Minhosa

said nobody, ever.

He never did that at our place. He was very obviously under clear instructions to 'lump it up top'.

Yeah, he'll get it.

I disagree with that sorry. Most London clubs' fans are from the local areas and will drink/socialise around them (they have a sense of pride for their postcode), hence why we have so many bloody clubs in the big smoke. Spurs fans are a good example actually, they normally come from Tottenham/Wood Green/Barnet/Seven Sisters etc all of which are very close to WHL and with plenty of run down boozers to choose from I live near Selhurst Park - which has a tremendous atmosphere these days but that's mostly down to being grateful for being in the PL, a small stadium with a section that will sing & make noise no matter the result. Most of the home fans come from within 4 miles of the stadium, i'm certain of that. You won't find many Palace fans from North London. Apart from Arsenal & Chelsea and perhaps to a lesser extent Spurs - most London clubs have very local support primarily. I've never met a Spurs fan who wasn't from North London. I think our problem at NUFC is that we've gone stale as a fanbase. We never got overly excited, we never get too down - except for Derbies. Mission completed Mike. Good post I used to live in Thornton Heath once upon a time. I agree with what Minhosa said about the atmosphere around the time of KK- it was something else. I was a young boy absolutely fascinated by the city and it's mostly because of the incredible feeling and mentality around the club at the time, it really was unique. In terms of the here and now- I would say Palace fans are more 'fervent' about their club than we are at the moment. I go to Selhurst quite a bit with my Palace supporting mate and I have to say I am routinely jealous of their atmosphere. I don't care if it's one small stand going nuts...it's one more stand than we have. I would class them as having a more unique feeling around the place than Newcastle in 2014. Again sorry but that is absolute rubbish. How could you possibly say that's exclusive to Newcastle? I've been in Leeds, Charlton, Norwich...hell (and I hate to admit this) even Sunderland where a scenario similar to that has occurred. If you work in London and you're in a neutral area (such as central) then of course, people are likely to support different clubs. You'll probably find mostly Liverpool fans even! But if you're in the residential areas, such as Leytonstone, then you'll find most of the locals are Orient fans and are passionate ones to boot who talk about the club with some random guy at the local offie. Fair play. Well I have. I've seen Aston/Perry Barr after a Villa win, the absent mood in Stratford after a West Ham draw... I've seen Bermondsey being torn to shreds after a Millwall loss. I think we're a very special club but just not in this way, other football clubs directly affect their area's mood in largely the same way imo. My office is in E10. I've never ever noticed a different vibe when Orient get beat. I'm regularly around Stratford and I'd never know if West Ham had won or lost. I've been to the Emirates (fantastic stadium) and watched as their fans disappear like little mice, scampering in different directions, after the final whistle. I just really don't see how football affects the local mood in any way, shape or form in relative contrast to that of football in the NE. I've literally, in 14 years, never seen an old granny chatting about football in London. For the most part my football related conversations gloss the surface with other fans because there's either not the passion, interest or knowledge tbqh.

What the owners of City have done is nothing short of superb. They've put down sustainable roots. Their investment outside of the football pitch is something else. Their impact on the community is unreal. They've even put an Etihad call centre inside its own custom built office block just off Manchester Airport. They've built a private hanger etc at Manchester Airport just for their guests. They've created an incredible amount of jobs just through their involvement. On the other hand, our tight bastard, has put more people on the dole than he has created new jobs. How can you miss the point so badly and still expect to control everything about the club. He doesn't own its fucking soul but we've let him think he does. That's shameful when you think about it. We've given up.

Aye. It should be a losing battle when it involves a 'collective being' though. You can do what you like when your punters are popping in for a pair of Sondico shinpads but when you've got responsibility for the heartbeat of a region you should be held to greater account than he is. Money buys a lot of things but it shouldn't be impunity of a collective. That should be the only thing we've got, we should hold him to greater account and we should be far more vocal about it. He gets an easy ride considering how much we could fuck up his control mojo.

I'd say our support is still fervent to the extent that it's very much part of the weekly routine, discussed everywhere at length including by old grannys in the street and people still turn up in their tens of thousands to watch a team that's got f*** all chance of achieving anything under the current owner. It might not be vocal but that's because they've got nothing to shout positively about. Easier to sit tight and do their 'duty' and then meet their mates in the pub afterwards before walking into the town to get lashed. The s*** football was a minor inconvenience during a day/night out. That's totally different to football and football fans in the south/south east imho. Do they love their clubs any less? No. But the demographic is totally different in so much as the 'match' isn't woven into all elements of society in the way in the way it is in the NE, including Sunderland. I think there is a common misconception when pundits etc refer to our "fanatical" support and other fans take exception to that label. As you say, it is not that we as individuals love the club more but it is the intensity and fervour created when virtually every one in this city supports one team. Whether people like football or not, they are still aware of everything that is going on related to NUFC and it will probably affect their lives in some way whether they personally like football or not. (I remember years ago, a girlfriend of my brother who was not interested in football would always check the score before deciding whether to come around on a Saturday night because if we lost, my Dad would be in a bad mood). I like it when you overhear conversations in a shop talking about the football and you know they are talking about Newcastle or when an old lady will come up to you after a match and ask how "the lads" got on as will all the shop assistants. No need to ask "which team". That doesn't happen elsewhere. When I worked in London, everyone in the office interested in football supported a different team. That meant that the limited football conversation was very different from up here where so much of it is based around NUFC. I would say that during every conversation I have with an acquaintance up here, there will be a point when the latest goings on at Newcastle will be brought up. When the team does well, local businesses benefit from that and productivity improves. On a Saturday night if the team has played well, there will be a great vibe in town and people stay out and drink longer whereas if it is another defeat, people tend to go straight home. This is why it is different up here. Do I support Newcastle more than another club's supporter? No. But having lived all over the country including cities like Manchester and London, I have never experienced anything like how the performance of a football team affects the rhythm of a city and the people that live in it as much as Newcastle United does. Great post Wallace and I totally concur. I've lived all over the UK and abroad but there's no City quite impacted by its football teams performance in respect of its 'vibe'. Under KK, the atmosphere around the place was unbelievable. I mean, literally, unbelievable. I've said it before but we would turn up to games wondering how many goals we'd win by. I remember the days of leaving the ground having drawn with Arsenal or Spurs and being absolutely gutted. I mean, like shocked that some other team could come to what was a fortress and have the audacity to take a share of the points. The evening chronicle was filled with player interviews, as a supporter you could sense the banter between the players, you could watch the players train - the club was as open as you could get, there was a hugely positive feeling everywhere and that transcended itself to the stadium come match day. That's one of the elements of the Ashley reign that fucks me off the most, if he threw less than 2% of his wealth at the club we could be incredible. He could lift a whole region, he could create more wealth, he could immerse himself into the club in the way that he initially wanted to and he could have become a god, genuinely.

I'd say our support is still fervent to the extent that it's very much part of the weekly routine, discussed everywhere at length including by old grannys in the street and people still turn up in their tens of thousands to watch a team that's got fuck all chance of achieving anything under the current owner. It might not be vocal but that's because they've got nothing to shout positively about. Easier to sit tight and do their 'duty' and then meet their mates in the pub afterwards before walking into the town to get lashed. The shit football was a minor inconvenience during a day/night out. That's totally different to football and football fans in the south/south east imho. Do they love their clubs any less? No. But the demographic is totally different in so much as the 'match' isn't woven into all elements of society in the way in the way it is in the NE, including Sunderland. Maybe it's just me looking through rose tinted specs then but I remember when the St James crowd was a lot more vocal and didn't sit there like gimps watching shit football and thinking they've had a decent return for their money. Mind that's going back to the days when there was terraces and it didn't take much to get the crowd jumping. It's totally different set of supporters now with a lot more families and kids. That's great in a lot of ways but the atmosphere is dead in large parts of the ground and far too many are pleased just to be there and do the happy clappy act. I totally agree what you're saying, I used to have a season ticket in the Milburn paddock, getting pushed in the rush towards the pitch when we scored and shouting abuse at Kevin Sheedy etc. The atmosphere/craic then was superb but football was a different game. Back in those days, blokes where we stood would whip out their cocks and piss on the floor. You'd get arrested for that now . The match going public has changed. All seaters, the subsequent rise in costs, the change in the 'premier league' via Sky etc changed football for society. The football crowds these days are the equivalent of the rugby spectator set from 20 years ago. I read earlier today that it's 18 years to the day when Albert chipped Schmeical. I was at that game. Best atmosphere I've ever seen at St James's.

I'd say our support is still fervent to the extent that it's very much part of the weekly routine, discussed everywhere at length including by old grannys in the street and people still turn up in their tens of thousands to watch a team that's got fuck all chance of achieving anything under the current owner. It might not be vocal but that's because they've got nothing to shout positively about. Easier to sit tight and do their 'duty' and then meet their mates in the pub afterwards before walking into the town to get lashed. The shit football was a minor inconvenience during a day/night out. That's totally different to football and football fans in the south/south east imho. Do they love their clubs any less? No. But the demographic is totally different in so much as the 'match' isn't woven into all elements of society in the way in the way it is in the NE, including Sunderland.

I disagree with that sorry. Most London clubs' fans are from the local areas and will drink/socialise around them (they have a sense of pride for their postcode), hence why we have so many bloody clubs in the big smoke. Spurs fans are a good example actually, they normally come from Tottenham/Wood Green/Barnet/Seven Sisters etc all of which are very close to WHL and with plenty of run down boozers to choose from Nah. I've lived down south for 14 years, at distances ranging 90 to 40 miles away from North London. In all of the places we've lived there's been Spurs fans who regularly go to games. Most of those guys jump on the train and have beers there in my experience. It's a totally different vibe to NUFC. One city, one club and a fervent support.

He's walked in every midfield he's been in. That's the problem with the fat cunt.

Yup.

How many goals have they conceded in games he's played in?

Aye, I'm saying he's deserved the slap tbf. Only target they hit all day.

Aye, fucking anus that he is. Acting like we've just turned over Chelsea having played like Brazil. The fucking bloke makes me sick. A spawny win against Leicester and he's up on his high horse again.

Granted but they've not got the amount of 'problems' they had last time. I still think they'll stay up.

Regardless of their humping today they're still set up better than us and have a system of play.

In not so sure mate. I'm sure you saw the state of Leicester today. Burnley and QPR are no better. I can see at least one of them scraping more points than us. Leicester will look shit but win a game every 4 fixtures and stay up. Leicester will go down imho. QPR though will spend money to stay up just like last time.

I'd bet you a large amount of $$$$$$'s that he does.

What a bizarre thing to say about someone who's just scored a winning goal for the team. I thought he did alright today like. One game doesn't erase many years of garbage performances imho. He's got no heart and his decision making is toss. It's his first goal for 2.5 years.

You get nowhere reliant on bottle-less cunts like Obertan. He's a fucking crock of shite man. The longer he's in the team the less hope we've got of winning games.

Aye. Jammy cunt. The good thing is that relying on weak as piss, soft hearted twats like Obertan can only give you so long. There's no long term in relying on the Obertan and Gouffrans of the world.

That Ulloa is never an £8m player. He's fucking garbage.

Horrible feeling that we'll win this............