flair players to add to the squad we already have?

A spending spree on defenders and midfielders?

A new manager?

Getting shot of Luque

Alan Shearer?

A cup run?

Relegation?

 

I have my own thoughts but I just wondered what the consensus was?  Or if there is one...

 

 

What we need: (on no particular order)

1. New blood in the boardroom

2. A capable manager

3. Top-7 Premiership quality players

4. Getting rid of those who don't match (3) - ie. Baba, Sib, Shambles, Carr, Shola etc

5. A structured plan identifying where the club aims to be (on and off the pitch), and how we will get there.