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I hope this isn't true. Mike Ashley'#s commitment could probably be bought out but I wouldn't want to see Alan Shearer involved in ownership of the club. One of the best things about having a neutral owner is that we have smashed the old 'jobs for the boys' culture. With Shearer's return, that will all come back with Alan Oliver re-hired as chief cheerleader.

The way Big Mike stepped in to slap West Ham around over the the Dyer transfer showed me that he was a man not to be taken lightly. Big Mike and Big Sam are a match made in heaven. Onwards and upwards!

Most people know he'd rather be wearing a black and white one given half a chance.

The same was said about Jon Dahl Tomasson when he was here, it didn't mean he was well-suited to playing as an out-and-out striker either. Jon Dahl was a great finisher. Wasn't his fault he was asked to play as frontline striker when he clearly wasn't one.

Only time will tell, I understand where your coming from, but I think that this is the last chance saloon for most of these. Put money aside for the moment, who would want to sign the likes of Dyer and Bellamy if they fu*ck up again. This is make or break for them...... Or a chance to pick up big wages, see the Big City Lights and PAARTYY!!!

were not panicking, on his day he can be a great player. I think you need to get real, we only bought him as back up because Faubert is injured when he is back dyer will be keeping our bench warm. Dyer's a lot better player than many on here will admit, with plenty going for him. Pace to burn, a great engine, great at quick pass and move stuff, and an eye for goal. Most Newcastle fans rank hatred for him will stop them being objective about this. That's the good news. Now the bad news. Dyer doesn't really have a footballers heart. Which player with real ambition would leave a club on the up under a new management regime designed to minimise injuries (bearing in mind Dyer's rotten medical record) to go to a club in turmoil with a manager on the brink of being sacked? Dyer will be going for the London club culture, no doubt he'll enjoy a few good nights getting pissed and laid along with his good pals Bellamy and Bramble. Good player, shit attitude. Good luck!

From where I'm sitting, looks to me like Curbishley is following Roeder's path in signing players without thinking of the overall team structure. loads off small attacking players running all over the place - none bad in their own right or used the right way, but completely pointless when played together.

With this deal, Big Mike Ashley has put down his marker and served notice that there's a new chief in toon. West Ham and their mouthpiece Alan Oliver have been slapped hard around the jowels and both have been left reeling. Big Mike I salute you

you're an idiot. and i mean that with the utmost of respect. Considering you were were saying Dyer wasn't worth half of the £6m, we are now £4m richer (touch wood) thanks to not under-selling our assets. So who is the idiot in this scenario?

Sometimes when you push a 'footballing centre-half' out there it doesn't work as he won't have the options / time and space he has in the middle and will have to get up and down more. I think I'd prefer someone with his distribution in the middle. I agree, for me Rozenhal's reading of the game has been crucial at the heart of the defence - reminds me of Woodgate although he obviously doesn't compare physical presence. We could always use Geremi there as well but I go along with others who say he would be wasted there. A quality right back would be the final piece of the jigsaw for me.

It's more grief for West Ham. How can that be a bad thing?

This is the one position we don't have depth or quality now. Carr has done alright but his lack of pace and positioning was ruthlessly exposed by Anelka. I don't like the idea of Taylor playing RB either for what it's worth.

Go for it I say

Yes we all knew he could finish. No he wasn't given a real chance here. As for the sell on clause, who gives a toss if it would have scuppered his move to the mackems? Cardiff were smart enough to install a £5m release clause and hats off to them for doing it. Compare that to our bumbling board of clowns who backed gormless managers in getting rid for next to nothing. Outsmarted by Cardiff which tells you a lot surely. Well done Chops but I hope he now breaks a leg.

Back on the subject of Dyer, I know it pains the Dyer hate mob that we are going to get so much money for him, but trust me, this works in our favour. I can picture it now: Northern Monkey: " 7 fucking million??! He isn't worth half of that! Nooooooo!!!! He's a fucking little waster who's taken us for mugs - Get rid for £1m!!!

To be fair he's right what he says. Well maqybe he can finally explain - is Shepherd was such a good chairman - his reasoning for appointing both Souness and Roeder in succession? I asked him this before and he didn't answer that question because NE5 is a genius in hindsight. He gets everything right once it's turned out ok. Like this Dyer deal no doubt. On the contrary, I get everything right, or most things, in foresight. I predicted the mess that Souness would leave us in. Both financial and from the playing aspect. I predicted that we would spend millions and not adequately replace Craig Bellamy. I said that Sam Allardyce is the manager we wanted 3 years ago. I predicted that Patrick Kluivert would be a huge flop. I predicted that Luque would be s****. I predicted that Shola Ameobi would never fill Alan Shearers boots and be even an adequate centre forward for Newcastle for as long as he has a hole in his arse. This is a small sample. Unfortunately, as you continue to think that qualifying for europe more than every club in the country, bar 4, is such a massive and huge embarrassing failure, I really can't help you there. It has nothing to do with predicting either by the way. I also can't help you if you STILL fail to comprehend that as he wasn;t the major shareholder and never was, Shepherd was not completely responsible for appointing Souness. I take it you were happy enough to go to 2 Wembley Finals, and qualify for the Champions League, finish in the top 5 for 3 consecutive seasons for the first time in 50 years, and buy top international footballers though ? Nor can I help you if you STILL fail to comprehend that in the real world, everyone makes mistakes. Even the great Steve Gibson for instance, and the Liverpool directors who rather stupidly appointed a double act of Houillier and Evans. Now who on earth appoints managers with little or no experience eh mackems.gif I don't blame you for avoiding the question as to what was Shepherd's reasoning for appointing Souness because when you look at it, it was a decision so monumentally stupid only a complete retard could have come up with it. Poaching a manager who had carefully steered his team towards relegation isn't just a one- off mistake as you keep trying to imply it's a sign of total incompetence. If anyone was in any doubt, then to follow it up with giving the job to Roeder should have rubber-stamped this analysis.

To be fair he's right what he says. Well maqybe he can finally explain - is Shepherd was such a good chairman - his reasoning for appointing both Souness and Roeder in succession? I asked him this before and he didn't answer that question because NE5 is a genius in hindsight. He gets everything right once it's turned out ok. Like this Dyer deal no doubt.

Against who exactly? Hardly going to be against Arsenal & Spurs as they'll be nowhere near Man Utd come May. These are motivational mind games, hoping us, Spurs and Everton will raise their game and get the occasional notch against Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool. Thats why I think he does it by the way, not fact, but Fergie always has a smaller team breaking the top 4, and that would be my suggestion for it. Or maybe he just seriously thinks we'll finish 4th?

Who said you can't disagree? Feel free to disagree, just pointing out that successive managers from Robson through to Allardyce now, have seen fit to put Shola in their squad. That doesn't make them right or you wrong, just a professional manager's opinion will have more weight than Johnny down the pub. But Johnny's entitled to his opinion just like anyone else. especially when the managers were wrong. says Johnny down the pub... Correct. Which, as you say, is my right. Personally, i wouldn't let Shola onto the bench even, but if he has to be there, so be it. As long as we don't have to play the useless pile of steaming donkey s****. correct. And there are plenty of Jonnies in the pubs who wouldn't have bought half the steaming piles of s**** that some of our professional managers have over the years agreed ,especially those appointed by the clueless fat dung merchant who was our last chairman.

I don't think it's that biased, just reflecting obvious pride and satisfaction at a job well done. Bolton stuffed on the pitch,off the pitch, and probably far into the distant future.

Yeah, especially in the case of Dyer. I'd have snapped that £6 million out of West Ham's hands so quickly and brutally that they couldn't w*** again, personally. me too. Its about double what he's worth, and what we dod was f****** stupid. I was happy with £5m but hopefully Curbishley's stupid enough to give us £7m for Solano and Dyer which will get the deal done. i'd take £5m for the pair of them. Not so sure about that like... I mean, yeah, given the circumstances £5m would seem reasonable... But, you know... we'd look a little bit silly ditching both of them for a lower fee than West Ham bid for one of them. Should qualify that...I was happy with £5m before West Ham bid £6m. Obviously we'd be stupid to let him go for £1m less now. Especially as they will still take him for that.

Yeah, especially in the case of Dyer. I'd have snapped that £6 million out of West Ham's hands so quickly and brutally that they couldn't w*** again, personally. me too. Its about double what he's worth, and what we dod was f****** stupid. I was happy with £5m but hopefully Curbishley's stupid enough to give us £7m for Solano and Dyer which will get the deal done.

Oliver's article on today's match should be interesting. Seeing as how he claimed that Allardyce would never get the job when Anal was flying the flag for Roeder's appointment, and his constant sniping at Martins last season. Watch for a complete flip flop as he attempts to do some belated arse-licking today.

Who said you can't disagree? Feel free to disagree, just pointing out that successive managers from Robson through to Allardyce now, have seen fit to put Shola in their squad. That doesn't make them right or you wrong, just a professional manager's opinion will have more weight than Johnny down the pub. But Johnny's entitled to his opinion just like anyone else. especially when the managers were wrong. says Johnny down the pub...

Really good write up of the match regardless of whether he's having a dig at Oliver.