mrmojorisin75

how times change, used to be "some bloke down the pub"

Why is this not on the amusing Internet thread? The best thing I've seen for ages. EDIT: and Shola's fucking face...gold!!!

Why is this not on the amusing Internet thread? The best thing I've seen for ages.

this - be interesting to see how guardiola handles it week in week out now - mourinho will think he has the upper hand after the CL with inter last season and i'd expect him to play on that when they meet

then you can't attract quality players, also we have other players still on 60-70k a week (ala smith, barton, colocini) you fucking forget man, you really do sometimes... what, cos it's true we had a wage bill of 45M last season which is too big for the premiership yet alone the championship, and considering some of the squad are on 5k (i.e. guthrie) then we must have some players on ridiculous wages not sure why you think i'm arguing with you, i'm talking about the absurdity of those wages and the players getting them deserves another to be honest

then you can't attract quality players, also we have other players still on 60-70k a week (ala smith, barton, colocini) you fucking forget man, you really do sometimes...

"he is just a bog lad and will get found out." WTF? is that a real paper or some type of blog shit...the guys fucked in the head

He's fucking crackers if he thinks ANY of our strikers are good enough for the PL. At least on a consistency basis. Sort it out Chris, you've done quite well so far, don't fuck this up. maybe that's the masterplan - instead of one striker who can net 20+ we're planning to rotate 6 so they can all chip in with about 4 each over the season

tasty

this and merlins posts are key for me - i think we have a better chance this year of beating the other teams around us, which is what will tip the balance in the end, hughton has got the team at least looking something like a unit and able to battle...the shambles that saw relegated shouldn't unfold again to get 40 points you need to win 13 games or mix it up with draws: wolves, wigan, west ham, west brom, stoke, bolton, blackpool, blackburn, birmingham are nine teams we are capable of getting results against and we play them all twice (obviously) there will be points from the likes of villa/spurs and so on too, plus the unexpected 'performances' against bigger teams at home that usually crop up we should be alright, it might be a struggle but i think we'll probably just make it assuming there are a couple more key additions

me too

Me too, watched it at about 2am on record. Can remember just sitting there and weeping silently for over an hour. Hopefully today's game will be something Sir Bob watches down on with pride, R.I.P. really, in 2010? i loved the guy but come on

i don't think i could have put my own concerns any more concisely

good god i forgot it was manyoo away first game shee-it

Sporting midfielder? Jesus, for how much?

No-one does!

sorry, I must have missed your counter-argument... Lets not go into how much you miss huh Stu, we'd be here for the rest of our lives. Where, exactly, did I agree to that then?

aside from the fact Benitez was essentially undermining his own board and non-stop complaining...Robson remained dignified as always in arguably worse circumstances some parrells though yeah

No, I'm saying they want to sell and in order to get what asking price they want they'll understand that they can't allow things to stagnate or go backwards on the pitch. I don't know what they paid for LFC and I don't know what their asking price is so I can't comment on the profit part, I'm assuming as no-one has met the asking price it's pretty high though therefore how they could think it'll be met by them not improving on the pitch is beyond me. Where do you get this impression from? To date, their actions would suggest otherwise. Who? LFC's owners...well to me their actions are pretty consistent with their goals - they've shipped someone who had become almost poisonous around the club because he "wasn't getting enough money" to spend and brought in Hodgson who can operate successfully on a limited budget, in fact he can build on a limited budget as we saw at Fulham. Again strengthening can take many forms, such as getting rid of a manager that was clearly past his sell by date at the club (for which they deserve credit imo) and putting a manager like Hodgson in charge. They have Spain's best forward (note not goalscorer) and England's best midfielder when on form...Benitez simply should have been getting more out of them, and Hodgson will imo. That's not to mention the likes of Babel who Hodgson will use well imo, or Joe Cole etc. If Hodgson gets them back in the CL this season with or without net investment then they'll still be a better proposition for new buyers than not being in the CL won't they? It's fairly simple stuff. The alternative for them would have been to bow to Benitez's demands and spend beyond their means, whatever their means are this summer, 'cause Benitez wouldn't have been satisfied whatever they gave him to piss away on the next Robbie Keane/Gareth Barry. But they are the owners who gave Benitez the ridicolous contract in the first place when most football followers could see that he wasn't working out after his honeymoon season, the style of football didn't suit the club and the fans (while appreciative for the Champs League win) weren't enamoured with his transfer policy. Now that they've done what was needed all along, you're giving them credit? what was it, 2 CL finals & 1 win in 6 years as manager...plus qualification for the CL every season bar last? sacking him was needed all along was it? tough crowd Stu, tough crowd wheels came off near the end, especially the Keane/Barry carry on - if you can think of an equivalent sacking outside of the mental Real Madrid ones then i'd like to hear it i'm giving them credit in a sense yeah, not saying getting shot of Benitez makes them ideal owners but they did what needed to be done...they gave their manager plenty of chances to repeat his success at Valencia...not their fault he replaced his most effective midfielder with a ghost and fucked the whole season up is it?

No, I'm saying they want to sell and in order to get what asking price they want they'll understand that they can't allow things to stagnate or go backwards on the pitch. I don't know what they paid for LFC and I don't know what their asking price is so I can't comment on the profit part, I'm assuming as no-one has met the asking price it's pretty high though therefore how they could think it'll be met by them not improving on the pitch is beyond me. Ashley, we've seen by our relegation doesn't appear to grasp the concept. On the pitch we're arguably in a much poorer state than when he took over so unless someone wants to buy a club in 3 years time with a decent balance sheet and average to poor playing staff then I can't see his price being met either. I already said the net spend part might be inaccurate Stu but selling someone like Insua (unproven) for 5m and getting Luke Young (proven to certain level) is a very Roy Hodgson sort of move. It may be he's wheeling and dealing as he has to break even, it may be he's wheeling and dealing now to use money on a marquis player. Again if Inter come in with 30m for Mascherano for example and Hodgson spends that wisely on 2 - 3 very good players they'll still have strengthened...net spend does not = strengthening. The next 5 weeks will tell. And Campbell is an excellent signing for us, as Gosling might turn out to be. The next 5 weeks will tell for us if any more come in where we need them, same for Liverpool. I'll piss myself if Roy spends 20m on Bobby Zamora mind. wrong,for liverpool. next summer will decide if they have failed again to reach the champions league. wtf man, is this all an elaborate wind up? 'cause it's working the next 5 weeks will determine in the most part if they get the players they need to get them back in the CL how is it different from us and the next 5 weeks determining if we get the necessary players to keep us up? next May will be the point when both clubs know their actual fate won't it?

No, I'm saying they want to sell and in order to get what asking price they want they'll understand that they can't allow things to stagnate or go backwards on the pitch. I don't know what they paid for LFC and I don't know what their asking price is so I can't comment on the profit part, I'm assuming as no-one has met the asking price it's pretty high though therefore how they could think it'll be met by them not improving on the pitch is beyond me. Where do you get this impression from? To date, their actions would suggest otherwise. Who? LFC's owners...well to me their actions are pretty consistent with their goals - they've shipped someone who had become almost poisonous around the club because he "wasn't getting enough money" to spend and brought in Hodgson who can operate successfully on a limited budget, in fact he can build on a limited budget as we saw at Fulham. Again strengthening can take many forms, such as getting rid of a manager that was clearly past his sell by date at the club (for which they deserve credit imo) and putting a manager like Hodgson in charge. They have Spain's best forward (note not goalscorer) and England's best midfielder when on form...Benitez simply should have been getting more out of them, and Hodgson will imo. That's not to mention the likes of Babel who Hodgson will use well imo, or Joe Cole etc. If Hodgson gets them back in the CL this season with or without net investment then they'll still be a better proposition for new buyers than not being in the CL won't they? It's fairly simple stuff. The alternative for them would have been to bow to Benitez's demands and spend beyond their means, whatever their means are this summer, 'cause Benitez wouldn't have been satisfied whatever they gave him to piss away on the next Robbie Keane/Gareth Barry.

No, I'm saying they want to sell and in order to get what asking price they want they'll understand that they can't allow things to stagnate or go backwards on the pitch. I don't know what they paid for LFC and I don't know what their asking price is so I can't comment on the profit part, I'm assuming as no-one has met the asking price it's pretty high though therefore how they could think it'll be met by them not improving on the pitch is beyond me. Ashley, we've seen by our relegation doesn't appear to grasp the concept. On the pitch we're arguably in a much poorer state than when he took over so unless someone wants to buy a club in 3 years time with a decent balance sheet and average to poor playing staff then I can't see his price being met either. I already said the net spend part might be inaccurate Stu but selling someone like Insua (unproven) for 5m and getting Luke Young (proven to certain level) is a very Roy Hodgson sort of move. It may be he's wheeling and dealing as he has to break even, it may be he's wheeling and dealing now to use money on a marquis player. Again if Inter come in with 30m for Mascherano for example and Hodgson spends that wisely on 2 - 3 very good players they'll still have strengthened...net spend does not = strengthening. The next 5 weeks will tell. And Campbell is an excellent signing for us, as Gosling might turn out to be. The next 5 weeks will tell for us if any more come in where we need them, same for Liverpool. I'll piss myself if Roy spends 20m on Bobby Zamora mind.