Ronaldo

Nobody is saying that they are performing well.

Millionaire playboys who have both been described as the hardest workers at their clubs. This nonsense is becoming boring now.

Very easily done according to my lass.

Mccarthy's tactics worked though, they beat Burnley a few days later. Besides, just about the same Wolves team beat West Ham 3-1 at Upton Park.

Having promise and not living up to it is worse than not having it in the first place. Rooney's been utter cr*p thus far, even allowing for the poor service. Your point being?

Hilarious innit? I know he was only a patch on Lampard's performances though. It is, Hargreaves was praised to high heaven after that tournament.

You lot are pathetic at times.

Who are the half a dozen?

Put him face to face with someone who isn't wearing a gold cross and an alice band and we'd see what he actually is, a massive coward.

Not quite, Danielle De Rossi deserves that accolade.

The above happened in the final 5 minutes of the Algeria game when Defoe and Crouch were on the pitch, positive positions. Capello has nobody else to blame but himself for picking the wrong players.

Unsung.

Tend to agree with HTT.

Great, let's drop Rooney for Crouch then while we're at it.

We wouldn't as he was still in his self imposed exile then. He'd have never retired if not for the likes of Terry keeping him out of the team.

Carrick ahead of Lampard, says it all about you, really does.

Thank christ we have John Terry. Otherwise we'd have probably given Carragher a starting role in the qualifiers, and we wouldn't have even made it to South Africa.

Not sure why you've quoted that post. Lampard wasn't our penalty taker in 2004. Barry Lennon Lampard Gerrard Cole Rooney

How many weren't pens? Why would they be pens?

He plays for Chelsea, the team is absolutely full of stars. Gerrard, fair point.

Typical elitist rubbish. He's bought very well with very limited funds.

can you quantify that Dave? Do you mean statistically? I can't be bothered to look it up to be perfectly honest, I just feel far more let down by Gerrard over the years considering what he has done for Liverpool in the same timeframe. Gerrard was worldclass against Germany 5-1. Apart from that neither Gerrard & Lampard have really done anything of note for me. Short memory. Lampard was easily the driving force behind WC 06 qualification. Not to mention his excellent performances in Euro 04. and when the major tournament games came around? Read it again, Shakespeare.

can you quantify that Dave? Do you mean statistically? I can't be bothered to look it up to be perfectly honest, I just feel far more let down by Gerrard over the years considering what he has done for Liverpool in the same timeframe. well i'm the same but the other way, FL has scored 20+ goals in the PL for 5 seasons running 5 seasons he couldn't hit a 10 yard pass against the states domestic and international football are 2 different things In what way?

can you quantify that Dave? Do you mean statistically? I can't be bothered to look it up to be perfectly honest, I just feel far more let down by Gerrard over the years considering what he has done for Liverpool in the same timeframe. Gerrard was worldclass against Germany 5-1. Apart from that neither Gerrard & Lampard have really done anything of note for me. Short memory. Lampard was easily the driving force behind WC 06 qualification. Not to mention his excellent performances in Euro 04.

I'll call shenanigans on Lampard then, probably Terry too. Cappello, who has won almost everything in the game of football, can't make Lampard work at International level neither could all of the other previous managers...so it's them is it? And not Frank. It's only Steve Mac and Capello who've failed. Lampard scored and created a lot under Sven. In which major tournaments? 1 out of 2. when did he perform? what games did he run and win for us? i know we've been here before but he doesn't have the right stuff for international football ( as an Englishman) no matter how much you try to say he does He doesn't have the right stuff for Algeria and USA but consistently gets more goals and assists than anyone from midfield in the world's best league? It's utter tripe, man. Give him the freedom to play higher up the park and he'll excel. gah! you've actually just said "the worlds best league", and meant it wow ok...so what excuses him then? seriously 'cause he can't pass or score or even be dangerous...it truly eludes me what he offers when not playing for chelsea, and that goes for Terry too. Now you're taking the piss. Show me a better English CB than Terry who isn't Rio Ferdinand.