Ronaldo

He needs a lot of time to get those chances

There's a reason that none of the top clubs in europe have players as limited as Owen in their team lads

If they sign Luis Fabiano there's no chance he'll be in the first Xl tbh. As a bench player i dont think he'll be that effective. One of those players who need an awful lot of time on the pitch to put the ball in the net, even against tired legs

Bit harsh. I'd say from Euro 2004 euro 2000, 1 goal world cup 2002, 2 goals none in the group stages euro 2004, 1 goal none in the group stages world cup 2006, no goals absolutely

it's something that the media has always overlooked, Post-1998 he's let England down badly in the tournaments I honestly don't know how he does it, his reputation is an absolute sham

to be fair, if he cant motivate himself to play for a team with the kind of support we demonstrated against Villa, how the fuck is going to do it for those souless wankers. Of course, i'm sure the pay as you play deal might help somewhat

I'm looking forward to the day that Liverpool turn them over again

I'm trying to be as objective in my appraisal of Martins as possible. Are we really giving the lad no credit whatsoever to playing with a injury for the good of the team?

1 season out of 7 makes the lad injury prone. It's premature to call him that

In terms of him being finished, it's probably best to judge him on his performances next season. He has lost his pace, but his other attributes are still there (remember the % conversion stat). In terms of his hight, it's never handicapped him. His movement and judgement has lead to him scoring plenty of headed goals. His knees, well that's very relevant. You're right about that and it's the crunch for his entire future in football. All depends on his knees. Oh and don't forget Shearer adapted his game brilliantly (well so did the entire playing mentality of the team) when he lost his pace. Now I'm not saying Owen is a dead cert to do the same, but he has other attributes which mean he could. like what?

I don't think that he said he wanted him to do well (he might, I can't speak for him) but he said he thinks he will do, in a team with better service. Learn to read Dreseden has said or strongly implied in the past that he wants Owen to do well in the future, nowt to do with reading

Over the three seasons he's been at the club, he's missed enough games to niggly groin strains and similar injuries to be classed as injury prone... especially this last season. Take your fan boy specs off for a minute He was injury prone last season, fair enough. But nobody was calling him injury prone last July, were they?

Why dont list all these injuries then? Honestly, I swear some members of this forum come straight from rehab

I'd question the loyalty of any nufc fan who wants the little cunt to do well

How on earth does one season make a player injury prone? Was anyone calling Shearer injury in 2001 after he'd basically missed 2 out of the last 4 seasons

that justifies Owen not even managing 1 in 3 in the premiership from open play does it? 22 goals in 71 games is a shocking record for a self-proclaimed 'goalscorer' Give it up man

Martins missed at most a combined 10 games through injury in his first 2 season here. How in the name of christ does that make him injury prone?

well why didn't you say that then? 26 in 71 in the premiership? Aye, that's close to 1 in 2. :lol: What a f***ing record god job he chipped in with 1 assist in those 71 games eh, otherwise we'd really have been f***ed

The injury prone notion is nonsense, he's only had 1 bad season in terms of injuries [/size I disagree, always seems to have some little niggle that keeps him out for more time than it should. Yes, last season. Doesn't make him inury prone

massive success for a player who proved during his time here that he wasn't anywhere near up to it against the good defenders, get a fucking grip Close to 1 in 2 in the premiership? How is 8 goals in 28 close to 1 in 2?

The injury prone notion is nonsense, he's only had 1 bad season in terms of injuries

What are those idiots doing? There are so many very good players they could afford, yet they waste their time with the untouchables, it's basically posturing from this sheik wankers, except nobody's fucking impressed

It's hardly panic buying, still a whole month left and no doubt from that Ronaldo money he has agents on the phone to him every other minute. Owen got 19 premiership goals once upon a time. Clearly Ferguson with his giant ego believing he can get Owen back to that. Laughable if he gives Owen a contract after offloading Ruud Van Nistelrooj 2 years back. A player basically ten times better than Owen and a better goalscorer to boot

Sol Campbell is destined to play for us one day tbh, probably when Shearer is confirmed. If only we'd signed him 3 years ago

We'll see if it's true. I certainly cant see him starting with Rooney. Ferguson all out of ideas and options tbh