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Shit! Did you see that?! He must have traction engines for feet!

Eh? I'm seriously puzzled by why I'm included in this f****** list. I've done nowt in recent times other than post my view on the football, despite being constantly hassled by the usual morons because they don't agree with me. I assume you're listing people you believe spoil threads. Well if you're going to name names fella, where the f*** is that obnoxious chimp guy and a whole host of others? And don't quote the "et al" s**** either. There are some people on here who never post a f****** thing that is football related, choosing instead to post personal s**** all over the show. There's more than one doing it and you know the people I mean. I haven't thrown a thread off track for ages, like there are a few members I haven't responded to in ages despite their best efforts. Tickled me anyway. And no, I don't mean my slightly embarassing first attempt at using those quotes, for those of you who noticed. Do you understand the difference between "recent times" and "present time?" Yes thanks. Still amused me a bit. Besides, I read it a few days late, so it was recent times for me

Eh? I'm seriously puzzled by why I'm included in this f****** list. I've done nowt in recent times other than post my view on the football, despite being constantly hassled by the usual morons because they don't agree with me. I assume you're listing people you believe spoil threads. Well if you're going to name names fella, where the f*** is that obnoxious chimp guy and a whole host of others? And don't quote the "et al" s**** either. There are some people on here who never post a f****** thing that is football related, choosing instead to post personal s**** all over the show. There's more than one doing it and you know the people I mean. I haven't thrown a thread off track for ages, like there are a few members I haven't responded to in ages despite their best efforts. Tickled me anyway. And no, I don't mean my slightly embarassing first attempt at using those quotes, for those of you who noticed.

Seems a decent article in the main, don't really know what the writers obvious dislike of Roeder meant he had to lead on to having a bit of a dig at the club though, didn't really think it was particularly relevant. Maybe the article wasn't long enough without it....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A20812862 Newcastle can chalk off another year without a trophy after their wretched, spineless Uefa Cup exit against AZ Alkmaar. Glenn Roeder's desperately negative and naive game-plan was a cast-iron guarantee that it would be 38 years and counting since the distant black and white memories of the Inter Cities Fairs Cup win against Újpest Dózsa. Newcastle supporters have not been short on suffering, and the alarm bells signalling another inevitable disappointment must have been ringing when Roeder proclaimed before the game that a goalless draw would do his side nicely. And once the game started, their worst fears were confirmed. Roeder, with a two-goal cushion, sent Newcastle to their demise. Roeder is only too keen to paint himself as a shrewd, street-smart tactician when Newcastle win, but he should have known Alkmaar, under the vastly superior coaching of Louis van Gaal, do not do goalless draws. So timid Newcastle sat back and almost accepted their fate like frightened men, hoping to scrape a goal or somehow hang on against a side that looked full of goals and attacking intent. Roeder shifted some of the blame on to the referee and a lot of the blame on to his defenders. Strangely enough, not too much of the blame appeared to land at his door. Sorry Glenn, this one rotted from the top down and you must take your share as well. True enough, Newcastle were without Michael Owen, as they have been for virtually 15 months, but does one serious injury have such a debilitating effect? Roeder talks of bringing in defenders, but he has had plenty of time to do that and this is a classic case of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. And why was James Milner, a positive influence and arguably Newcastle's best player this season, left on the bench when Roeder surely knew a goal would pile almost insurmoutable pressure on Alkmaar? Even Emre was thrown into the fray before him, a move that was hardly a raging success. What would a warrior like Alan Shearer have made of Newcastle's pathetic approach in Holland, seemingly stripped of positive intent and cowering their way out of the cup? Newcastle play in a big city with big support, but the question remains about whether they are a big club. They have certainly acted like a big club. And chairman Freddy Shepherd - for all the criticism - could never be accused of not thinking big in the transfer marker. The big signings have arrived on a regular basis, namely superstar captures like Shearer and Owen, but trophies have the same effect on Newcastle as kryptonite did on Superman. Newcastle will only be a truly big club when they have a recent history to speak of and trophies to parade. Big clubs win silverware on a much more regular basis than Newcastle. Not every year maybe, but they tend to trouble the trophy room cleaners rather more than once every 40 years. The fans will continue to turn up, as they invariably do. But they can no longer rely on boasting about a history no-one can actually remember, the amount of supporters who turn out to greet new signings, or the year they threw the Premiership away because Kevin Keegan started pointing and shouting live on telly. Newcastle United is currently a middle of the road club that has not won a trophy for 38 years. These are the facts. And now questions will be asked about whether Roeder is the man who can actually ends this period in the wilderness. On the evidence of what was little more than a surrender against Alkmaar, that is a question that needs to be pondered very seriously. Some decent points about Glenda I reckon, the talk of being a 'big' club will no doubt get some people going.

What sort of idiot would pick Oba ahead of Rooney?!

Martins + Chopra = One good player and one not good enough.

In a bad mood tonight HTL?

Has there ever been a more pointless post. ffs. unfortunatly, probably hundreds. I doubt it. Unless you count in boo boo. You clearly have been wise enough to avoid the Luque thread for a while....

"Shoes off" or "Pogo".

Isn't the sourcing of the money for the prize funds in this competition somewhat controversial?

What was the attendance in the end? Heard someone say 28, but didn't know if that was right or not, expected there to be more than that.

As a DCM, case closed. Move him back there and he'll work well again. I've never seen a Newcastle midfield more deviod of creativity and class than when Parker was playing DCM under Souness. Aye, cos that was Parker's fault. Nowt to do with Amdy Faye like . . . I assume you feel the creativity and class our midfield showed last night was DESPITE Parker . . . Not in the slightest, and that's nothing to do with what I said. I think he's an OK player, but people claiming he played well under Souness must remember that we were utter wank under him - when a midfield's playing that badly it has to be down to two players. And if you remember, he played alongside Emre at least as much as Faye that season.

The European way means that Bramble plays better as well. It amazes me that foreign teams rarely if ever realise it would be a good idea to close him down all the time, and panic him into a trademark error.

As a DCM, case closed. Move him back there and he'll work well again. I've never seen a Newcastle midfield more deviod of creativity and class than when Parker was playing DCM under Souness.

Parker played better than he has of late last night in my opinion, but I still think Butt was the better of the two. Having said that, Parkers challenge just after the penalty but before the goal was unbelievable.

Pretty much agree with NM's ratings. Don't think Milner did much when he came on mind, although Emre looked lively-ish.

I haven't read the thread, but I dread to think how "What would it take to get the spark back?" got to the board...

For anyone who doesn't quite understand, the joke here is that 'Jonny2J' has typed a few things he doesn't mean, and then waited to see what other people say about that. Brilliant!

Milner's main strength is effort. He has good close control, and can beat a man, but not with pace. He produces the odd good cross but they're mostly very poor, and his shooting used to be shocking but seems to be coming on. He's a decent player but tbh I don't think he has enough assets to ever be a top 6 player. I hope he proves me wrong like, but I just can't see it. I think the main reason he's been one of our players of the season so far is down to a lack of real competition.

He'd be our best midfielder by so, so far. He'll never sign, but would be excellent for us.

Oh Jonny2J, you're so funny.

Unfortunate. France is rubbish, so it seems.

My favourite thing about this thread is that for his top 10 'unsung heros' of the premiership, HTT has managed to pick 10 very highly rated players, whose contributions rarely go unnoticed.

I can understand that, but there's no downside to him returning from injury at this moment in time. He's not good enough, but he'll still be the second best in his position, so he might as well be fit for the rest of the season as far as I'm concerned.