Parky

Good news about Luque. Celtic have a weak side out?

0-4.

We're gonna get whooped. Shit back line. Agreed Hunty and Ramage next to each other spells doom.

We're gonna get whooped.

It would be nice to get him off the wage bill.

Villareal are after Baptista and Anelka now it transpires. They've already got some French speaking players there an they have made comments about Anelka's 'new maturity'. .LL Y J.F - Navata y Vila-real El Villarreal busca un delantero con urgencia y si falla Baptista, el ‘plan B’ es el ex madridista Nicolás Anelka, francés que se uniría a la colonia gala compuesta por Pires, Cygan y Mavouba. Tras la marcha de Forlán, Arruabarrena, Peña, Álvarez, Tachinardi y la más que probable de Riquelme, el nuevo líder amarillo es el veterano Pires, clave en la clasificación del equipo para la UEFA, pero faltaría el ‘cuarto mosquetero’. La opción prioritaria es Baptista, pero el brasileño se resiste a dejar el Real Madrid y se buscan otras opciones. El nombre que sale ahora a la palestra es el de Anelka, al que su técnico en el Bolton, Sammy Lee, le ha abierto las puertas. Los dirigentes amarillos han recabado informes entre la colonia francesa de su plantilla sobre la conveniencia de hacerse con su servicios y han sido satisfactorios, una vez que el parisino parece haber alcanzado la madurez que le ha permitido regresar a la selección francesa o volver a estar en el punto de mira de los grandes. Además, su fichaje resultaría menos costoso que ‘La bestia’, por el que el Madrid pide 20 millones."

West Ham double swoop. Anelka and Shorey.

can in a way,it's the" glory hunting i want to be attached to winner" complex that is fucking football the world over. as for me,the only time i derive enjoyment from foreign football results is when the supposed big guns get turned over off so-called lesser lights and theres few things better than a nobody winning the league. it's true that's why I've got a soft spot for Napoli, still the FA are a useless organisation and they should take the blame imo I too like the underdogs of Napoli and also the Genovese.

What has he done in the last 8 years to warrant such praise? bringing inter at second place... at the last year of hector raul cuper managerial... one of moratti golden boy in that time... emre career just drop like a water fall since mancini... just very few time of playing... one of 100 top footballer legend at pele's view.... How long ago was that? 1 season..... he just arrived... 1 season before he become first team regular player That was before the injuries though right? ditto!... but his injury are not as crocked as owen... just mancini quite doesn't like midget... He's not what he used to be though I think you'd agree. Injuries haven't ruined him mate, I think you're clutching at straws here tbh. What's held him back is having 2 awful managers in Souness and Roader. Yes Baggy that is partly true but is also true is that he while looking good he doesn't contribute much like the way I used to hide in the choir. I think that depends on what you consider to be a contribution, he doesn't get many goals or assists if that's what you're referring to however he's a player that is capable of bringing more to the team than that, one thing that usually gets overlooked is how he drops deep to receive the simple ball from the defence so he can play it out from the back, he's a player that can keep the team ticking over with his ability to pass and move, he's someone who continuously looks for the ball in midfield, bringing others into the game and works his bollocks off most of the time closing down the opposition. Teams need players like this, he's like an upgrade on Speed at Bolton last year and as part of a 3 man midfield he'll make a big contribution as to how we do in the league next season if he remains fit, sometimes you have to look deeper to find what contribution a player makes rather than stats on a website, look at the impact Carrick had on Spurs and Man Utd over the past few years but he's an unsung hero so to speak, I'm not saying Emre is as good as him but he's the same type of unsung hero to me. Overall i agree with parkey some how.... he haven't perform yet for NUFC... and it's because the manager tactic... also player must follow manager... if he cannot perform on manager tactic.... then he should go... if cannot flourish under Big Sam he must go... but i still agree that he stay... at least this year under Big Sam... give him another opportunity... but if he still cannot perform ... he must go.... but i don't doubt his capabilities and what he can do.... Should have just stopped there fella...

He won't go there.

What is all this premiership experience bollocks? Perhaps an echo from the Luque and Bumdong deals?

IMO we'll get 4/5 more players before the window closes. 2 full backs and a cd are a priority.

He won't go there.

That's the spirit. blueyes.gif

Yeah people keep saying that but the stats say otherwise and have done now for a number of years. My opinion. Stats, lies, damn lies and statistics. Those are Big Sams bible.

What has he done in the last 8 years to warrant such praise? bringing inter at second place... at the last year of hector raul cuper managerial... one of moratti golden boy in that time... emre career just drop like a water fall since mancini... just very few time of playing... one of 100 top footballer legend at pele's view.... How long ago was that? 1 season..... he just arrived... 1 season before he become first team regular player That was before the injuries though right? ditto!... but his injury are not as crocked as owen... just mancini quite doesn't like midget... He's not what he used to be though I think you'd agree. Injuries haven't ruined him mate, I think you're clutching at straws here tbh. What's held him back is having 2 awful managers in Souness and Roader. Yes Baggy that is partly true but is also true is that he while looking good he doesn't contribute much like the way I used to hide in the choir.

Yeah people keep saying that but the stats say otherwise and have done now for a number of years.

Isn't that the sort of thing you'd do BEFORE spending £140m? I would!! But . . . . I am not a Billionaire as a result of my methods! So he'll recklessly throw £140m away (and take on the debt), but wont spend ~£5m on a left back which anyone is could tell him we need until a complete review has taken place? This is the only credible (logical) argument you've come up with? Same as I said to Parky, really. Do you think Sam should buy a slice of bread and dripping this week, when he could hopefully (and he is aware of this) be in a position to buy a ton of fillet steak NEXT week? I think you've misunderstood what medium and long term mean. We're talking from one year to 18 months and then again 4 to 5 years. That is what the review is about making a long term structure. It has no bearing on getting in for £3m def this week. I appreciate what you are saying, but my judgement of Ashley (and his 'park my tanks on their front lawn' methods) is, that he likes to react quickly. So, his 'short term' strategy is being decided also. He will react/act very quickly (I personally feel) but only when he is in possession of the information to enable him to do so - accurately. It will be soon. I agree and we have to also bear in mind that he is learning on the job...However he is a fast and proactive learner. I'm actually fascinated to see what business novelties he'll bring to the football club environment.

What has he done in the last 8 years to warrant such praise? bringing inter at second place... at the last year of hector raul cuper managerial... one of moratti golden boy in that time... emre career just drop like a water fall since mancini... just very few time of playing... one of 100 top footballer legend at pele's view.... How long ago was that? 1 season..... he just arrived... 1 season before he become first team regular player That was before the injuries though right? ditto!... but his injury are not as crocked as owen... just mancini quite doesn't like midget... He's not what he used to be though I think you'd agree.

Isn't that the sort of thing you'd do BEFORE spending £140m? I would!! But . . . . I am not a Billionaire as a result of my methods! So he'll recklessly throw £140m away (and take on the debt), but wont spend ~£5m on a left back which anyone is could tell him we need until a complete review has taken place? This is the only credible (logical) argument you've come up with? Same as I said to Parky, really. Do you think Sam should buy a slice of bread and dripping this week, when he could hopefully (and he is aware of this) be in a position to buy a ton of fillet steak NEXT week? I think you've misunderstood what medium and long term mean. We're talking from one year to 18 months and then again 4 to 5 years. That is what the review is about making a long term structure. It has no bearing on getting in for £3m def this week.

There has to be a reason why we ("but not at the moment") are not buying the players we need (at his time) to fill the obvious gaps in the team. People can give many reasons for this, but the only one that I can see that is credible, is the one I mention. Why do you see this only credible (logical) reason, as a smokescreen? A smokescreen for WHAT? Ashley would have known the bottom line before he bought the club. He doesn't need to wait for people to count pencils and paper clips. Parky, I agree wholeheartedy with that. However, that is not what the (strategic) review will be about. That sort of thing is 'low level'. What Mort will be doing is high level stuff. His report to Ashley (in my personal opinion) will all be about "where the club is in the football world" / "where can it relistically be in the football world" / "what do we need to do to get there, and when can we get there" / AND ALL THE FINANCIAL DATA TO BACK IT UP. Takes time does that, examining data and information on football clubs (football businesses) from all around the UK and Europe (possibly the world). Speculation (on all of that sort of thing) takes TEN MINUTES (or less). You and I could do that! But, real research and evidence and data and provable analysis - takes a LOT longer. Oh, and there will be a 'procedural review' into paperclips type-of-thing, going on at the same time, no doubt!! We're on the same page right? blueyes.gif My point is that this review doesn't stop us at this point being aggressive in the market. The two things aren't intrinsically linked, people have picked up on it as there aren't too many other clues. I think they are very linked. A "Strategic Review" is to decide strategy. Strategy 1 - Dont invest! Strategy 2 - INVEST! Action will not (CAN not) happen, until it is concluded. Strategic reviews by their very nature are medium to long term profile and risk assesment instruments that lay a footprint of strategies. They have nothing to do with not buying or buying a couple of defenders.

There has to be a reason why we ("but not at the moment") are not buying the players we need (at his time) to fill the obvious gaps in the team. People can give many reasons for this, but the only one that I can see that is credible, is the one I mention. Why do you see this only credible (logical) reason, as a smokescreen? A smokescreen for WHAT? Ashley would have known the bottom line before he bought the club. He doesn't need to wait for people to count pencils and paper clips. Parky, I agree wholeheartedy with that. However, that is not what the (strategic) review will be about. That sort of thing is 'low level'. What Mort will be doing is high level stuff. His report to Ashley (in my personal opinion) will all be about "where the club is in the football world" / "where can it relistically be in the football world" / "what do we need to do to get there, and when can we get there" / AND ALL THE FINANCIAL DATA TO BACK IT UP. Takes time does that, examining data and information on football clubs (football businesses) from all around the UK and Europe (possibly the world). Speculation (on all of that sort of thing) takes TEN MINUTES (or less). You and I could do that! But, real research and evidence and data and provable analysis - takes a LOT longer. Oh, and there will be a 'procedural review' into paperclips type-of-thing, going on at the same time, no doubt!! We're on the same page right? blueyes.gif My point is that this review doesn't stop us at this point being aggressive in the market. The two things aren't intrinsically linked, people have picked up on it as there aren't too many other clues.

There has to be a reason why we ("but not at the moment") are not buying the players we need (at his time) to fill the obvious gaps in the team. People can give many reasons for this, but the only one that I can see that is credible, is the one I mention. Why do you see this only credible (logical) reason, as a smokescreen? A smokescreen for WHAT? Ashley would have known the bottom line before he bought the club. He doesn't need to wait for people to count pencils and paper clips.

The strategic review is a smokescreen I wish people would stop mentioning it....It means nothing.