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What happens if take over does go through but a sustainable 80/100 million a window is spent being minted doesn't mean they gonna spend especially as other areas such as training ground and the ground itself need more than a few pennies.

I don't see how even with all the money in the world you could instantly build a title trophy winning team anyway. The league has changed so much from when say Chelsea "bought" success. Even newly promoted teams can spunk 30/40 million on a player. You need a boss who can manage and gel together a pampered lot into a unit. We aren't needing 1 or 2 additions. Years of under investment has seen clubs pass us by. With every window they too strength widening that gap. We need a long term plan to get a core team together and then add those quality players in window by window cycling out failed and aged acquisitions you know like a good/normal club should.

18 months more of Bruce to wait for Rafa or get someone else in and risk Rafa retiring after his China stint?

We didn’t play bad football under Rafa by any means. Perhaps it was more defensive than many would have liked, but defensive =/= bad. effective yes but at times frustrating allowing the other team to have alot of the ball and still feel comfortable you do have to admire its what stopped us getting battered even when outclassed. However its not the same as free flowing attacking football making the team work so hard as they are chasing shadows. We never got that at all with rafa but as I said previously what tools did he have and even when he did sign players he admitted himself he gave the board 3 levels of purchase high, medium, and meth and to be fair most of the time it was category 3 or my personal fav category 4 (you get what your given we spent the money on agent fees).

this 100% at the end of the day rafa did well with twenty pence and a fuck load of non committal from a non existent board and still managed to make us look stable, I am sure he wanted to do more but was making us the most effective unit he had with the tools he had available. Give the man money, a long term goal and he will do his best to see it happen if its within his power. He would also fit in nicely with an ownership that wants to spread its wings out in the community in terms of engagement and good will.

You also have to factor in the "type of player" the manager that hopefully comes in like and wants what we consider our best 11 is not "their" best 11 sort of thing.

Unfortunately we wont be spending 300/400 million in one transfer window and it wouldnt be the wisest approach anyway. One or two strikers/number 10 upgrade right and left backs and see how it goes from there. Again all guess work based on the rate of rebuild and who we bring in management wise and any restrictions such as player sales, freeing of squad numbers, which players are allowed a second chance etc.

I think you have to be realistic on what can be done in a couple of transfer windows as not all the players we have are really "saleable assets" so it becomes a squad cohesion and squad number issue as well as a phasing out and replacing exercise. It also depends on budget while we may think they are coming in to spend a mint they might not be and say the budget is 70/100 million a window that in todays market is spent badly can get you shite that everton/Fulham etc have gotten or it could get you 1/2/3 max good players. The need of a top manager who knows how to build a squad effectively from scratch is the best way forward.

Will be interesting to see what some of these players are actually like, when everything around them is professionally ran and a quality manager is in place. bringing in a striker that throughout his career has never been prolific while he is young and a good manager can get more out of him would you really want him in the side week in week out when we could and should get better in?

wonder what we can do with Joelinton? send him on loan, sell him for the 8million he is actually worth or keep him to clean the boots and help pat down the turf?

Why not Where do you think Bruce would take Newcastle, even with financial backing? Not very far! If you read my post properly I did say until the end of the season. Of course I want him out after then! I would say it may depend on if the new owners have already earmarked and potentially spoken with DOF/manager slots as if they have already done so then that team can already start planning/plotting out what to do. If the new owners/board have not thought that far ahead or already have a mind boggling amount of things to sort I can see a small argument in the very short term to keep at least this side of things the same. Also depends on when/if this season ends when transfers will be allowed etc.

back to the Freddie Shepherd days where the top 3/6 all go for a player and we just out bid them, will work for some players who don't already earn a mint and want to move to the best terms/deal. Will fail for others where we don't have any recent success and aren't in champions league etc. Start small and grow from there, if you find yourself in a position where you have over performed don't make our mistake and instantly build/capitalise on it so we don't slip backwards. As mentioned time and time again this approach while wont breed instant success is like night and day compared to the sloth like plodding we have been doing for years.

the only thing that gives me a little hope is the wobblers ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea (to an extent) means that anyone can be caught but to stop being a one season wonder you have to have a game plan short and medium term getting your manager correct on the first try is hard/impossible but need a top calibre as to begin with the line "who would want to come to Newcastle" will be hard to shrug off unless we just start offering the most wages/packages and risk getting a bunch of mercenaries. I am glad I am only here for the ride and not the task at hand as make no mistake its mammoth, money needs to be spent everywhere management, facilities, scouting, recruitment etc etc

The need for home grown players will ensure some will stick around for years to come who are young enough and good enough. All comes down to the vision of the club going forward on the medium and long term do we buy "ready developed" players off the shelf so to speak and spend more. Do we nurture young talent and have a large scale recruitment of 16-19 year olds who can step up?. Do we do a bit of both? Some managers don't seem capable of bringing up new and emerging talents which depending on how realistic a budget we were to have may not be an issue. Also as we are working with the bare bones in terms of talent its all going to be a long haul thing regardless what we do as you need to ensure some harmony with the current squad and have to start having some success to attract a certain calibre of player (thinking medium term here were some players will not move unless you have European football). I have spent so many years thinking well he will do as he is "good enough" that I don't know what it will be like to try and say no we want better, that matra means anyone in our squad is upgrade worthy but again comes down to the speed in which we can/should change.

Saw Peter Beardsley getting fuel at asda metro 69 plate Audi Q7 not on a private plate. Was surprised by how old he was looking even had an old man shuffle going on

I think what annoys me about the pair is the phrase "we understand" or "we are hearing" etc is actually someone else's article or information rebranded with that sentence and not much more, in other words pointless.

Dead wood on long or lucrative contracts or injured or if anyone has bid for them it's so low the club would rather have them around just incase

Our policy is all about a gamble pluck someone from a foreign league either with a clause or a flaw and hope they turn good to sell on. Issue is if it goes badly we also like to offer 5 year deals which helps us have a strong hand negotiating with the buying club if it goes well. However the opposite to that is you have players going out on multiple loans colback, arrons saviet etc. Not part of any squad plan no place but continuing to being a drain on the clubs finances both in wages and in money on transfer never recuperate even in part.

Because socks and lines have already been used.....

If he is here to upgrade yedlin baring inmind Soviet and colback are unwanted and not in the 25 man squad other than paying for dead weight which may be used as an excuse to spend less I don't see an issue

Cant believe we may have offered a more lucrative deal either in terms of fee or wages for anyone to be fair

Yup https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/steve-bruce-gives-transfer-update-newcastle-united-1372092

It's ok Bruce no need for strikers we playing well: "If somebody better can improve the squad, then I’ll try and grab. But what’s the point if Andy Carroll and Dwight Gayle and (Yoshinori) Muto are going to be fit in the next two or three weeks? What’s the point of just bringing in someone if they’re not going to be any better? I’m going to be patient.”

I wonder if this is the "exciting" under the radar signing mentioned by Douglas over the weekend got to admit if it is it is under whelming.

Don't with Dummett and Willems out for the season now. If we get this guy and Valentino that's those two places gone, still think we need a left back and a striker meaning we need 2 more places. Not disagreeing we should improve on the squad with every window if we can but with the deadwood the club would like to go away being hard to shift or being injured unless we have players we know are due to go before the end of the window it does still meaning unregistering and paying players for the rest of the season.