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Questions. 1. Have you got the receipt? 2. We don't accept returns on goods beyond 28 days. We may, however, be able to issue you with a credit note, with the strict proviso that you use it yo buy Steve Sidwell. He'd be an improvement would Sidwell. Is he turning out to be a one season wonder like Shorey? No just got the disease that being a reserve at Chelsea gives you, A la Geremi, bridge, Parker et al.

Bit of a stupid objection from them really, you don't need to have 100% concrete proof, you just need a decision by committee. Oh yeah I know, but I can see the argument, provided Fellaini doesn't mean it then its a foul but not a sending off or suspendable offence. Maybe they should polygraph him to find if he does it intentionally.

How can you say if it ahd been Xisco then we would have called him Lazy then? If he put in a shift like Ranger you couldn't say that unless you were blind.

Was listening to talkshite last night and they said you can never be sure if there is intent there so hearings for example if they did one for Fellaini's elbows would never be very accurate. Polygraph test the bastards if they have a disciplinary hearing.

A)Xisco is lazy b)Ranger is one of the least lazy strikers I have seen for years. You clearly have never seen rangerplay if you would consider him lazy

Aye, itll be on loan though, he'd be canny in the prem as well but if poss I'd look at getting Beye back if we go up. He is out of contract at the end of the season, Man Ure may look at trying to get a bit of dosh now rather than see him go for nowt at the end of the season. True but they aint gonna get it out of ashley unless its say 300k

AYe Harper is canny, Goalkeeper is that last position we need to strengthen, by the time he's over the hill Krul will be ready to go.

Aye, itll be on loan though, he'd be canny in the prem as well but if poss I'd look at getting Beye back if we go up.

Yeah, I thought that he would make a great winger, he's our most creative player from Leftback so push him up and he'll be able to do more. Quite wuick, good cross and looks like he ahs a decent shot just never gets into positions to shoot. Should take our corners imo, he's our best crosser

Totally disagree. He is a Championship level keeper. He's better than most in the prem tbf. I'd say he's better than the likes of Foster, Gomes, Myhill, Hahnemann etc.

Still can't see this, they'll need about 300M at least realistically. Plus I can't see many pesion schemes investing in a football club. You'd have to be mental to put all that money at stake on the onus of making a profit, you'd have more chance going to Vegas and sticking it all on black.

Harper Simpson Taylor Colo The Rampaging Bull Pancreas Smith Nolan Jonas Loven Harewood. Well shit em - 4-0 Not 100% sure about just having Nolan and Smith Central though, even though Guthrie plays as a winger he cuts in a hell of a lot, but well have enough going forward not to worry about them too much.

To the tune of Corned beef from Phoenix Nights. Faaab rice Pancrates a Winger It's Faaab Rice He's even better than Silva It's Faab Rice Why don't you try a Pork Pie

When is he fit?

Agreed...but sometimes it bugs me when it's something blatant that they claim is legit. I'm presuming someone's done Alan Green already. I was in England for the first time this season at the weekend and saw the Football League Show (or whatever it's called). You can add a pet hate of whichever divot fails to appreciate that all fans really want to see on TV is as much of the match as possible. The old Football League goals show that ITV used to have on at 3 in the morning was miles better. What I don't understand about that show is the bloody games they pick to have on for half the show, its always 0-0 or 1-1 or 1-0. Can they not pick the feature game when they know the score, bloody ridiculous. Also why waste time on that bald bloke talking to fans or whetever, show us more of the bloody match.

What about any NUFC player to score in the last game of last season? This season then, my bad Duff scored in our last game of last season... True but he was never an NUFC player in my eyes.

Nope, match has to finish.

What about any NUFC player to score in the last game of last season?

Still has St James' Park as the venue

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I thought that was the name of Boca v River. It was probably f***ing Sky. Yeah, that was my impression too. But it's starting to get used in the press around here (f***ing Marca), although it really has zero tradition. We don't really have a story of naming our derbies/rivalry matches like you do. We'll I wouldn't say we named them. The Tyne/Wear derby represents the areas both teams reside in. Can't think of a one with a name tbh?

You're probably right

You're such a card. Who'd would've thought of using an inaccurate stereotype Sky have perpetuated against there own fans? I'm just joking about that bit really, is a bit true though, most of my mates talk absoulte bollocks as does my dad, my dad thinks Nicky Butt should start for the experience for example. ONly people I hear that talk sense really are on here. You're taking the piss, aye? I don't agree with most supporters either. If I had my way i'd have Jonas taken out the back of the training ground and beat with a stick until he learned how to float in a decent cross although i've realised i'm in a minority. I, like you, have also suffered an earbashing at the hands of one of the few Nicky Butt fans still out there (it might've been your Dad. If so tell him he's a c***). Do these experiences mean I'm against fan ownership? No, because I respect the fact that they, like me, have a vested emotional (and if NUST get their way, financial) interest in the club. I'd much rather disagree with people who I know have put their time and money into this football club over the years rather than a bloated billionaire with no attachment. Aye, was a slight jest. I'm not saying I wouldn't have this over Ashley, I just don't think it will work A) I don't think they'll raise the money. B) Do any of these people havea clue about running a 300M investment. C) We'll make Kneejerk and rash decisions and we'll spend whatever money we raise in the first window. That's fair enough I suppose. They're all valid reasons to be unsure about any potential fan takeover. I see it this way - if they don't make enough money then there is no harm done so it's not really something to worry too much about. To combat the last two points I personally would be hoping the fans would elect a President ala Barca. When 'fan ownership' is uttered I think a lot of people assume Paul from Row M suddenly is going to be given the day to day running of the club and that's that. In reality I imagine we'd see a Newcastle fan with the knowledge and personal experience, someone like Barry Moat or Graham Wylie, voted in and given a set term running the club. Obviously i'm not involved with any of this work so it's all speculation on my part but that's personally how I see it working. From what it sounds like it does infer that members will all have avote on major decisions. I would be happy with this structure if it was basically run like a normal football club where the Chairman basically makes most of the decisions but is answerable to the board. Personally I don't think it matters whether the Chairman is from Newcastle either in fact I'd prefer if he wasn't, I'd like someone who has already been a chairman or MD before like David Dein (Dreamworld). I think a freh perspective would help. I can't see the 'vote on every issue' thing being workable in the real world. It takes too long. Maybe for stuff such as kit supplier, sponsors, pie and pint prices etc. but not for transfers and the like. I suppose we'll not know the full details until Monday, possibly later. Yeah I know day to day decisions wont be made like that but say manager changes will, I just think itll be kneejerktastic tbh, like I said we'll get through so many managers. Our high management turnover over the past few years was due to mistakes by the board rather than fan pressure. Robson - Sacked at the wrong time. Majority of fans wanted him to stay. Souness - Wrong man from the start, played poor football and ruining a top 6 team. Arguable whether the fans played a part. Roeder - Wrong man again. Fans liked him and sung his name while protesting against Freddy. Sacked at the right time but it was a surprise to most fans. Big Sam - Came in during the takeover and despite the poor football got very little abuse. Save for the duo within view of the Sky cameras against Liverpool he seemed to be well liked and his name was still being sung come Stoke. Keegan - We know what happened there. The thing with voting for a new manager is that they need to want to come to us. I've no doubt we'll have some who'll want Keegan and some Mourinho but lets be realistic, they're never going to get what they want are they? Agree with most of the appraisals but there was huge fan pressure to get rid of Souness for a while before he went and rightly so. It is staggering how many people think that the fans were involved in getting rid of Allardyce. The thing with Souness is that while the fans wanted him out we were ignored by the board. Freddy got rid when Freddy wanted to get rid, not because the fans harrassed him. In all honesty I think Fred never sacked a manager when the fans started acting up just did it when it was either untennable or he was ready to. I remember going mental in a good way when souness was sacked, Fred should never have given him 50m to spend. If it wasn't for souness we'd be a top 8 team still if we'd got a semi competent manager in.

Yep, theyll sign loads of players I reckon. Probably come in for Taylor in a moment of madness.

You're such a card. Who'd would've thought of using an inaccurate stereotype Sky have perpetuated against there own fans? I'm just joking about that bit really, is a bit true though, most of my mates talk absoulte bollocks as does my dad, my dad thinks Nicky Butt should start for the experience for example. ONly people I hear that talk sense really are on here. You're taking the piss, aye? I don't agree with most supporters either. If I had my way i'd have Jonas taken out the back of the training ground and beat with a stick until he learned how to float in a decent cross although i've realised i'm in a minority. I, like you, have also suffered an earbashing at the hands of one of the few Nicky Butt fans still out there (it might've been your Dad. If so tell him he's a c***). Do these experiences mean I'm against fan ownership? No, because I respect the fact that they, like me, have a vested emotional (and if NUST get their way, financial) interest in the club. I'd much rather disagree with people who I know have put their time and money into this football club over the years rather than a bloated billionaire with no attachment. Aye, was a slight jest. I'm not saying I wouldn't have this over Ashley, I just don't think it will work A) I don't think they'll raise the money. B) Do any of these people havea clue about running a 300M investment. C) We'll make Kneejerk and rash decisions and we'll spend whatever money we raise in the first window. That's fair enough I suppose. They're all valid reasons to be unsure about any potential fan takeover. I see it this way - if they don't make enough money then there is no harm done so it's not really something to worry too much about. To combat the last two points I personally would be hoping the fans would elect a President ala Barca. When 'fan ownership' is uttered I think a lot of people assume Paul from Row M suddenly is going to be given the day to day running of the club and that's that. In reality I imagine we'd see a Newcastle fan with the knowledge and personal experience, someone like Barry Moat or Graham Wylie, voted in and given a set term running the club. Obviously i'm not involved with any of this work so it's all speculation on my part but that's personally how I see it working. From what it sounds like it does infer that members will all have avote on major decisions. I would be happy with this structure if it was basically run like a normal football club where the Chairman basically makes most of the decisions but is answerable to the board. Personally I don't think it matters whether the Chairman is from Newcastle either in fact I'd prefer if he wasn't, I'd like someone who has already been a chairman or MD before like David Dein (Dreamworld). I think a freh perspective would help. I can't see the 'vote on every issue' thing being workable in the real world. It takes too long. Maybe for stuff such as kit supplier, sponsors, pie and pint prices etc. but not for transfers and the like. I suppose we'll not know the full details until Monday, possibly later. Yeah I know day to day decisions wont be made like that but say manager changes will, I just think itll be kneejerktastic tbh, like I said we'll get through so many managers. Our high management turnover over the past few years was due to mistakes by the board rather than fan pressure. Robson - Sacked at the wrong time. Majority of fans wanted him to stay. Souness - Wrong man from the start, played poor football and ruining a top 6 team. Arguable whether the fans played a part. Roeder - Wrong man again. Fans liked him and sung his name while protesting against Freddy. Sacked at the right time but it was a surprise to most fans. Big Sam - Came in during the takeover and despite the poor football got very little abuse. Save for the duo within view of the Sky cameras against Liverpool he seemed to be well liked and his name was still being sung come Stoke. Keegan - We know what happened there. The thing with voting for a new manager is that they need to want to come to us. I've no doubt we'll have some who'll want Keegan and some Mourinho but lets be realistic, they're never going to get what they want are they? True alot of that was the Board at fault, but I just think itll be chaos if the fans decide on stuff like this. Who are we to say who to appoint, yes we have a good footballing knowledge mostly but we'd never get to interview them or anything.