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You can kind of sympathize with Taylor in this imo... He'd probably get a lot more support from the fans if he wasn't injured and off the pitch at the moment. He's obviously not really well-liked in the locker room and he's just realized that his "Geordie Hero" position with the fans has been usurped by Carroll as well. Yeah, he's being an idiot. But I can sort of understand why he's acting like one.

RB is certainly a priority... I think out of our current XI Simpson is the one I have the least faith in to make the step up. Possibly even moreso than Kevin Nolan (gasp)

It feels surreal to me that this might already be an 'unrealistic' signing, but.. Lee Chung-Yong

His performance in the premiership last season. Are a few matches lost as caretaker in an untenable situation with demoralized players sufficient to deem him unsuitable for Premiership management for all eternity? No. It's a decent bit of evidence he probably isn't good enough though, I was answering your post. The situation wasn't ideal but he was much worse than Kinnear. So in your opinion Kinnear would have achieved equal or better than Hughton if he were in charge this season? No. You seem to be having some sort of problem with either reading or understanding my posts. To be fair, I'd have an easier time if your position made any sense in the first place.

His performance in the premiership last season. Are a few matches lost as caretaker in an untenable situation with demoralized players sufficient to deem him unsuitable for Premiership management for all eternity? No. It's a decent bit of evidence he probably isn't good enough though, I was answering your post. The situation wasn't ideal but he was much worse than Kinnear. So in your opinion Kinnear would have achieved equal or better than Hughton if he were in charge this season?

His performance in the premiership last season. Are a few matches lost as caretaker in an untenable situation with demoralized players sufficient to deem him unsuitable for Premiership management for all eternity?

Come on, let's be honest. Is there a single shred of evidence of any sort that makes you think Hughton will fail in the Premiership other than the fact that he's Chris Hughton?

Here's an interesting question: if push came to shove and we had to get rid of either Taylor or Carroll, who would you keep?

Lovenkrands was pretty decent even while we were getting relegated last year. Getting on a bit but he'd certainly make my squad.

I never loved him, but I rated him and feel bad for him now. Going from one sinking ship to another... Parker's problem was that he wasn't good enough for a top premiership side, and that while he was here some fans were yet to realize that we were not a top premiership side.

Messi's career will nosedive after we dump them out of the group stages

We need to come down hard on him imo... Getting the right attitude is going to be important if he's going to have a top-flight career and we have to stamp out these tendencies of his when we still can. Taking him out of the first team for a while wouldn't be a bad idea. Shola's coming back soon and relying on him in this division isn't the worst thing in the world.

Unsure what you're basing that on, plenty of decent wingers who aren't necessarily the flashiest or most noticeable players on their teams. (Oh boy, do I have to name them now? ) EDIT: you know what, given what the rest of the players were like while Milner was here, he probably was one of the most noticeable players on our team.

No, that's called 'fiction,' or 'myth.' I actually do watch the matches.

aye tekke poked him in the eye and they both got a yellow card. Used to be a brilliant player, shame he was too much of a cunt to make it in Europe. Had Figo in his back pocket during that WC 2002 match.

Honestly the only specific things I remember is his cross for Luque's goal against Palermo, the belter against Man U, and him looking like the only player who cared when Birmingham embarassed us 5-1 at St. James. Like most people, my opinion about players is formed more by general impressions rather than specific matches.

Random question, but is the Korean lad playing for tom tomsk?

That's got to be one of the daftest things I've read on here. As if anyone* can remember who played well in what games over the last 3 years ffs, and as if the inability of someone to recall this will somehow invalidate their argument. I can remember 10 games or more when Robert played well, Solano, even N'zogbia. Wingers tend to stand out with their contribution. Wide players are there to make things happen, Milner didn't, not for us. Honestly? Right off the top of your head? Without looking at a fixture list? I'm not going to fall into the trap of saying that Milner is in the same class as Robert or Solano, but he was a positive contributor for us during his time here. You'll excuse me if I don't necessarily trust "games Ronaldo claims to remember where he played well" as a standard of a player's quality.

I'm honestly not going to go through the bother of dredging up five matches where I think Milner played well. I just don't think anyone can dispute that he was a good player for us under Roeder/Allardyce. Especially considering the relative standard of the team during those periods.

I disagree, but I'm probably not capable of changing your mind about this am I?

It may be that actually being there holder offers you a better view of the matches than just watching TV (having experienced both, I'd probably agree with this even...) Still, we can't start assigning different credibility to people based on how they support the club. If we're going to start saying that some people's opinions are inherently better than others, we might as well just close this board down and open a new one which requires a ST for entry.

Well, let's not jump to bury this one when he doesn't immediately set the Premiership alight then. One of the most insane things I've experienced as a Newcastle supporter was seeing how much Milner was hated. It wasn't even a case of him giving up on him too early when he was struggling, he was actually one of our best players for 2 years running and had an excellent attitude, but some people seemed to despise him because he "had no pace" (the most overused and often incorrect indictment against a player ever by the way) and "couldn't cross." Now I'm not trying to imply that the fans drove him out of the club or anything, I'm fully aware of who initiated that transfer... But still, it's always just struck me as incomprehensible.

me too

The most arrogant poster on the board just made what is possibly his most arrogant statement ever. It's about how he thinks other people are arrogant.

That sentence belongs in the irony hall of fame . I was going to spit out some sort of rebuttal but I'm too busy admiring it instead.