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yeah that's weird then you could have had rooney & ronaldo for 43 or tevez and ronaldo for 45 07/08 season, they're presumably not counting as wasn't a straight partnership then

correct according to this, was surprised Rooney/Ronaldo was nowhere near considering he equalled Shearer's then record one season https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/the-greatest-strike-partnerships-of-the-premier-league-henry-shearer-cole/

pissed the last couple of years of messi's prime years away, CL in particular

imma watch 1917 instead of this pish

he's an instagram influencer not a footballer

liked lookman the little bits i've seen of him, big ask to come into this setup and do well mind you

i like roma

watching the maradona doc on netflix - his entire approach seems to be shouting nonsensical bullshit and dancing to south american music with the players i'd take that tomorrow over this fucking idiot

absolutely the exact point i was trying to make when i brought up tomasson. joelinton might be a decent player, but there's zero possibility of drawing a firm conclusion either way under present circumstances. This is where I am at the moment. I've seen some really nice touches and flashes of skill, but also some weak shooting and general lack of killer instinct you would expect in a striker. But the good bits make me want to see him succeed and hope it is just a case of being new to the league and having to cope with poor supply and movement around him. why is this so hard for some to understand, the SELL HIM NOOOWWWWW mob blow my mind

oh boy

You seen that JDT had ability and was an international striker, he just had wretched luck here with Shearer's injury. Whereas Joelinton is not even fucking league 1 standard as was pretty evident Saturday I remember going down to watch training after we'd signed JDT and he was pinging balls in from all angles, he looked fucking brilliant. for surez, how'd that work out for him on the pitch playing out of position in a shite team under a shite manager?

You seen that JDT had ability and was an international striker, he just had wretched luck here with Shearer's injury. Whereas Joelinton is not even fucking league 1 standard as was pretty evident Saturday for fucks sake You seen that JDT had ability and was an international striker, he just had wretched luck here with Shearer's injury. Whereas Joelinton is not even fucking league 1 standard as was pretty evident Saturday for fucks sake What is wrong with you??. Whst did I say there that warranted that response or what do you think I said that was so wrong because you're about the 2nd/3rd person to read the post and ignore everything to make the same repetitive point you want to make which is you've judged him so he's shit the end the initial point from Kaka i think was that people are saying Joelinton can't kick a ball properly and can't finish, which is exactly what they were saying about JDT at the time and Luuk de Jong more recently JDT went on to have a great club and national career, LDJ has earned a move to Sevilla since playing for us, which suggests the absolute conclusions drawn from newcastle fans based on seeing players systematically stripped of confidence playing for shit managers in shit teams are not as absolute as they might seem got it?

You seen that JDT had ability and was an international striker, he just had wretched luck here with Shearer's injury. Whereas Joelinton is not even fucking league 1 standard as was pretty evident Saturday for fucks sake

good one aye, exactly the same criticism, now at sevilla so he presumably could kick a ball properly unless that deal is bent to fuck as well 2 goals in 16 games. Not the best example really. way to miss the point

good one aye, exactly the same criticism, now at sevilla so he presumably could kick a ball properly unless that deal is bent to fuck as well

see the rondon role was much more successful 2nd half of last season as we got players in about him, perez was especially good in that role due to his workrate off the ball and instinct to get in and around stuff in the box etc. and longstaff got forward very well playing in a more advanced team who is going to replicate that for us, ASM? highly doubtful imo, i think he's best playing in front of people almiron will be punted back to the right when ASM is fit again and will be a total waste of a shirt again so it likely won't be him either longstaff looks broken shortstaff has the potential to support from CM but unlikely to get enough game time shelvey has almost certainly peaked for the season, and anyways if we're launching it to a big man he'll be doing it so won't be in support, whereas 2nd half last season that was all done by in form and confident Cher/Lejeune who are now shot to fuck, but it freed longstaff & hayden to support more steve fucking bruce

hey you may be right man, it's just not the move i'd make but i understand the logic behind the idea

i'm not saying don't get another target man, we clearly will cause we've got PFM steve, i'm saying getting one is unlikely to improve things because the system is fucked

Do you remember the second half of last season? That's how it 'should' work. Direct football towards strong centre forward with two supporting players. The centre of midfield aren't there to score goals in this approach. Obviously we don't have Rafa, Rondon or Perez, but the theory is proved in that that's exactly how we played then, and exactly how we're attempting (poorly) to play now. ASM has been our shining light by default. I wouldn't choose to base my whole approach around him when the team is not capable of playing through him successfully. That's borne out in the fact that his number of goals, assists and chances created are low. If we had a centre forward who worked in this approach I'd imagine ASM and Alan Miron will be far more influential yeah i remember it, but not in the same way as you, i remember the season in 2 distinct parts 1 - up to when Ki came in we played long balls (largely via Shelvey of course) to Rondon and he was isolated from the rest of the team, and we really struggled obvs 2 - Ki came in and we started to play through the middle, the team moved moved more gradually up the pitch together and we got better support in and around Rondon which improved his game and also saw Perez hit form as well...it wasn't a matter of just the long balls started working or Rondon hit form, it was a complete change in the way we played and Longstaff came in and improved what Ki had started plus Almiron helped massively giving us another outlet a big man is very unlikely to help us unless we see a similar change in the system, imo

JDT is a perfect example to put him up against tbh, he was a fucking shambles in front of goal in pretty much the same way until he left our wretched setup

i get the idea the others are saying, hoofs up to giroud who'd hold it and ASM/almiron join the attack - way too predictable in this day and age, plus giroud would basically need to be peak shearer for it ever to work we'd be as well going for batshuyi and aiming for an improved ground game, at least that might result in the team moving further up the pitch if we work the ball better

yeah i understand what both of you are saying but it won't work instead of ASM or Almiron carrying the ball 40 yards to find themselves & Joelinton isolated from the entire team you're hoping that a 40 yard hoof to Giroud would somehow lead to those three somehow not being isolated from the team...we'll still have the same setup and static CMs the answer is not hoofball, the best we've looked all season is when ASM takes 2-3 players out creating space for others with his runs from deep, if you cut that avenue out we'll be even easier to defend against imo

i remain unconvinced that "our system", such as it is, is all about booting it up to a big man when ASM and Almiron are both on the pitch, if that's the road you go down i think you take away ASM's impact in particular unless the argument is being made that we should be going to a giroud type up top and playing it more direct, but that's different i think

i think we could certainly do with dialling the division up to 11 personally