mrmojorisin75

amazing

not sure you can ignore the 8 (?) previous fire and insurance claims like but if the stand wasn't insured (seems weird) then i literally makes no sense what would make sense is if it was insured to pay someone to start a fire when it's full of fans to take away the arson element...

holy shit

good point at the end of last season if you'd asked us if we'd take 34m unspent in the bank and a relegation scrape looming with 6 games to go but pardew is no longer the manager i'm sure we'd all have taken it

From reading through this it really brings it home that the club is probably being run to entirely satisfy the balance sheet. I mean we knew this was true as a general rule but with these accounts you get the feeling that it's being run year to year, i.e. player coming to end of contract or not fancied by manager, sell him for peanuts to anyone and write down his value in the books. There surely can't be a worse way to run a professional football club.

He's f***ing excellent, how we got him ahead of other clubs after he played a good few games for Holland too is beyond me, what was he thinking? No idea - probably mates with Krul pre not giving a fuck anymore. Yeah maybe Krul. Suppose if his intention was to spend a year to prove himself then move to a CL club then he's gone the right way about it mind.

He's fucking excellent, how we got him ahead of other clubs after he played a good few games for Holland too is beyond me, what was he thinking?

Holy shit

Can you see us keeping a clean sheet like?

What's his record now? I'm wondering just how bad this could actually get before the end of the season, worst ever type stuff?

Thank fuck I didn't watch that then.

They'll just come out with they feel it's only fair to see what he can do over a full season with his own players brought in. Not a chance now imo, he's back to picking up cones for his beer tokens.

But the first paragraph as I read it is saying is that the club brought in a certain type of limited manager, then gave him the wrong tools to work with. That's not really much of an argument against Pardew (beyond highlighting some of his failings that the board continued to ignore), it's an attack on the people that hired him. As for the rest, the idea that Pardew is the mastermind behind the mantra of mediocrity just seems bonkers to me. He served up no end of s*** but I presume like any other egotistical manager he want's to have a fairly decent legacy have some success to look back on rather than sit on a pundits sofa and trot out tails of balance sheets. In interviews since he left, it is his records in the cups that he brings up and says hurt the most. Whatever excuses he gives for those records, it seems fairly telling. Sure you can dismiss anything he says as rubber lipped bollocks, and he may have put up with the penny pinching, player sales, and suggested priorities to keep himself in a job he was lucky to get in the first place... but he was quick enough to jump ship for the chance of personal glory at his struggling home town club as soon as his reputation was on a downward spiral here. Not only because of his own clear failings and the protests and anger that he rightly suffered towards the end, but because of his association with an unambitious and toxic regime that was increasingly the focus of the national media. This is it. He's a poor manager but it's not in his own interst for us to be mediocre when he was in charge. What? Who said it was in his interests? He got 5th then managed us so badly thew following season he should have been sacked, no doubt about it. Instead he used the extra games as an excuse to hide his own absolute mismanagement and people let him away with being shite. It then became a thing for him until he left, can't compete with INSERT BULLSHIT HERE and so on. He didn't have the players he wanted and as a result was utterly terrible, his bullshit saved his hide, there's nothing else to it.

Dark days these like, fair play to Ashley and Charnley for making the worst imaginable choice to replace Pardew so it's borderline difficult to enjoy the fact he's gone. I'm now convinced he's not getting the job mind, his record is going to be so fucking bad come the end of the season even these stupid cunts won't risk it.

But the first paragraph as I read it is saying is that the club brought in a certain type of limited manager, then gave him the wrong tools to work with. That's not really much of an argument against Pardew (beyond highlighting some of his failings that the board continued to ignore), it's an attack on the people that hired him. As for the rest, the idea that Pardew is the mastermind behind the mantra of mediocrity just seems bonkers to me. He served up no end of shit but I presume like any other egotistical manager he want's to have a fairly decent legacy have some success to look back on rather than sit on a pundits sofa and trot out tails of balance sheets. In interviews since he left, it is his records in the cups that he brings up and says hurt the most. Whatever excuses he gives for those records, it seems fairly telling. Sure you can dismiss anything he says as rubber lipped bollocks, and he may have put up with the penny pinching and suggested priorities to keep himself in a job he was lucky to get in the first place, but he was quick enough to jump ship for the chance of personal glory at his struggling home town club as soon as his reputation was on a downward spiral here. Not only because of his own clear failings, but because of his association with an unambitious and toxic regime that was increasingly the focus of the national media. . Almost every word that came out of his mouth was either a pre-emptive excuse in case of defeat or an excuse to absolve him of blame for an actual defeat. Unless we won of course, in which case he did it all. Seems commonly accepted wisdom that Ashley and co know sweet fuck all about football, so if they're listening to the paid professional tell them we can't compete that mantra will catch on, and it obviously did.

We couldn't even do it once under Pardiola man, it was a wrecking ball to the entire season. One Jose Bosingwa from going down (sort of).

Don't doubt for one second that Ashley listened to Pardew. He listened to Kinnear. Pardew kept everything in order for him, the four years he was at the club are probably Ashley's favourite period of owning us. Pardew managed to single-handedly convince our entire fanbase he wasn't completely shite for years ffs. I'm sure he could convince a know nothing like Ashley that we should cut our cloth and were not able to compete unless we spend more. That'll be it in a nutshell, he'll have been at Ashley time and again saying mid table is all I can do without investment and it'll have become truth over time.

Precisely, that's what it boils down to

i don't agree, i've never seen a manager pro-actively go out and make decisions that cost himself points and wins so often in all my years watching football...from team selections to starting games well, getting in front then trying to hang on for 45 minutes time and time again the constraints were a thing, but then so was him being unable to work with the quality players he did have because they weren't the right type for him and didn't run about enough inflexible, clueless fucking wanker, who will get found out (again) soon enough

if he got it ahead of koeman it'd be fucking worthless anyways

wait until he has a full pre-season with this squad to impose his ideas on them bet the palace fans are expecting a southampton-esque lolfest, i don't think they're going to get it, he's arguably having his honeymoon period way too early and getting a lot better results than he should be at this stage

Likely to just be a simple cashflow thing. The club may be making a lot of money but it may take time to get it. If you want serious cash quickly Banks are the places to go. It's more an issue of why he's doing it than the Practice of doing it. can you explain that more? we seem to 'know' that he's cooked the books to hide the profit from last year so why wouldn't he just be using that 'profit' to pay for what he's loaning? Because the profit might not be readily available. It's difficult to comment too much on why anything like this is done unless we are told explicitly. He isn't necessarily loaning anything he is just getting access to money quicker. So say the PL is going to give him £60m in £20m annual installments for the TV money. During that time he can only use that money once it's been paid to him. If he goes to the bank and says lend us £60m the bank will have the funds in place to do that. They know they are getting £60m back because it's secured against the TV deal. The bank gets it's money back and Ashley gets the cash tomorrow. That's a very crude example but it's the sort of thing that's common place in business as you need a cash injection to finance something and banks generally are the only places that have cash available quickly. Why Ashley wants money up front is anyone's guess but he will feel it can be put to better use now than waiting for it to come in installments. Cheers

you joke but if ashley ever considered us do you think he'd just let us go and then have to pay for PL advertising?