Ronaldo

we all know this mate, it's actually been obvious since we scraped a win against Bolton at home in August. Probably before that in fact

The sad thing is people would rather see players who work hard rather than the one's who have got actual quality....what i'd give to have someone like Robert in the team just now, we'd be nowhere near the relegation places! I reckon Robert's the type of player you'd want to stay away from relegation, but not while you're in the fight against it. considering we finished 03-04 on 56 points, had Robert not scored all those goals and made those 40 something passes that led to goals we WOULD have been in a relgation battle

They scored ,you klutz.They wouldn't have would they,if the penalty hadn't had been given. and the score would have remained at 0-0 where are you getting 2-0 from?

which occured at 0-0 honestly, what a load of shite

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Actually we more than matched fulham today. First half we were poor but we were much the better side in the 2nd and deserved to get something out of the game. We had more possesion and more teritorial advantage, according to the stats. It was an absolutely shocking decision by webb, there was not enough there to give a foul and it has cost us our PL status. I'm not absolving the players totally from blame here, as they've got us into this position, but Webb has played a huge part in sending us down. Have a f***ing word . Howard Webb will play no part in us getting relegated, fact is we should have scored with all this 'posession and teritorial advantage'. We should have been better than we were, end of. Plus there's the other 37 games you play in a season. How about you stfu !! Did you even read what I said, we deserved something out of the game we had the possesion, territory and the best chances. Yes of course if we played even better we would have got the result we needed, no s*** sherlock ! Webb has had a huge part to play in sending us down, if you think that is a crazy statement to make, as you suggest, then you are proving to be a complete blithering idiot. Maybe you should be the one having a word with yourselves lol lol lol Oh and the "pls 37 other games s***. Again did you read my post "I'm not absolving the players totally from blame here, as they've got us into this position", ffs reading comprehension ftw. I'm a blithering idiot because I don't think a referee that made ONE controversial decision to disallow a goal in ONE game of a THIRTY EIGHT game season is sending us down? Aye, ok Forget the points we threw away against Stoke, Wigan and Man City at home. Forget the chances we had to beat Pompey. Forget the chances we had to score a goal today. Forget the two guilt-edge opportunities Martins should have buried, and the stupid mistake from Bassong to get sent off, the bad positioning of Taylor to play their goal onside - The thing that's playing a big hand in sending us down is a disallowed goal from Howard Webb! Come off it Jonny,The Man City game we played 70 minutes with 10 men due to another refereeing f*** up. Aye, but we were still 2-1 up with 5 minutes to go. Same with the Wigan and Stoke games. 10 men or not, we could have kept onto the lead without a defensive error. My point is,without the disgraceful decision to send off Beye,we would have been 2-0 up with 11 men,the other games you mention,you are correct,to throw away 2 goal leads at home is f***ing criminal. we would have been 2-0 up? how do you know that?

it's all Howard Webbs fault that our play under Kinnear and Shearer has represented just about the most ineffective and worst to watch in the league

Probably more down to his effort over the season. A player can't really help it is he's not good enough, but he can try his hardest. If Robert had tried as hard / run as much as Jonas he could have been a genuine great. for the season in question he managed 12 goals and something like 40 passes leading to goals. Guttierez has managed one assist and will NEVER score for us, running rarely works when you do most of it into the wrong areas No-one said it did. And he has got more than one assist. Edit- As for Robert-Jonas comparisons, the most assists Robert got in one season was 7, Jonas has 3 this season. Source- ESPN Soccernet he probably had 7 assists by september in the 03-04 season

I said it early in the season, he spends far too much time playing deep and trying to run into attacking positions, predictable, ineffective, easy to defend, especially when him having the ball in an attacking position only guarentees the end of the attack

if we go into another season with Butt nailed on in the starting lineup i'll sell my bastarding season ticket

Probably more down to his effort over the season. A player can't really help it is he's not good enough, but he can try his hardest. If Robert had tried as hard / run as much as Jonas he could have been a genuine great. for the season in question he managed 12 goals and something like 40 passes leading to goals. Guttierez has managed one assist and will NEVER score for us, running rarely works when you do most of it into the wrong areas

all out attack. We cant play patient football

Jonas should hang his head in shame. To think Robert was booed off 5 years ago yet the usless Jonas recieved warm applause

9 we're done for

he was absolutely abysmal, gave the ball away countless times all game, as he's done all season

you consider Owen a good finisher yet he's managed to miss every decent chance he's got in the last 10 games

correct An UNDERStatement actually And Butt - Butt actually didn't have a bad game - plenty around who were a LOT worse. And Libertine - the fat feller reminded me of three baldy fat morons in Burger King opp the O2 Academy today at 2 o'clock stuffing their faces and belching loudly, and farting and thinking they were hilariously funny They had Newcastle scarves on. So - it's not just the players who were moronic, and an insult to the colours today..... you're having a f***ing laugh mate, clearly didn't see the game

Bet you wouldn't even be posting on here if he scored from that last gasp effort =P (It was him, right?) well i've been saying he's shite all season, so you work it out

that it was a crap finish, basically, it was a tight angle

i'd get rid of about 80% of the squad

I dont know about the first because it was at the other end of the ground but the second you cant call s*** , he did well

what a ridiculous thread

your pal Owen wouldn't have been in a position to get those chances, which is why most had rather have Martins anyday of the week

How does Butt do it man? the first name on the teamsheet every week and never a hint of him being substituted, it's absolutely sickening utterly useless cunt