Unbelievable

No he f***ing isn't. see how would you know? judging on past comments I'd pretty much put my life on you never watching an epl game we cant keep losing out on players like this. Campbell, Distin, Santa Cruz, Ben haim, Carrick, Dunne, these are players that should be playing for us but we missed the boat through indecision, bad negotiating or ridiculous overrating of our current squad and a lack of hindsight. same old story, f***ing sick of it. FYP. where does hindsight come in though, all very good players when we had the chance to sign them and all well within reach The point is, we were/are going for targets which we believed would work out better than those you mentioned. Not really, we lose out on our first choice targets and end up with second or third choice. It´s happening all over again. It´s all good and well saying the window is long and wait till the end of the window to see who we´ve signed, but if we are losing out to our first choice transfer targets at this moment in time (and it does make sense to go for your first choice targets first, doesn´t it, like we did with Modric) it will mean we fall further behind other teams, especially if it´s them picking up our first choice candidates, such as seems the case with Spurs and Portsmouth at the moment.. I think Allardyce commented on it frequently in the last summer window with the new owner keeping their purse closed, a slow or bad start to the recruitment process means you have to set your sights lower continuously and doesn´t benefit the club at all.

Good call. Emre and Butt looked a fairly balanced central midfield, but with Parker transformed to box to box and Emre to the more defensive midfielder of the two it didn´t benefit either player, and it´s no surprise they are now both gone even though they are both more talented than our current remaining bunch of talentless grafters..

`Obviously the lad in question has no concept of modern, civilised society - so he shouldn't have any trouble adjusting to conditions in North London.` Excellent!

We have a squad that´s lacking in quantity and quality.. No need for a semi scientific approach for that observation sadly.

That´s right, but in the case of all 3 players I think it´s fair to say it´s sometimes better to have a crock capable of doing something when he´s fit than to have a super fit player raring to go every match but who doesn´t have the required quality. Anyway, if we get good money I will feel this is a good deal, providing we replace him with someone better. Just about like, but i'd rather have neither and that's what i hope this summer is about. Good start getting him off our books, now for the super fit one (Smith). I think we all agree there!

That´s right, but in the case of all 3 players I think it´s fair to say it´s sometimes better to have a crock capable of doing something when he´s fit than to have a super fit player raring to go every match but who doesn´t have the required quality. Anyway, if we get good money I will feel this is a good deal, providing we replace him with someone better.

20 full games for every player would mean we needed more than 2 full first teams just to get through the league games, add possible cup runs and we'd need something like 60 players. Isn´t it common knowledge that a self respecting club needs two full squads (2 players for every position) to realistically compete in all competitions? He wasn´t always picked to play either (benched, subs), so to figure in over 25 games a season as a supposed crock doesn´t sound so bad to me. Certainly not worse than the likes of Dyer and Owen.

I don't think Emre has played 75 games for us and he's been here for 3 seasons. You´re right. It was 76. Another myth disspelled.. Aye, but he didn't play an average of 25 games a season and technically Parker scored more goals than him over the two seasons he was here, so it's swings and roundabouts I'm afraid. How does 76 appearances in 3 seasons not compute to `over 25 games a season on average`? Fair enough about the goals I guess, although it must be close. At least with Emre there was a chance of a central midfielder scoring, which is more than can be said of the likes of Smith. I prefer to use the total minutes played rather than just the "20 games, 5 sub appearances" method, personally, as it gives a more accurate reflection. With that, he managed just under 20 games a season on average. I like the bloke as well and appreciate his talent in the same way that you do, to be honest, I don't think you can be accused of not supporting the club for being sad to see him go and for wanting to see an accurate portrayal of his time here rather than the "he was crap and always injured!!!" rubbish some have posted. I just hope we replace him effectively, 'cos as you say the creativity levels in our midfield are dangerously low now. Ok, I appreciate you dug up the figures to prove that the `always injured´ line doesn´t really hold. He has been injured quite (to) frequently though, especially the last season, and I think that may have distorted peoples´ views somewhat (short memories). Personally, I don´t think his total minutes per season average will be much lower than other first team players though. 20 full 90 minute games a season isn´t that bad surely? 20 is dreadful u expect your best players to play in every game they are available for how many did ronaldo play this season 60+ Our first team doesn´t even play that many. You can only play in games that your team plays in you know.

I don't think Emre has played 75 games for us and he's been here for 3 seasons. You´re right. It was 76. Another myth disspelled.. Aye, but he didn't play an average of 25 games a season and technically Parker scored more goals than him over the two seasons he was here, so it's swings and roundabouts I'm afraid. How does 76 appearances in 3 seasons not compute to `over 25 games a season on average`? Fair enough about the goals I guess, although it must be close. At least with Emre there was a chance of a central midfielder scoring, which is more than can be said of the likes of Smith. can you get it he played 57 games for the club, not ur made up figure of 76 games, like every fucker on this thread is saying He? Strange definition. So would you say Kazenga Lua Lua has never played a game for Newcastle because he´s never started for us?

I don't think Emre has played 75 games for us and he's been here for 3 seasons. You´re right. It was 76. Another myth disspelled.. Aye, but he didn't play an average of 25 games a season and technically Parker scored more goals than him over the two seasons he was here, so it's swings and roundabouts I'm afraid. How does 76 appearances in 3 seasons not compute to `over 25 games a season on average`? Fair enough about the goals I guess, although it must be close. At least with Emre there was a chance of a central midfielder scoring, which is more than can be said of the likes of Smith. I prefer to use the total minutes played rather than just the "20 games, 5 sub appearances" method, personally, as it gives a more accurate reflection. With that, he managed just under 20 games a season on average. I like the bloke as well and appreciate his talent in the same way that you do, to be honest, I don't think you can be accused of not supporting the club for being sad to see him go and for wanting to see an accurate portrayal of his time here rather than the "he was crap and always injured!!!" rubbish some have posted. I just hope we replace him effectively, 'cos as you say the creativity levels in our midfield are dangerously low now. Ok, I appreciate you dug up the figures to prove that the `always injured´ line doesn´t really hold. He has been injured quite (to) frequently though, especially the last season, and I think that may have distorted peoples´ views somewhat (short memories). Personally, I don´t think his total minutes per season average will be much lower than other first team players though. 20 full 90 minute games a season isn´t that bad surely?

Now, that would be good business. Believe it when I see it though.

I don't think Emre has played 75 games for us and he's been here for 3 seasons. You´re right. It was 76. Another myth disspelled.. Aye, but he didn't play an average of 25 games a season and technically Parker scored more goals than him over the two seasons he was here, so it's swings and roundabouts I'm afraid. How does 76 appearances in 3 seasons not compute to `over 25 games a season on average`? Fair enough about the goals I guess, although it must be close. At least with Emre there was a chance of a central midfielder scoring, which is more than can be said of the likes of Smith. He played 59 games in 3 seasons. Heh? Since when is a sub not an appearance?

I don't think Emre has played 75 games for us and he's been here for 3 seasons. You´re right. It was 76. Another myth disspelled.. Aye, but he didn't play an average of 25 games a season and technically Parker scored more goals than him over the two seasons he was here, so it's swings and roundabouts I'm afraid. How does 76 appearances in 3 seasons not compute to `over 25 games a season on average`? Fair enough about the goals I guess, although it must be close. At least with Emre there was a chance of a central midfielder scoring, which is more than can be said of the likes of Smith.

Considering around 40%+ of those games will be him coming back from another injury, his assist and goal record isn't that bad. But then again that just proves what the majority know about Emre, good player, horrific injury record and better for the club that he's gone. Some people need to try supporting the club and look out for its interests instead of supporting certain players and looking out for them. See, I agree with much of that actually. I don´t see how people wanting us to keep our better players )and being a bit disheartened at losing one whilst holding on to our grafters) can be accused of not supporting the club though.

I don't think Emre has played 75 games for us and he's been here for 3 seasons. You´re right. It was 76. Another myth disspelled..

There wouldn´t be a point in keeping such a player, except your description doesn´t really apply to Emre. He has played over 25 games a season on average for us, scored and created more goals than any of our other central midfield players in his time here and played at his best when the pressure was on, scoring some important, matchwinning goals in the process..

Just a shame he's took triple that off us in wages. You´re going on like he robbed us ffs. Do you expect players to come play for us for nothing? I can think of a dozen players in our squad who´ve done less to earn their wages. Oh shut up you little tart. You´re pathetic the way you´re going on. I´ve said this before in another context to somebody else, but you´re going on like the player bumped your girlfriend. I can´t personally see a reason for celebrating another talented player who has left this club after failing to offer us what we know he´s capable off. Edit, oh I see you removed that reply. Internet hardman turned bottler then.. No just think you are a little spastic and not worth it, just like Emre and his wages. Tosser. Hahaha

What? We´ve been crying out for a midfielder with some quality on the ball for the entire season man! well he didn't play so we didn't miss him Right, that makes sense..

What? We´ve been crying out for a midfielder with some quality on the ball for the entire season man!

Just a shame he's took triple that off us in wages. You´re going on like he robbed us ffs. Do you expect players to come play for us for nothing? I can think of a dozen players in our squad who´ve done less to earn their wages. Oh shut up you little tart. You´re pathetic the way you´re going on. I´ve said this before in another context to somebody else, but you´re going on like the player bumped your girlfriend. I can´t personally see a reason for celebrating another talented player who has left this club after failing to offer us what we know he´s capable off. Edit, oh I see you removed that reply. Internet hardman turned bottler then..

Just a shame he's took triple that off us in wages. You´re going on like he robbed us ffs. Do you expect players to come play for us for nothing? I can think of a dozen players in our squad who´ve done less to earn their wages.

Terrible. That´s not so bad considering the idiots that we had managing the team at times felt players like Amdy Faye and Alan Smith would offer more in midfield.. How many starts has Owen got in that time?

We´re not exactly hitting our targets yet, are we?

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Lets hope those personal terms can be sorted out. A bit sad really. We sell Emre, a talented football player, for less than we paid for our two talentless midfield grafters last season and you feel it´s a reason to celebrate? I´ll reserve judgement until I see us replacing him with someone better. For now I feel we´ve just gone backwards another step, and our squad already was paper thin..

The most used things in his locker are the injury excuse book and the sick note, if he goes and we get a fee then we've done well. Emre has turned out to have been a terrible signing. Was the same for Owen for the first two and a half season with us, yet he seems to have managed to turn a lot of people around in the past 6 months. No way of knowing whether Emre would have been able to do the same.. Emre has been here longer than Owen and still shows no sign of an apetite to get off the treatment table and play for the club. they've both been here for 3 seasons actually. emre's played over 80 games for us in that time, Owen's played less than 50. If those figures are correct he has almost figured 30 matches a season, which is not exactly bad going. Just goes to show how short people´s memories are. Which isn´t to say Emre isn´t injury prone, but let´s not pretend Owen is any different..