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You would say the same even if we had Andrea Pirlo.

Cisse seems to be on a one man mission to get dispossessed at every opportunity tonight.

Guy had all the physical attributes to be a success at this level. Thick as shit.

I would be quite happy if this was his last season here. If the club is to have any ambitions for getting into Europe in the next few seasons, we need to stop starting him, he is there for workrate and nothing more.

:lol: WUM. We have been in good form lately: http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/form-guide.html Didn't you think that against Swansea, despite the criminal result, that we played well that day? and again with our very recent trip to Anzhi, no?

Maybe because you can't play really well every week? Despite the game not hitting your standards we still controlled the game and won.

We won and imo it was a good performance. We controlled it and we should have buried more of the chances that came our way.

His substitutes changed the game this week, that's a sign of a good manager! At least according to some after the Swansea game. And also Pardew at the moment is completely rubbishing this 'can't come from behind and win' myth. Good stuff indeed!

Considering some of our first XI would have played in Russia just 72 hours ago and Stokes physical style of play. It is never going to be a walk in the park.

you're ridiculous.

They go through with a score draw too.

I thought the whole point of this current debate was the actual standard of the league? In that respect it is irrelevant where the players were born.

FFS

0-0 away in Russia against a billionaires assortment of players with a great manager and also having to adapt to an artifical pitch and temperature isnt a good enough result for some? Fucking hell.

The thread does tell otherwise. We did play well(apart from some defensive issues and not managing to score) and we lost. Still people slate him. It was out 14th defeat in 28 games. "But we played well" means nothing if we keep losing. Swansea away is hardly the easiest fixture now is it? Wouldn't you agree that there has been a vast improvement in results and performances since the new arrivals? If all the signs point to him turning around the situation in recent weeks, why should we get rid of him now?

Yep. I bet this thread would look a lot different if we had managed to score a scruffy goal and they didn't.

I don't understand the negativity in this thread at all. We out-passed and out-thought a good Swansea side, who are on a high, in their own back yard. Barring the comical error in our defense today, i think nigh on evrryone would have taken a draw before the game.

Methodical? They're playing some fine ass hoof-ball

I thought Serie A teams were supposed to be good nowadays? Celtic have been by far the better team.

nobody is looking at it negativly, its all positive at the minute but it's more than just carr finding players, which i've no doubt other clubs were looking at aswell, i peronally don't think sissoko and m'biwa came here as we were the best deal financially, i think they were persuaded by more than that, maybe as the best show case for a further move but given the wage prudency we appear to be showing i'd doubt we beat everyone else off with wages. Please don't tell me that this drawn out discussion is because you have took idle speculation (that there was genuine better offers for Mbiwa and Sissoko) and turned it outright fact? Come on really?? How many players turn down bigger contracts in this day and age. no no, it's came from me watching the players, having an idea how good they are and finding it difficulit to understand that I appear to have better scouting skills than liverpool, spurs, arsenal et al. i am genuinely surprised that these players have came here, they tend to go to clubs offering better wages than we do and in the champs league plus it's not like they are the 'hidden gems' of carr style folklore. Well if there is no offer from any other teams then your unsung hero has done nothing more than offer him a better wage than his current team in France, in a nutshell, right? That's the more plausible explanation imo especially when you consider that we missed out on Remy when a team, who are bottom of the league, offered the same amount of money as we did (apparently).

nobody is looking at it negativly, its all positive at the minute but it's more than just carr finding players, which i've no doubt other clubs were looking at aswell, i peronally don't think sissoko and m'biwa came here as we were the best deal financially, i think they were persuaded by more than that, maybe as the best show case for a further move but given the wage prudency we appear to be showing i'd doubt we beat everyone else off with wages. Please don't tell me that this drawn out discussion is because you have took idle speculation (that there was genuine better offers for Mbiwa and Sissoko) and turned it into an outright fact? Come on really?? How many players turn down bigger contracts in this day and age.

i'd guess it's easier to identify good players than to actually persuade them to come to your club when you quite possibly aren't the best option. you never know carr may even have a hand in this, who knows ? 'Best option'.. based on what mere speculation? We offer them a bigger wage then they were on at France. That's basically accounts for 95%+ of whether we sign them or not. It's Carr who actually shortlists these players who fit the clubs current needs and whether or not they are within our reach with the budget constraints, etc. Like before, Carr seems to be the main cog in recruitment. This magical mysterious man that you mention didn't just get Sissoko to agree a 40k-odd a week deal and turn a blind eye of an offer of 80k a week that he could have got at x, y or z. Would Carr have recommended giving a 150k/week deal to Michael Owen in his final year here? You know...that fella you used to have as your avatar? I'd say we've done quite well in getting shot of players at the right time for the most part. Nolan, Carroll, Lovenkrands all spring to mind. We have built a squad of real value out of nothing. Carr did his bit, but there's a lot more to it than that. Well yeah, in total agreement with what you said. We are actually discussing whether Carr deserves the praise he currently gets when we eventually bring in one of his recommended players that turn out to be good. Without his scouting finds, the shortlisting and both him and Pardew having to agree whether or not to start negotiations for that player, the subsequent transfer steps would ever take place. I can't think of a more important member of our present recruitment strategy, and its present success should be rightly attributed to Carr more than anyone else involved, would you all not agree?

Carr watched Cabaye from 18 years of age, does your guy deserve more plaudits for that one, because we actually signed him and he didn't f*** it up? he's watched a lot of players, i wonder if we try to buy everyone he reccomends ? and like i've said, whoever persuaded him to sign deserves as much plaudits as anyone else. No, him and Pardew both agree on a player from Carr's shortlist. Whoever persuaded him to sign doesn't deserve the same amount of plaudits, no. By offering more money than a French team are paying them is hardly rocket science is it? The single most motivating factor in a transfer is money. If your unsung hero makes transfer targets ignore a better salary, bigger clubs and their agents advice - because after all they are only interested in more cash then wow this guy you speak of does deserve as much credit. Imagine what he could do with a small team like Luton Town eh?

Carr watched Cabaye from 18 years of age, does your guy deserve more plaudits for that one, because we actually signed him and he didn't fuck it up?

i'd guess it's easier to identify good players than to actually persuade them to come to your club when you quite possibly aren't the best option. you never know carr may even have a hand in this, who knows ? 'Best option'.. based on what mere speculation? We offer them a bigger wage then they were on at France. That's basically accounts for 95%+ of whether we sign them or not. It's Carr who actually shortlists these players who fit the clubs current needs and whether or not they are within our reach with the budget constraints, etc. Like before, Carr seems to be the main cog in recruitment. This magical mysterious man that you mention didn't just get Sissoko to agree a 40k-odd a week deal and turn a blind eye of an offer of 80k a week that he could have got at x, y or z. crikey man if you want to be like that i'd guess that other scouts report to carr, carr reports to the management so he just a standard cog and yes i do personally think both he and m'biwa could've got better deals elsewhere.........or are you saying it was carr that got it wrong last summer ? Your point on Mwiba: Speculative nonsense. If he could have got more, he probably would have (read up on Loic Remy). Your point on Carr just being a standard cog: No Llambias said himself that Carr does all the shortlisting meeting their requirements, chats with Pardew and they both agree on who to proceed with. Carr got what wrong, how? How is your unsung hero doing more exactly, why are we discussing this still?? Anyone could see that our recent recruitment success is all based around Carr's scouting network in France. Not your unsung hero who somehow turns players away from more money and a better location, to sign for us.