Northern Monkey

 

 

Not hard, in fairness.

 

Not sure we'll be offering much Euopean football the season after - we need some serious players to even get 7th, if you look at our "squad".

 

I want 3 first team players as well as squad players, I don't want to see Babayaro as first choice and I don't want Ramage as first choice, I think if we get a new left back, centre half and creative midfielder/forward then we're laughing all the way to top 6.  I really think that if we get the three sorted that I've mentioned and squad players in as cover then we'll do well.

 

Given

Nobby (get younger player in to learn and replace Nobby)

Another (quality left back)

Taylor

Another (quality centre half with a good head and a big mouth)

Barton

Milner

Another (creative player)

Viduka

Owen

Nzogbia (new manager/new start, he clearly wasn't playing for Roeder)

Is that midfield not going to get us a raping on a regular basis? Not much support for the back four.

Problem is, we don't have cover for any of those, and they aren;t going to stay fit all season.

Better than any winger we currently have at the club tbh.

Does a fanstastic dive as well. Beautiful.

Although i don't think he's better than Milner, imho.

If The Bitters get Ramos, after we took the easy option, it'd be a kick in the nads.

If we're aiming to play the 4-3-3 system then I'd be all for getting him in and selling Duff. Provided we've enough money after strengthening other positions.

 

He's gotten lost at Chelsea really, people forget how good he was at Man City I think. He'd be a vast upgrade on Dyer and Duff out wide.

Better than Dyer or Duff on the left? So is my great gran, and she's been dead for 16 years.

Expectations fo rnext season - 8th or 9th, if we get a few more players in, and the expected ones leave.

I felt that Allardyce was a good decision by Shepherd, I'm not sure he would be the right choice now that our situation has changed but I'm still more than happy to support him as he's the best we've had since Sir Bobby, my reservations are about his ability to spend money, nobody can really question his ability to get the best out of free transfers or cheap players and I'm slightly concerned about the Quest stuff still being dragged up.

 

Im still more than happy to see him given a chance as long as he takes us forwards and tries to build the club from top to bottom.

 

I'd like to see 3 more first team players signed before the season kicks off, I want two defenders and somebody to link with the forwards, somebody who can change a game with one pass, a Tevez who I don't expect to get but would love to see here.  We don't have Eorope to offer big players but we should be able to offer Europe the season after.

Not hard, in fairness.

Not sure we'll be offering much Euopean football the season after - we need some serious players to even get 7th, if you look at our "squad".

Birmingham, Derby and Wigan, for me.

Unless all the promised cash doesn't materialise, the mackems will be nowhere near the bottom.

If it wasn't for the fact that the alternative is a piling heap of donkey shite, i'd be pelased that Fat Arse might not be here for the start of the season.

 

Yeah what the hell do we want with a striker who can score and set up goals for, don't need that sort of shit here!

 

Well done, nice one. Very good, that, nice work.

 

Thanks

 

You're more than welcome. Anything that illustrates that level of blind confidence and optimism, whilst attempting sarcasm, should be rewarded.

 

I wouldn't say its blind confidence, its not like he is Sibierski and we are hoping he suddenly turns into a good player, he already is one.

 

He did pretty good last season. He hasn't always shown that level of ability/drive.

 

He was excellent last season but has also shown he has a lot of ability.

He has also in the past shown to be a lumping, lazy wanker.

But we forget all of that and only focus on the positives, don't we.

We'll see, i suppose.

 

What do you think?

 

 

That he's over-rated, and as likely to do fuck all as score loads of goals.

We should do this on the forum for the "ITK's" would be funny to see their percentages

 

"Roeder will definately be here at the start of next season"

 

or just the opinions as fact?

 

"FAMV will score loads of goals for NUFC" type thing?

 

I was thinking more "Baines will be here by July 1st", "Mancini has been looking at houses in Newcastle", "Hitzfeld has been looking around the training ground" type facts.

Ah, right. My first one stands then. Comedy Gold from Parky. His 4th place challenge comment would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

If it wasn't for the fact that the alternative is a piling heap of donkey shite, i'd be pelased that Fat Arse might not be here for the start of the season.

 

Yeah what the hell do we want with a striker who can score and set up goals for, don't need that sort of shit here!

 

Well done, nice one. Very good, that, nice work.

 

Thanks

 

You're more than welcome. Anything that illustrates that level of blind confidence and optimism, whilst attempting sarcasm, should be rewarded.

 

I wouldn't say its blind confidence, its not like he is Sibierski and we are hoping he suddenly turns into a good player, he already is one.

He did pretty good last season. He hasn't always shown that level of ability/drive.

If it wasn't for the fact that the alternative is a piling heap of donkey shite, i'd be pelased that Fat Arse might not be here for the start of the season.

 

Yeah what the hell do we want with a striker who can score and set up goals for, don't need that sort of shit here!

 

Well done, nice one. Very good, that, nice work.

 

Thanks

You're more than welcome. Anything that illustrates that level of blind confidence and optimism, whilst attempting sarcasm, should be rewarded.

We should do this on the forum for the "ITK's" would be funny to see their percentages

"Roeder will definately be here at the start of next season"

or just the opinions as fact?

"FAMV will score loads of goals for NUFC" type thing?

If it wasn't for the fact that the alternative is a piling heap of donkey shite, i'd be pelased that Fat Arse might not be here for the start of the season.

 

Yeah what the hell do we want with a striker who can score and set up goals for, don't need that sort of shit here!

Well done, nice one. Very good, that, nice work.

If it gets some of the dirt out of football, i hope the whole thing unearths any badness, regardless of which players/managers/clubs it affects.

I still have question marks about Sam being Ashley's choice to manager us, a bad or even average first season and I am pretty sure Ashley will get rid.

It is what it is - if thats what happens, we have to trust the owner to bring the right person in.

Personally, i agree about FHSA not being first choice - he's done nowt to suggest that he'd be an obvious choice, were he not already in post.

If he doesn't finish 7th, he's failed. Long-term plan or no long-term plan.

 

I hope your joking.

 

Why? We're way behind the top 4, we're behind Spurs & Everton but with 3 signings in the areas we're very weak, we can bridge that gap. We're in the group with Bolton, Blackburn, Villa, etc. at the minute. Allardyce alone imo will add 10 points to our tally (no way would we have lost some of those sh*te home games last season with him in charge), so as we stand, I'm considering us as a 50-55 points a season team. With more signings, that should become 60-65.

 

But if you think if he doesnt finish at least 7th he's failed then your an idiot. After everything that has gone on at this club, and after the past two seasons we have just had, a bit of stability and signs of improvement will be a great start. You cant go from a rotten club playing terrible football to finishing in the top 6-7 within 1 close season. Be realistic man!

 

It was only a year ago a season combined with Souness & Roeder's management took us to 7th. Last year, Roeder was shocking.

 

I'll ask you this, would we have finished where we did last season had Allardyce been in charge?

 

Your question is totally irrelavant. We finsihed 7th under Roeder after Souness was bootedand the whole club got a temporary lift. There was no pressure on Roeder at the time to get results which also helped. You honestly think we started playing amazing football when Souness left and Roeder took over? No we didnt, there was a slight improvement and thats it. We got some good results and some lucky ones.

 

Since SBR left the football has been nothing short of horrible for 90% of the games. Boring, Boring football, with the occasional canny game thrown in. This club is on the up, but at theminute, as it stands, there still a shit load of work to be done, and its people like you are a cancer to the club, who after 1 season, Sam doesnt finifh in top 7 and you say he has failed. How can this club ever be a success when people are already talking about failure?

What we talk about here has fuck all to do with whether or not the team will do well - ignorance of that is fucking laughable.

With Wenger and Arsenal not too far from parting, Fergie on his final furlong and the future of Rafa and Mourinho far from certain regardless of how well they do, with Rafa always likely to head back home at some stage and Jose being Jose a manager who could get just about any job in the world, and Chelsea likewise regarding a new manager, there is an opening for a club to gatecrash that pile and maybe end out on top. Could that be us under Ashley and Big Sam, a manager who I believe to be the 5th best in the country and good enough (if not yet experienced) to challenge the top top managers as one himself?

 

Your thoughts please.

 

PS I'm hoping to get some good material for an uber article I'm planning on this very issue so delve deep into the debate and give me some inspiration

 

Ta

Firstly, the 5th best thing is very arguable.

Secondly, if he's THAT good, more likely FHSA will be snapped up by one of them, rather than lead us to the promised land. 

My thoughts is that's a horrific 1st sentence to read!

 

 

Less of a sentence, more of a particularly painful type of linguistic torture. tbh.

We'll see, i suppose.

He's not very tall, is he?

Dwarfism is not a joking matter, my friend.

Except if you dress them like butlers and make them try to drive a Normal's car, obviously.

If it wasn't for the fact that the alternative is a piling heap of donkey shite, i'd be pelased that Fat Arse might not be here for the start of the season.

Not that player at that price, at this point in time.

WE shoudl be owed money by HIM.

Hope emre will stay, I believe he will become better.

 

Emre will prove his class once the clubs gets settled. been un unholy mess since he came here.

We have to keep him

So its the clubs fault that he goes missing in games, has some woeful deadball moments, and runs around a bit getting nowt done till he gets bored?