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media is part of his job, the last part any of us consider, however he's failing at all of the really important parts of his job as well

While we're on the subject Everything he said there was perfectly fine, but the bolded bit just didn't need saying http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-keep-demba-ba-as-75million-1198658 Everyone thought this until Pardew felt the urge to tell us he was still available. Please tell me that you don't actually believe that Ba's agents didn't know about this clause. Obviously not. You're missing the point anyway so you're wasting your time. Perhaps you would care to explain your point then? My point is that Pardew 'revealing' the existence of the clause has absolutely no bearing on whether Ba would be sold or not. Any interested buyer would know about the clause. You and I may not have known about it, but that is irrelevant. Of course it has bearing. Most managers would have seen the numerous articles we did and assumed he'd now cost twice the release clause. Pardew saying what he did (for no reason...) would have interested clubs that were no longer interested. f***ing hell. Is this a wind up? Do you honestly think that Benitez reads the newspapers to see if players have release clauses or not? That sounds realistic - Ba's agents will have read and negotiated Ba's contract. They will know the contents of that contract. Ba's gameplan was to get a transfer to another club. Ba's agent would have told any manager who would listen that Ba's clause was still active. born yesterday Good reply. Any agent who didn't inform managers of the clause that would be probably the worst agent in the world. Really struggling to see why people think that all PL managers didn't know about the reactivation of the clause. They most certainly do, still doesn't change the fact biscuit brains didn't need to tell everyone. I agree with this - in an ideal world, Pardew wouldn't say anything at all. That would be good for everyone I think. But the fact remains, him spouting off to the press wouldn't have put anyone on notice about Ba's release clause. the best striker we had on the books since shearer, goal machine tbh, came in on what was reported to be a "low" deal and banged in the goals do we (a) tell everyone he's not for sale, (b) make no public comment, © explain to the associated press that he has a released clause so we're powerless to stop him leaving or (d) quietly offer him a new deal which is all he really wanted and deserved anyways? i see your point, pardiola didn't reveal the location of the holy grail, he did however reveal our intentions born yesterday

While we're on the subject Everything he said there was perfectly fine, but the bolded bit just didn't need saying http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-keep-demba-ba-as-75million-1198658 Everyone thought this until Pardew felt the urge to tell us he was still available. Please tell me that you don't actually believe that Ba's agents didn't know about this clause. Obviously not. You're missing the point anyway so you're wasting your time. Perhaps you would care to explain your point then? My point is that Pardew 'revealing' the existence of the clause has absolutely no bearing on whether Ba would be sold or not. Any interested buyer would know about the clause. You and I may not have known about it, but that is irrelevant. Of course it has bearing. Most managers would have seen the numerous articles we did and assumed he'd now cost twice the release clause. Pardew saying what he did (for no reason...) would have interested clubs that were no longer interested. f***ing hell. Is this a wind up? Do you honestly think that Benitez reads the newspapers to see if players have release clauses or not? That sounds realistic - Ba's agents will have read and negotiated Ba's contract. They will know the contents of that contract. Ba's gameplan was to get a transfer to another club. Ba's agent would have told any manager who would listen that Ba's clause was still active. born yesterday

icarus is killing me man

so in the excuses thread people say that managers of other clubs make excuses all the time right? do all other managers talk about selling their players to other clubs so much?

While we're on the subject Everything he said there was perfectly fine, but the bolded bit just didn't need saying http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-keep-demba-ba-as-75million-1198658 Everyone thought this until Pardew felt the urge to tell us he was still available. Please tell me that you don't actually believe that Ba's agents didn't know about this clause. Obviously not. You're missing the point anyway so you're wasting your time. Perhaps you would care to explain your point then? My point is that Pardew 'revealing' the existence of the clause has absolutely no bearing on whether Ba would be sold or not. Any interested buyer would know about the clause. You and I may not have known about it, but that is irrelevant.

sorry to be all inochi about this but isn't the bit in bold the exact opposite of how we handle our outgoing transfers?

that mag article man, jesus some people clearly do not understand football

This is the pardew thread, why are people constantly going on about it all being Ashley's fault? That's for the Ashley thread. Here we discuss pardew abs his performance surely?

Was looking for something more than one game mind, anything can work once.

as just about everyone else see's play him behind the striker, haul shola off 'cause he's fucking terrible, and either move santon to LW or play gouffran there i'm referring of course to this weekend just gone specifically as i've stated earlier i accept the difficulties and limitation he's working under with regards not getting the players he wants and being undermined and so on, but his fucking job is to work around shit and get results come on, give me one example of something innovative he's done with the personnel available to him since we finished 5th, just one time he made a noticeable change and it succeeded i honestly don't think it exists, and it should

Bent and Downing cheap now? Their wages are allegedly more than anyone we have on the books. He's mismanaged Sissoko, Marveaux, Cisse, Ba, Anita, Cabaye in terms of their position on the pitch in the last year or so. Why would you hand the daft cunt more players on mental wages? Insanity. He's terrible, there's no other side to the story.

this is it in a nutshell, no-one is saying he's got it easy but during the last year when we (and he) have really struggled can anyone show me one tactical or personnel related change he's made that's made things better? this is an absolute basic thing for any manager as generally very few managers on the planet have the exact players they want in the exact numbers who suit their style, but they adapt and make changes that benefit the team, that is why they are paid ONE, i ask someone to show me one such thing pardew has done in the last year...i'll be amazed if someone can come up with one...oh yeah, and i mean one that's succeeded this is the main reason i think he's such a shit manager, i could maybe take everything else if i could see he had even one thing up his fucking sleeve

This man knows nothing about football does he? Nothing whatsoever.

No no no, that can't be right I'm afraid so. Jesus man. I'm starting to think he's just opening his mouth now and letting anything come out. Fucking Morecambe. And what Sewelly said, the time for benefit of the doubt passed a long time back as well. He's just appalling.

No no no, that can't be right

he needs to go like, no 2 ways about it because his head won't be right, pardew will inevitably play him in every game and leave people like anita on the bench and play sissoko on the wing to accommodate him better if he left ASAP

interesting perspective Also ties in with what Dave posted earlier from .com about our players looking like they're coming off the end of a long season rather than being fresh for a new one. Absolutely spot on. hm, but over-coaching in what respect? if they were being heavily coached in counter-attacking you'd expect them to have more understanding...only thing makes sense is them playing a counter-attacking game but not being coached in how to do that, i'd put the hesitancy down to them being heavily coached in defensive aspects, when they set off on a run what's probably causing the indecision and deathly slow pace of the attacks is the players wondering about their defensive roles thought this for a very long time tbh perhaps i'm missing something though, don't see how over-coaching them in attacking/counter-attacking football would cause it to break down the way it does

interesting perspective

Fulham will score past us, I'm sure of that like.

Gouffran's miss was so similar to how ever many games under pardew where we've done fuck all and been dug out by a lucky goal from nothing.

Agree this should be kept to track his real excuses not post made up ones

Would let cabaye walk on the basis of that performance from big vurn myself

I'm going to choose the positive, same games we're a point ahead on last season and Anita / sissoko played in their correct positions.