brummie

For some reason this thread reminds me of this interchange. Paulie 'Walnuts' Gualtieri: Hey, Sil. You remember your first blowjob? Silvio Dante: Oh, yeah. Paulie 'Walnuts' Gualtieri: How long did it take for the guy to come?

The ability to distinguish between a centre back and a right back. It's for a "friend".

He always looked a bit out of his depth with us, I was staggered to see how many goals he has scored this season, quite incredible. Happy for him, though, always had a good attitude.

It's interesting you mention about him playing the same side - it's something I've noticed when watching you lot play, it's always, give or take 1 or 2 occasions, the same eleven. I'm pleased that Moyes has changed in that respect - he's much more open to squad rotation (well, sometimes enforced) nowadays. I don't think you'll finish as poorly as last season but I still don't think you'll end the season strongly. Crunch game at yours (any idea when it may be re-arranged for?) It is April 14th, confirmed last week.

These mongs disagree : http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=483365 They're deluding themselves, then. Cheers when they scored, and a few renditions of "We are Sunderland, we are Sunderland" and that was it. They're usually quite noisey but last night they were terrible.

What an awful night that was. We've got the most stubborn manager I can ever remember us having. Persists in playing Cuellar at RB when the entire world can see it doesn't work. When we're not having things go our way, he can't seem to change things - or more accurately, doesn't want to do so. And for all the "Martin plays his strongest side every time" worship from the press, what that actually means is "Martin plays the same side every time". Petrov, Milner and Dunne look absolutely fucking knackered. Everton now have a decent chance of finishing above us. To make it worse, it pissed down with rain all night long. Sunderland watchers will be interested to know they were the worst fans we've had at our place this season, barely a peep out of them. Sold about 1500 of the 3200 usually available, which in itself isn't too bad given it is a rearranged night game, but those who came were mute. Most unlike them.

I bet they actually come through to a 6 year old PAYG Nokia, too.

You asked the Everton lads a similar thing the other day which was clearly fishing for compliments. Take a look a few posts above for my view on our style of play. Compare that with your preaching about your team's style of play, then tell me I am the brainwashed one. Earth calling Brummie. You don't think it's a little coincidental that i'm asking fans of the teams that are competing for 4th spot? I asked the Everton fans who they prefer to get 4th spot btw (nothing about style of play). How am i supposed to know they'd say us. No i've realised you're not brainwashed now, but neither am I. We play attractive football to the neutral and you play effective football that relies on the use of good defenders and the counter attack....oh and a tall striker. What i like the best is the notion that you have the right to call me on "audacity" were i to dare to suggest we play better football than you. Are you the Judge Dredd of footballing purity or something? Awesome stuff, btw, talking about us having a "tall striker". I take it you don't actually go to your matches very often if you can't see the irony in that. And as for the "we play attractive football for the neutral" thing, what do you want me to say to that? Get on the phone to English Heritage to suggest a blue plaque down WHL? Push for UN world heritage site status for Luka Modric? And you wonder why pretty much every neutral hates Spurs with conceit like that.

Am I insane in actually liking this league programme? I really like its amateurishness, and the fact it seems to go on forever.

You asked the Everton lads a similar thing the other day which was clearly fishing for compliments. Take a look a few posts above for my view on our style of play. Compare that with your preaching about your team's style of play, then tell me I am the brainwashed one.

Statistical analysis of our game against you - the one where your fans were screaming "hoof" in an attempt to make Wenger like them - showed that that is precisely what you did. Which is why i said "we don't hit it long often". Don't really think the fans did that for Wengers sake tbh. Think it had more to do with the 1st game at yours where you camped inside your half for near enough 65 minutes of the game defending. Probably why MON plays Cueller at rb and why Fulham and Birmingham are the only teams in the top half of the table that have scored less goals then you. But you do play the long ball often - that's the point. As I said, that's fine, but it is a bit rich to hear Spurs fans trawling the internet for praise for the way they play when they resort to such iffy tactics themselves. As for that match you mention, we were camped in our own half defending a constant bombardment of long balls from you. And he probably did right to play Cuellar at RB in that match, given the aerial bombardment you put us under.

Statistical analysis of our game against you - the one where your fans were screaming "hoof" in an attempt to make Wenger like them - showed that that is precisely what you did. EDIT I should also add that we're just as bad, with the difference that we rely too much on crosses whipped into the box, but then again we're not the ones lecturing others on how they should play, or telling people what great football we play. Or fishing for compliments on here *wink*

Your problem is - as we've agreed here - you don't do it against the better (ie top four) teams. That is why you won't finish in the top four.

That's precisely, precisely the issue. Talk to any Villa fan and they'll tell you that. They'll also say that they know, prior to a match, which team we'll start with (ignoring injuries, which we seem to be largely immune from). Our plan A when it works is very watchable, and I'd be a hypocrite if i said i didn't like watching it. Our plan B, on the other hand, doesn't actually exist. Out of the 4 champions league challengers which team do you think plays the better brand of football (ie more pleasing to the eye for a neutral)? Man City at their best are the better. You lot hit it long to Crouch far, far too often. You're also about as clinical as Birmingham City.

That's precisely, precisely the issue. Talk to any Villa fan and they'll tell you that. They'll also say that they know, prior to a match, which team we'll start with (ignoring injuries, which we seem to be largely immune from). Our plan A when it works is very watchable, and I'd be a hypocrite if i said i didn't like watching it. Our plan B, on the other hand, doesn't actually exist.

I really like Paul Robinson. We (well, the Holte End) always give him stick when we play them at our place, and he engages in "banter" (apologies for that vile Soccer AM style word) in return, always really good natured. He strikes me as a top bloke. David Seaman was always the same with us, too, incidentally.

That's a bit harsh, certainly the Allardyce bit, but there's a lot of truth there. This is the issue. When teams have a go at us, we love it, it gives us time and space to do that counter attacking thing. Which is fine, because we're really very, very good at it. When teams defend - and a lot of them do just defend when they play us at Villa Park - we struggle, like today, to unlock them, and we just concentrate on getting it out to the wingers (which in itself isn't bad, I love watching teams with wingers). The issue there is that if that doesn't work, we genuinely don't know what to do. Given that most teams do defend against us when we're at home, that has produced a marked difference in attitude between the home support and those who follow us away. Away from home, we get the chance to play to our strengths. At home, we don't get that chance, and we often struggle, hence the lack of empathy between manager and fans.

brummie, do you think O'Neill is capable of getting you to the next level, ie the top 4. Just seems he'll never have a better chance than this year. No. He's too limited tactically, and his transfer market approach is weird beyond belief. He can keep us top 6 or 7 with his eyes closed, not even trying, but he won't take us any further than that. He's an infuriating man. See today, the crowd see Delfouneso and Luke Young warming up, looking like they're coming on, start cheering ironically (Cuellar at RB and Heskey anywhere are subjects of some discussion), so he changed his mind and puts Albrighton on instead, just to remind us who is boss. He's infuriating at times, like I said. No chance of him leaving, though? No. Not until he decides he's had enough. To be honest, though, he's always had an uneasy relationship with sections of the support, which would surprise most neutral observers.

brummie, do you think O'Neill is capable of getting you to the next level, ie the top 4. Just seems he'll never have a better chance than this year. No. He's too limited tactically, and his transfer market approach is weird beyond belief. He can keep us top 6 or 7 with his eyes closed, not even trying, but he won't take us any further than that. He's an infuriating man. See today, the crowd see Delfouneso and Luke Young warming up, looking like they're coming on, start cheering ironically (Cuellar at RB and Heskey anywhere are subjects of some discussion), so he changed his mind and puts Albrighton on instead, just to remind us who is boss. He's infuriating at times, like I said.

We were shite today. We've fucked it up big, big time.

No sweat, Heskey is such a presence up front, any player will flourish alongside him. *wink*

Not really relevant to a game today, but Defoe has torn his hamstring, I see. I don't like to see players injured, but that's not good news for Spurs (and you can interpret the way ours, Man City's and Liverpool's fans will see it).

It's a bit harsh to beat a manager with the stick of one season which didn't go too well at Blackburn Rovers. Brummie your not your Villa messageboard now sonshine you know how we roll round these parts. Some people still hold a grudge against Nigel Pearson for his time as caretaker & Big Al for his 8 game spell, never mid one season. Oh, you're preaching to the converted there. I'm still holding a f***ing massive grudge against Billy McNeill and Graham Turner. Especially McNeill, the massive, massive c***. Strange you mention them as I did Wiki check on A.Villa managers saw there employment time & was going to post them then thought fuck it man just let it go McNeill got us and Man City relegated in the same season. That was the worst season of football I've ever witnessed. By the end of it, I wouldn't have been that arsed to see my life end, let alone the season.

Wasn't Peter Storrie the highest paid Chief Executive in the PL, earning more than the likes of Gill and Kenyon? Wasn't Peter Storrie the last hurdle of approval in the unsustainable contracts dished out to mediocre players? How noble of him to jack it in now his salary has been slashed.

However, most other clubs have overspent just as much, they've just used better financial management to handle their debts. Wouldn't that suggest that most other clubs haven't overspent? If they've spent within their means to repay their debts then that's not really overspending. What Portsmouth did was spend far beyond their ability to ever repay, even if they'd managed to get into the Champion's League their earnings wouldn't have covered their expenditure. They might point to their plans for a new stadium, but they've not been filling their current one so it's debatable that they'd have been able to meet their best possible income projections. Yeah, fair point. I think there will be other clubs where the debt levels turn out to be unsustainable though, Pompey are just the first and worst example. Spot on. Feel sorry for the fans yes, but I don't think the club itself is hard-done by the punishment, don't think it's unfair either, I think it's definitely fair presuming, if they hadn't spent beyond their means they might be in the championship instead of us. As harsh as what I am is saying, and the Villa fan before commenting that it's glass-housed for a newcastle fan, well if we overspend like them, we'll come under the same punishment, so don't see how Portsmouth are being treated unfairly, and don't see why we need to feel sorry for them. The only people I feel sorry for are the fans, not the club itself. You're entirely missing my point, which was that it is sad for the Portsmouth fans to see their club tottering on the verge of extinction. I have absolutely no synpathy for the likes of Storrie (who, lest we forget, was the one signing the 80k a week contract for the likes of John Utaka and has more blame to shoulder than anyone in this situation).