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Duly noted. Just because it was noted doesnt mean i'm going to listen, seems like a fair discussion to me, or is this a debate free zone?! Has Rooney ever won the PL golden boot? To say his goalscoring record is second to none is based on what exactly? Clearly not an actual record.

Rich people are fat?

If it's Carragher, i'm putting a grand on Germany to qualify.

Damn right.

Our man of the match? Ok. Who got on the end of one chance all game and missed it. Defoe and Rooney would have run riot against that defence. Rooney has done f*** all in 3 games man.He was comfortably overshadowed by Heskey in both games they started together. Not in the second one he wasn't, they were equally bollocks.

Our man of the match? Ok. Who got on the end of one chance all game and missed it. Defoe and Rooney would have run riot against that defence.

If only we'd not played Heskey against this lot.

Fucking have it, you bastards!

Since I'm supporting an English team, I should probably support Man United as well then since they're also an English team. Eh? None of us here support Man U, you're missing the point completely.

I never said anyone should support England as such. Just respect the fact that Newcastle are an English team and most of us here are proud England supporters. There's been a few on here saying they'll support whoever England are playing.

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php So you don't see the difference? If folk are gonna come on here and pretend to be Newcastle fans, they should bloody well embrace English football and the national team. Ireland have now to do with this forum or the team we're all here for.

Which website was the Ireland thread on?

Bit rich coming from you that. Why's that?

That plus the sickening amount of anti-England fans posting in here.

We're talking about the players as they stand, right now. I acknowedge that Drogba has made steady progress while Rooney has stagnated somewhat in the last 5 years. But anyway, in the last 5 seasons, Drogba has a far better games to assists ratio in the league.

The stats are pretty overwhelming in terms of assists.

He scores and creates more, he's better. You were the one who replied to it.

No, don't be ridiculous. Age plays no part whatsoever in this argument. Rooney will be the better player in a couple of years but right now he's a fair way behind. As for Drogba being 'a nothing nobody until his mid-late 20's' - that's the kind of rubbish that should be omitted from these arguements. Mourinho paid £24m for him just after he turned 26.

Rooney's goalscoring record is second to none? Is this not the first season he's hit 20 in the league? This is the first season that Rooney's looked like a natural goalscorer. Drogba has scored more league goals in 3 of the last 4 seasons despite Rooney's recently instated penalty taking responsiblities.

He's the best by a distance now that Rio's legs have fallen off.

Who've I compared Lampard with?

He has been consistently one of the better attacking players in the england set up, I'd defy you to find atoo many who's outshone him in the england set up attackng wise. I mean he was the leading scorer in the WC qualifiers in the european qualifliers (Ithink) that shows a decent level of form. I know its a few years back but from what little i remeber he was decent in WC2006 and defiitely a star in 2004, thats 2 major tournaments where he's applied him self, more than 80% of the england squad. It's laughable saying that he's not in the same league, I'm not sure what difference there is between the repsective players to make them 'leagues apart' but I'd like to find out. This is coming from Drogba fan. Drogba is a lot more intelligent off the ball and a better finisher.

Yep.