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Holy crap...I wonder who has the actual jurisdication here. How can an England court over turn an US court and vice versa? That's what I'm wondering. Don't get how it can all come to this...

Not exactly, but no home win in 3 (when the three were Blackpool, Stoke, Wigan) would be a very worrying statistic. So would another new manager. Stability is one of the only things on our side right now.

I'll hold my hands up now, Dave. I've sat here and laughed at how angry you've got at events in this thread. I'm officially on your side with the roof debacle.

Let's get 'em jailed!!!

actually painted? God. I've bought some fantastic aerial pictures of SJP over the years, such a shame there's gonna be none for a while now. And if it's still there next season, aerial shots used on TV on football shows are gonna have it in. Ugh.

I really don't know why, but I didn't care about it around the outside of SJP, now it's on the roof I really don't like the idea. Even though it's less seen. Maybe it's just because amazing aerial pictures of SJP and the surrounding area would now be completely butchered by such a ridiculously pointless thing.

True. Something needs to be done Ian, and we need to live with the rocky moments the rule changes bring. 'Cause right now, the game is going further down the pan and things like diving and leg breakers need to be eliminated. Overall, I'm still personally in favour of a video review panel.

I think we're at the point where we need a weekly video review panel to punish dangerous play and divers retrospectively. What about straight red cards for diving? The other team won't benefit at all from Ashley Young getting a one match ban and a telling off. I know, I know - it still relies on referees getting it right but if a player knows any attempt to con the ref puts himself in jeopardy of getting sent off, I don't think he'd attempt it in the first place. But too many don't get caught to make that worth it IMO. Weekly video review panel if anything for me. Although madras I think it was made a good point a couple of days ago, that if we brought in a weekly panel, are we not going to have problems with clubs wanting more justice than just bans and fines when a retrospective decision would have majorly changed the direction of the match? Especially if it could have changed their league position come the end of the season and such? Just so many different things to cover, I think that's one of the biggest reasons why this technology is being dismissed right now, purely because they're nowhere near finished debating all possibilities in FIFA themselves.

What would happen if Barca were ever to suffer relegation and Barca B were in the Segunda already, VI? Seeing as they're not allowed in the same league.

the mugs are 69p and fookin' massive like. good excuse for longer tea breaks at work i suppose 69p, fuck that! Buy what you want online and get it for free. Although I chucked mine in the bin with the rest of the packaging (Which was one of the most ridiculously over-sized boxes I've ever had a pair of trainers ever delivered in!!).

Common sense in the last 3 posts. There's a difference between a fantastic sliding tackle and breaking someone's legs. You don't lose the first by cracking down on the latter. You just need players to be coached how to tackle properly, and reprimand the cunts that do it on purpose like De Jong. Same with diving, reprimand them so there's actually a reason for them to stop. Baba's had it right in the past that you're at a disadvantage if you don't dive these days. But that doesn't make it right. It still needs to be kicked out of the game.

Unreal. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Liverpool fail, but Hicks and Gillett are doing my fucking head in now. Jailed? Seriously? No wonder there's such massive preconceptions about America when these are the Yanks grabbing the headlines in other countries.

Is that even possible?

I didn't think these rumours of Rooney being off from Old Trafford had anything in them, but this contradiction proves something really isn't right there.

Tom Hicks is a gentleman and a scholar.

But don't we basically say that every 2 years? England (generally) plough through everyone in qualifying, and get hyped to the hilt, before the crashing realisation that we aren't really going to do that well. Yes, I'd consider a lot of it mental, and no, I've got no idea of a solution apart from hope a manager can finally get this complacency out of them (which is what I think the mental issue is). I've just kind of got bored of the same routine.

Arsenal, Blackpool, Everton. Have to respect the way Arsene has his teams play. Have to respect what Blackpool have done and what they appear to be continuing to do. And Moyes is a fantastic manager. Fulham would have probably been in there if Hodgson was still there.

Genuine question HTT, what is it about these clubs that make you think differently? 'Cause I'd say they're basically in the same boat in what they've done. Surprised you say good luck and that Bolton have done well, but Fulham don't get that praise when since coming back up, they've probably done considerably more than Bolton.

That is a top drawer cameraman right there.

Fact. The delay argument is ridiculous, don't bring in a system that delays it too much then? If a system is created that is sensible, it won't do that, we'll barely notice the delay, it'll just become part of the game.

If the alternatives are Redknapp, Bruce and Allardyce then yes. God no, forgetting his qualities as a manager, the media will never allow it. What's the point if everyone's gonna be on his back from the off? He's never gonna be given a chance and he'll be forced to fail by all the pressure. Although, saying that I don't really care about England. So I'd love Allardyce to get the job and fuck it all up just for shits and giggles.

Agreed because that argument is technically flawed. It works on the assumption that the referee saw everything, and therefore made all their decisions based on total knowedge of each and every event. However, we know that referees either only see part of the incident, or at times don't see anything at all. Howard Webb said after the WC Final that had he seen what De Jong really did he would have used Red not Yellow card, but the alignment of the player meant that he only had a partial view, and could only summise what might really have happened. There is a huge difference between a situation where the referee waives off a call because he saw it and said "no foul" and one where he didn't see enough to call a foul. So, the FA and FIFA need to accept that the referee sees one view, in real time only and does not have the luxury of mutiple replays from all angles, and that they need to assist the referees in cleaning up the game and not rely on the referees to do all the work for them. And I would also only limit this to acts of misconduct (dangerous play, Unsporting behavious etc) and not attempt to get into reviews of Penalty claims or missed offside calls as there can be no post-game revision of the scores etc. nope, what it does is sticks to the idea that the outcome is decided as far as possible by the ref within the game time. it could (in the eyes of fifa, and i have a bit of sympathy with it) open up all sorts of trouble should decisions be enacted after the game ie a player is given a red card retrospectivly, we'd see court cases from teams saying that it altered the game etc so they shouldn't have been relegated and lost all that cash and bankrupted. Very good point madras, most solutions we are thinking of would cause massive problems in that respect. Hadn't thought of that at all.

Before West Ham, somehow I still seemed to come across random pointless soundbites even when they were in charge of Brum, unbelievable. Despised them even then and they're just getting worse.

How about as usual the newspapers have their facts wrong? Can't believe we've got 2 pages of this shite