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god damn missed msot of it ggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

he's as Irish as Vinny Jones is Welsh.

Goals to games or shots to goals?

I dunno, our reserves would beat them, and they probably will. We could play them at the same time.

I think he's s****, and probably overweight or carrying a bit too much for his diminutive frame. Against Arsenal I thought the mackems actually defended well and when they did get on the ball, worked it well enough. They just lack a true cutting edge in midfield and up front. Add Bent and Gyan to that side and a playmaker in midfield and they would be a much more different propersition. As it is they have no creativity in midfield and not attack up front to speak of, not without Bendtner anyway. For the money they have spent though they have done really badly in terms of players signed. The Man Utd duo of Brown and O'Shea look off the pace. I remember Brown was quick and adaptable but from what I've seen he's cumbersome and doesn't look sharp. O'Shea used to be quite comfortable on the ball for a defender and a good reader of the game but he hoofs it a lot and gets himself lost in position. Could be down to confidence, tactics or even the culture shock that I believe Nicky Butt struggled with moving from Manchester to Newcastle at first, or it could be they are simply past it. There is a hard working, defensively strong, mid-table side in there for them but given their expectations (NETD's and all that, CL winners etc.) and the money they have spent, I think mid-table is a poor return. parts of it are confidence, parts of it maybe tactics. They used to be managed by probably the best manager the world has ever seen, now they have Steve Bruce. Ferguson can make reasonable players look very good and good players look great. We've seen the with Butt the difference Ferguson makes, with them he was very good, when he came to us he was shocking generally. Playing with 9 or 10 of the worlds best can make you look good because others will make up for you mistake. Playing with 9 or 10 mediocre players make even the best look crap unless they are an enigma in a free role. Plus sunderland are f***ing s**** in general. I was reading this without really thinking and started to wonder that do you mean Keane or Reid or who? I mean brown and o Shea used to be managed by SAF

I think he's shite, and probably overweight or carrying a bit too much for his diminutive frame. Against Arsenal I thought the mackems actually defended well and when they did get on the ball, worked it well enough. They just lack a true cutting edge in midfield and up front. Add Bent and Gyan to that side and a playmaker in midfield and they would be a much more different propersition. As it is they have no creativity in midfield and not attack up front to speak of, not without Bendtner anyway. For the money they have spent though they have done really badly in terms of players signed. The Man Utd duo of Brown and O'Shea look off the pace. I remember Brown was quick and adaptable but from what I've seen he's cumbersome and doesn't look sharp. O'Shea used to be quite comfortable on the ball for a defender and a good reader of the game but he hoofs it a lot and gets himself lost in position. Could be down to confidence, tactics or even the culture shock that I believe Nicky Butt struggled with moving from Manchester to Newcastle at first, or it could be they are simply past it. There is a hard working, defensively strong, mid-table side in there for them but given their expectations (NETD's and all that, CL winners etc.) and the money they have spent, I think mid-table is a poor return. parts of it are confidence, parts of it maybe tactics. They used to be managed by probably the best manager the world has ever seen, now they have Steve Bruce. Ferguson can make reasonable players look very good and good players look great. We've seen the with Butt the difference Ferguson makes, with them he was very good, when he came to us he was shocking generally. Playing with 9 or 10 of the worlds best can make you look good because others will make up for you mistake. Playing with 9 or 10 mediocre players make even the best look crap unless they are an enigma in a free role. Plus sunderland are fucking shite in general.

With his performances so far and Best's performances. If we were to sign one player in january a left back would be my choice.

We win games we should win now and draw games we should lose, those we should draw we win.

I think what has shocked alot if the media is our performances and also now they can be arsed to do research and realise the players we have signed are not all french journeymen, but ones who are held in high esteem by their countries media. Thing that worries me though is that whats up with Marveaux, I often wonder if Pardew has a problem with his training or something, can't think of a reason why we haven't seen him more despite his clear ability.

Tell that to a certain Mr Usain Bolt or Godzilla

http://media.hof.wemakemedia.co.uk/cache/8594_display.jpg RTG has a Canadian correspondant while Newcastle-Online hasn't. Let get Bret Hart as our correspondant, I'll mail him he doesnt seem to be up to much nowadays.

Itll take him a while to get back to his best, in that game though it was not his ability that let him down, its the fact he sees us doing great and he wants to be our best player. Which ability wise he is, he just wanted to remind us hes here and tried to much. Once he scores a goal and is starting each game hell settle down and we'll haev one of the best players in the league on our hands whether he can be consistent I have no idea. Well see sunday was just him trying to show us how great he is but he took it too far and is a bit rusty.

Or Ameobi and Ben Arfa?

Was just thinking anyone who says on bothe sides they dont care how the other is doing is a liar. They rpove it by the number of threads they have about us, we prove it by this thread, we never used to have as active a thread as this before they started finishing higher than us ( I mean in recent years), when we outdo them over a couple years Im sure tbh well not care what they are doing, maybe laugh at them from time to time, but we cant deny atm it feels nice after the tirade of abuse theyve issued last few years, even over the summer. "We've signed 300'000 players and they all have champions league medals and the scum have signed a load of french nomarks" though now its more like "We've signed 300'000 players and they all have champions league medals, gold is very high atm, we should see if they would all sell them so we can buy Bent back"

This will never happen, because it would basically make every club outside the prem go bust.

where is wireside?

Changed his fucking tune, the fat twat. Don't worry, it'll be "Hahaha, Newcastle thought they were going to get into the Champions League" soon enough. Yep theyll replay calls from the tools they probably pay to portray the retardation factor. I am sure SSN pay people to act like tools whenever anything happens.

I dont think we should change our system to much tbh, Just start him on the right or up front.

ashley is a betting man so if he sees us still up at the top near jan he might take a punt and bring a couple in if he thinks we have a cats chance in hell to get into the cl, which I doubt we will but you never know.

hes got the ability I think most likely surprisingly enough, I've never encountered a player like him before, most similar was Wanchope, Idk maybe could have been a great player, maybe not seems to go through spells where he's outstanding. Im not sure anyone can work him out tbh. Most of the recent seasons hes been carrying an injury, maybe pardew has him fit and this is the real shola, IDK. He confuses me more than any other player in world football.

I was listening to 5 live pisses me off the tools that ring up, one of them was even a cockney claiming to be a fan of us saying we should finish in top 4.

9-0, martinez' last game in charge of wigan.

Shola was freakin awesome

good result, glad to see ben Arfa back but felt he wanted to show he was back and probably cost us momentum on a number of occasions. Seemed like he was purely focussed on scoring the winner.

Now maybe we may see be arfa