Ronaldo

Miguel, Trabelsi, Oddo, even Young

Ronaldo, Christian Vieri, Inzaghi

For a very big man Gooch seems to be king of the amateurish header, Taylor's goal being a case in point

in all fairness to Bow, he's being given a deeper role for West Ham, and has been unclucky with injuries this season btw, who was our last CM who managed 7 goals in a season? and before that?

I agree, apart from what's bolded. He doesn't have to compare to Pele to truly be one of the greats of our game. He needs to consistently perform for the next few years and influence a major tournement in a big way (not just through non-footballing methods) before he will be a top class player. Even then Cruyff and Zidane really do and will eat his skills with ease. Veron? Would you have a manger that makes so few mistakes ? And Veron wasnt that bad, either. If he's the worst.... Well you just said he never seems to fail but for the price tag surely Veron was a failure? Not to forget Kleberson, Djemba Djemba, Taibi and Carrick (who I am repulsed by quite frankly, as a footballer). including Carrick in that list is mental, the guy is pure class

Shearer in his prime was for me the best all-round centre-forward on the planet so therefore is one of the best players I've ever seen. Yes he lacked Ronaldo's skill and pace but Ronaldo lacked his strength, heading ability and general leading of the line. People underestimate just how good Shearer was. Me, if I could choose between a Shearer or a Ronaldo in their pomp, I'd go for Shearer, more of a team player, braver and lead the line far better, would get you a goal from his head, right, left, set-piece or off his arse. Ronaldo, if he wasn't scoring or getting at teams, was pretty ineffective. Just my opinions though. when both Ronaldo and Shearer were in their prime (96 i reckon for Shearer) I think Ronaldo was clearly the strongest of the two when Shearer lost his pace and started hitting the gym his strength may have been a match for Ronaldo's, but i doubt it. In fact doesn't Robson's book refer to Ronaldo looking, as being as strong 'as a boxer' SBR made Ronaldo sit down and watch videos of Shearer leading the line, heading etc. so even he knew who was the better all-round striker, as for strength, I think Shearer was stronger myself, Ronaldo was the stronger runner but Shearer often held two markers in his pomp with ease. In Euro 96 there is a moment when Nadal and another Spanish player try to bully Shearer off the ball, but Shearer with his back to them helf firm before turning them and pulling it back for Sheringham I think, and the look on the Spanish players faces was one of "f****** hell". let's not forget that Ronaldo was probably 20ish then whilst Shearer was 27. Robson strongly suggests in his book that Ronaldo was the world's best player at that time anyway as it happens if Ronaldo's intelligence for the game had coincided with his fantastic physical attributes in his early 20's this thread wouldn't exist. or maybe it did, WC 2002, 8 goals.....

my christ, the players washing their own kit, what the fuck was going on?

Shearer in his prime was for me the best all-round centre-forward on the planet so therefore is one of the best players I've ever seen. Yes he lacked Ronaldo's skill and pace but Ronaldo lacked his strength, heading ability and general leading of the line. People underestimate just how good Shearer was. Me, if I could choose between a Shearer or a Ronaldo in their pomp, I'd go for Shearer, more of a team player, braver and lead the line far better, would get you a goal from his head, right, left, set-piece or off his arse. Ronaldo, if he wasn't scoring or getting at teams, was pretty ineffective. Just my opinions though. when both Ronaldo and Shearer were in their prime (96 i reckon for Shearer) I think Ronaldo was clearly the strongest of the two when Shearer lost his pace and started hitting the gym his strength may have been a match for Ronaldo's, but i doubt it. In fact doesn't Robson's book refer to Ronaldo looking, as being as strong 'as a boxer'

to be honest, how HTT can rank Shearer alongside THE Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and Zidane is beyond me THE Ronaldo 10 years ago was better than CRonaldo now

He was s****. in one game? your point being? And Krul was f****** class in one game. If he's the first choice, Krul must be in with a shout of pipping him to that spot sooner or later! you're actually proving my point with that first bit

He was s****. in one game? your point being?

Paddy Kenny, right? you shagged his wife and then bit his eyebrow off, scumbag

not quite true, he was in the car park at Boro's training facility waiting for permission to hit the A19

have people forgotten Alkmaar? have people forgotten how disastrous it can be to play unproven right footed CB's at LB ffs? if he's a poor - average LB, he's a major f****** improvement

indeed

top bloke to be honest

you call him fat? is there anyone on this board who wouldn't bet that he'd anihilate you in any sort of physical activity As a professional footballer, he's a heavy (fat) c***. Its nowt to do with ME, its to do with his incredible lack of ability as a footballer. He's a fat, rubbish, waste of space w******. 14 stone 4 seems about right for a 6'2" guy. I'm the same height and only a stone less, people call me slender. No need for the personal insults. As a footballer say what you want about him.

er, that he was diagnosed with glandular fever a year ago the fuck?

you call him fat? is there anyone on this board who wouldn't bet that he'd anihilate you in any sort of physical activity

fuck off Roeder, you piece of cockney imcompetent bollocks, and take Carr, Onyewu, Parker and Duff with you, TWTA

which fool said 1st choice RW?

bollocks to Gooch, i haven't seen him make one good tackle yet to be honest

classic partridge that

Rang one off the woodwork vs. Chelski. He can do it, he's the super sib! the phrase 'even a broken clock is right twice a day' springs to mind and Sib has been hit a sledgehammer and run over by a Hummer H2

Sibierski to score against a decent defence? hmmmm