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Similar to NJS's criticism of Jonas in the match thread...with so many bad players in our squad, I find it weird how people are concerned about two of our better players in their respective positions. Left back and left wing are the least of our problems IMO, although it would be nice to have some back up for Enrique.

Colo had a very good game I thought. I would expect more off a £10 million defender. His distribution was abysmal, especially his passing. Nothing special but nothing crap, as some people on here will let you believe! That would make sense if he hadn't passed the ball very well today. Its his lack of pace that I fear most, he gets turned way way to easy and is not quick enough to make up the lost ground, I am not writing him off but when you look at our CB pairing Bassong looks like the £10mill player. Bassong looks the better player, but they work well together IMO.

Colo had a very good game I thought. I would expect more off a £10 million defender. His distribution was abysmal, especially his passing. Nothing special but nothing crap, as some people on here will let you believe! That would make sense if he hadn't passed the ball very well today.

Speaking of the need to make a post-Kinnear appointment, the unimaginative decision to stick with the team which started against WBA suggests the decision needs to be taken sooner rather than later. Hughton effectively turned Jonas' one match suspension into a two match one with his bone-headed team selection today. Luckily Everton were ravaged by injury otherwise we could have paid dearly. A more aggressive manager would have seen they were weakened and would have went for the jugular when we had players like Martins, Jonas and Viduka available for selection.

Colo had a very good game I thought.

Duff is very much on my "should never play for us again" list. I would have Guttierez in the team - my point was just that I felt his chance was an excellent one which I'd expect a good player (which I think he is) to do better and I don't understand why people are "letting him off" so easily. I think people realise he's not good enough in final product, he's just better than anything else we've got as you yourself acknowledge.

He panicked. He's not a striker or even a goalscoring midfielder, so I'm not that bothered. Should have done better but these things happen. How much do we play players a week for them to panic and come nowhere near hitting the target. Fuck me if we can't get frustrated or angry about player's basic failures we might as well give up. When you put it like that, Jonas is nowhere near good enough for us. We really should have someone like Ryan Giggs or David Villa in that role. I played pub football in a local league - probably about 56 levels below the PREMIER LEAGUE (© Spence) - from such a gulf I expect professionals to be able to hit the target with shots most of the time and maybe pass to their team mates occasionally compared to my shitness. The fact that I have to repeatedly comment on the fact that we (and other teams) have players who cannot do that on a consistent basis drives me mental. There is no excuse for basic ineptitude. Of course they have better defenders against them and may try more outrageous things but the basics should be a given and I'm sick of people settling for it. Guttierez looks a decent player to me - not the superstar some clam but a good player at our level with a reasonable level of talent. However he need to start putting it to good use which means crosses, final passes and goals - am I really expecting too much? What is your point? Would you prefer to start Duff up front, that seems to be the other option which is the one Hughton took? Do you think Duff offers more?

i doubt he'd got to citeh as i'm not that sure hughes is picking the team either. not likely to come here though either. I think he'll end up at City tbh. He'll command a lot more respect than Hughes from the owners, and with his track record they'll probably give him a free hand for a while at least.

He panicked. He's not a striker or even a goalscoring midfielder, so I'm not that bothered. Should have done better but these things happen. How much do we play players a week for them to panic and come nowhere near hitting the target. Fuck me if we can't get frustrated or angry about player's basic failures we might as well give up. When you put it like that, Jonas is nowhere near good enough for us. We really should have someone like Ryan Giggs or David Villa in that role.

Why is everyone ignoring Guttierez' shocking miss? Is it because he is awesome? Probably because it wasn't that shocking. He should have hit the target but the angle wasn't great in any case. If he was half as good as people on here think he is, it was an open goal. Do you think Robert would have scored? - I do. What are you on about? A player in the EPL through on goal within 5 yards of the centre - I call that a chance which I expect to be converted - maybe I've been spoilt by too many good players in the last 15 years and now have to get used to this level of expectation - Ashley's "You've seen worse" - my arse. I think you probably got it right about being spoiled tbf. Considering that chance was fashioned through brilliant interplay and quick passing between the two subs with nothing contributed from midfield you certainly seem to have the mud-tinted specs on.

Nolan is capable of the odd decent touch, he's just too slow similar to Geremi. It's not like Nolan is going to orchestrate the midfield when he plays, so if we play Smith or Geremi it's not going to make that much difference IMO.

Mourinho likes Newcastle as a club, he actually mentioned us as one of the clubs he'd relish the opportunity of reviving a couple of years back. He would want lots of cash though and there's no way Ashley would be able to offer him it, he's way out of our league now.

Why is everyone ignoring Guttierez' shocking miss? Is it because he is awesome? Probably because it wasn't that shocking. He should have hit the target but the angle wasn't great in any case.

won't be missed tbh. of course not, we now have a midfield partnership of Butt and Geremi/Smith to look forward to We've been playing lovely inventive stuff with Butt and Nolan in the middle by contrast...

How are they going to move upwards? Are the league giving out free points or something? How? We had only 1 chance in the whole match where we actually threatend or should have scored- Lovenkrands shocking miss. Otherwise it was all Everton in the second half (understandably). OK, we had a little spell in the first half where we kept the ball and pressed them a bit, but not exactly serious pressure. I thought Shola's disallowed goal was a bit harsh but you just cant challenge the keeper nowadays. Lovenkrands was very poor today, imo. We could have won it by starting the far superior players sat on the bench. I don't think it's that difficult to come up with a cunning plan for victory against an injury ravaged Everton side. In the end though I'm happy with a point considering we were playing with 10 men for 45 mins.

won't be missed tbh. Well its either him or Geremi, Im afriad. I know who I'd choose, anyway. Disgusting tackle, btw. Yes, he apologized but that doesnt excuse him for what he did. What exactly was he trying to do? He didn't need to commit himself like that! If Guthrie's not back, we can always play Geremi. So we'll substitute one lumbering twat for another, it shouldn't make that much difference. Or better still play Smith.

won't be missed tbh.

He did, although he worked tirelessly which automatically qualifies you for MOTM in the Premier, despite almost flawless defending from the two centre halves today...not that they were up against much.

Fair play, nowt wrong with that, it's up to Ashley to win these people round now.

That's his biggest drawback for me. He's a limited player who tries hard and I could live with that if he wasn't slower than Paris hilton.

Not really, read back to earlier pages, I thought he was a shit signing and nothing has made me change my mind. A waste of £4m.

Can he apologise to me for being a travesty of a footballer?

If the subs are timed right the game is still up for grabs. The subs won't be brought on until we are losing so abandon hope lads.

Hughton has destroyed the chances of winning this game by failing to see past his own nose and picking the same side that somehow won against WBA. The two Taylors are both playing out of position when we have proper alternatives available. Terrible, and cowardly management.

I could problably have bit my lip and accepted paying the inflated wages if he showed any real happiness to be here, but you'd think we were paying hm millions in compensation, not wages to pull on a black and white shirt. It will ble like a cloud lifting from the club once he's finally out of Newcastle.