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Kinnear is more embarrassing, but Tony Adams is hands down more inept. He took a FA Cup winning squad and managed to transform it into one of the worst in the Prem.

Think Sunderland are a good example of sacking their manager at the right time. The players had such an "anyone but Roy Keane" attitude that the good feeling resulting from his sacking has got them quite a few points, although Sbragia is almost certainly out of his depth in the long term. Surely the attitude in our dressing room right now is pretty much "anyone but Joe Kinnear." Sacking him now could produce similar good feeling.

Why don't we all have a protest at the derby, with "appoint Wise!" and "Cockney Mafia In!" Banners. Confuse the hell out of Ashley

Everyone on here got sick of listening to his "fair point" years ago. The smugness, misrepresentation, and generally annoying attitude are just gravy.

The question that haunts me is where we would be if Ashley had the balls to stick to the plan and gave Terim the job instead of trying to sell. I look at how comfortable West Ham are with no money, a s*** squad, and an unproven manager, and I shed a tear. I didnt relaise Terim was the plan, my guess is that Poyet was the number 1 choice, better than Kinnear. Its a shame that the fans didnt protest, Im not sure he'd put the club up for sale if they hadnt of protested so vehemently. West Ham is a prime example of what we should be doing, said it 3 months ago, ill say it again. My opinion, and i dont care who this pisses off is that those who protested are a big part of the problem we face now. I agree but there were never, ever not going to be protests when a club legend like Kevin Keegan walks out, ostensibly due to the interference of the "Cockney Mafia." Keegan's fault for leaving us in the shit. Ashley's fault for appointing him in the first place, and then caving at the first sign of trouble. Why the fuck is everyone at the top of this club so weak minded.

The question that haunts me is where we would be if Ashley had the balls to stick to the plan and gave Terim the job instead of trying to sell. I look at how comfortable West Ham are with no money, a shit squad, and an unproven manager, and I shed a tear.

Really deserves to be sacked even just for his reckless misconduct alone.

I don't agree, if we had the majority of our players fit for the season so far we would be comfortably in mid table. Perhaps not comfortably mid table, but certainly not nailed-on for relegation as we are now. You can't blame this entirely on lack of transfer activities. No squad in the premiership could withstand the kind of injury crisis we've got. It's a miracle we avoided relegation in 2006-2007. This one's just as bad, if not worse.

Is the ignore filter coming anytime soon? I don't read anything he says but even just his avatar kind of gets on my nerves now.

West Brom's actually been on the up last few matches... Think Stoke are looking the worse team at the moment. Stoke at home... Ah, that certainly went well

I honestly don't even know who he is. When'st he last time he reffed us?

I didn't even consider this option, but sure, why not. To think that the day would come where I would welcome Dennis Wise as manager...

N'Sonia.....N'Zogba.....err Charlie That was absolutely f.....g hilarious. indeed it was!! hah.......... god i hate jfk The fact that he mentioned N'Zogbia without even being asked about him seems like a bit of a slip. Looks like both were rested due to transfer reasons. Getting a few quid for the French cunt should take a bit of the sting off losing Shay.

If that interview isn't stone cold evidence that he's lost the plot (assuming he ever had one to begin with,) I don't know what is. Reminds me of those Roeder interviews that made him look borderline mentally unstable towards the end of his reign.

He was fine when we had Enrique-Colo-Bassong-Beye going. Everyone's been hit with a drop in form since Wigan away. Owen was scoring for fun, and Bassong and Colo were rocks. It's the injuries destroying the squad and the players losing confidence in their manager that's killed everyone's form. I would be hesitant to judge anyone based on how they're playing right now.

Midds, this one is for you. What good will another short-term appointment do? If a new manager is to be appointed it has to be long term and in that sense we can do far, far better than the likes of Pardew and Coleman. No we can't. In the state we're in I'd hand either one of them a two year contract in a heartbeat. Despite the likes of Terim, Deschamps, Bruce and Shearer declaring interest in the job when KK left? The club's stock has shot down like a rock since then. Besides, none of them actually expressed genuine interest bar Terim. Shearer made a point of saying he wouldn't come here.

Midds, this one is for you. What good will another short-term appointment do? If a new manager is to be appointed it has to be long term and in that sense we can do far, far better than the likes of Pardew and Coleman. No we can't. In the state we're in I'd hand either one of them a two year contract in a heartbeat.

Midds, this one is for you.

It's not as if Kinnear was a class manager with a decent record and we're just turning on him because of recent poor form. FFS. He was never good enough. Appointing hiim was a mistake from the start. Let's just get around to rectifying that before we're dead and buried. It was either him or Hughton. Take your pick. No-one else wanted the job. Getting on my nerves how everyone states this with utter certainty. If you were an unemployed manager who'd just left a Championsihp club, would you not jump at the chance to manage anywhere in the Premiership? No matter how s***? Well there are a few of those out there right now. And every last one is leagues better than Joe f***ing Kinnear. Do you blame the players at all or is it totally, 100% on Kinnear? The players are also s*** but they'd be significantly less s*** if they weren't being coached by a complete idiot. Is it impossible in your mind to both improve the squad AND get a new manager? Does it have to be either/or? Not at all. But I can't see a long line of top players and managers forming an orderly queue to join us, can you? In my opinion the players need to take a large share of the responsibility of the blame for where we find ourselves. If you disagree then fair enough. I don't absolve the players from blame in the slightest. I don't see why you keep trying to misrepresent me in that manner. We need to make a couple signings AND sack Joe Kinnear if we want to stay up. There are replacements out there. Name them. Search the thread, I've done so at least five times and I really can't be arsed anymore.

It's not as if Kinnear was a class manager with a decent record and we're just turning on him because of recent poor form. FFS. He was never good enough. Appointing hiim was a mistake from the start. Let's just get around to rectifying that before we're dead and buried. It was either him or Hughton. Take your pick. No-one else wanted the job. Getting on my nerves how everyone states this with utter certainty. If you were an unemployed manager who'd just left a Championsihp club, would you not jump at the chance to manage anywhere in the Premiership? No matter how s***? Well there are a few of those out there right now. And every last one is leagues better than Joe f***ing Kinnear. Do you blame the players at all or is it totally, 100% on Kinnear? The players are also s*** but they'd be significantly less s*** if they weren't being coached by a complete idiot. Is it impossible in your mind to both improve the squad AND get a new manager? Does it have to be either/or? Not at all. But I can't see a long line of top players and managers forming an orderly queue to join us, can you? In my opinion the players need to take a large share of the responsibility of the blame for where we find ourselves. If you disagree then fair enough. I don't absolve the players from blame in the slightest. I don't see why you keep trying to misrepresent me in that manner. We need to make a couple signings AND sack Joe Kinnear if we want to stay up. There are replacements out there.

Does blaming Kinnear automatically equate not blaming the players in your mind? NE5-esque logic

It's not as if Kinnear was a class manager with a decent record and we're just turning on him because of recent poor form. FFS. He was never good enough. Appointing hiim was a mistake from the start. Let's just get around to rectifying that before we're dead and buried. It was either him or Hughton. Take your pick. No-one else wanted the job. Getting on my nerves how everyone states this with utter certainty. If you were an unemployed manager who'd just left a Championsihp club, would you not jump at the chance to manage anywhere in the Premiership? No matter how s***? Well there are a few of those out there right now. And every last one is leagues better than Joe f***ing Kinnear. Do you blame the players at all or is it totally, 100% on Kinnear? The players are also shit but they'd be significantly less shit if they weren't being coached by a complete idiot. Is it impossible in your mind to both improve the squad AND get a new manager? Does it have to be either/or?

It's not as if Kinnear was a class manager with a decent record and we're just turning on him because of recent poor form. FFS. He was never good enough. Appointing hiim was a mistake from the start. Let's just get around to rectifying that before we're dead and buried. Who should we have got instead then bearing in mind the club was for sale? What we should have done was say "thanks but get the f*** out of here" the moment the club went off the market. Why? We were looking alright going into Christmas when, as I recall at least, we put a decent little run together. To sack Kinnear on the back of that would have been very unfair imo and would just alienate the players even more. If it's illogical to sack a decent manager over a bad run, it's equally illogical to keep a shit manager over a good one. We should have let his contract run out, gave him an honorable handshake for steadying the ship, and write him a glowing reference for his new job in the Championship.

It's not as if Kinnear was a class manager with a decent record and we're just turning on him because of recent poor form. FFS. He was never good enough. Appointing hiim was a mistake from the start. Let's just get around to rectifying that before we're dead and buried. It was either him or Hughton. Take your pick. No-one else wanted the job. Getting on my nerves how everyone states this with utter certainty. If you were an unemployed manager who'd just left a Championsihp club, would you not jump at the chance to manage anywhere in the Premiership? No matter how shit? Well there are a few of those out there right now. And every last one is leagues better than Joe Fucking Kinnear.

It's not as if Kinnear was a class manager with a decent record and we're just turning on him because of recent poor form. FFS. He was never good enough. Appointing hiim was a mistake from the start. Let's just get around to rectifying that before we're dead and buried. Who should we have got instead then bearing in mind the club was for sale? What we should have done was say "thanks but get the fuck out of here" the moment the club went off the market.