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interesting, not saying it's wrong but for me spurs won't get much further than they are now potential wise unless arsenal & chelsea cease to exist, plus the other well-drawing london clubs...granted you don't state what kind of potential, is it fan base or world appeal or both...? like to hear brummies opinion on it

People generally get a feeling when something isn't right. I can't believe that Redknapp didn't have the 'this is wrong' moment when he was signing some of the players on the wages begin paid. He may not have signed the cheques, but imo any manager has a responsibility to question the chairman when stupid figures are being paid, especially in the post Leeds United era well, i kind of see it the other way around; the manager should tell the chairman who he wants to sign in order to achieve success on the pitch and it's up to the chairman (or whoever controls the money) to be the check and balance to the manager if it's outwith what they can afford given unlimited funding, or even what pompey provided, i'd guess most managers in the game would sign the players they need to achieve immediate success which redknapp did...i mean really how many managers in the game have the capacity/desire to think long-term anyway in the way that a fergie/wenger do? it's an immediate results based business, can't blame him really - imagine if he'd turned down the distins, campbells etc. because the wages were high, the ones who got them the cup...he'd have been called a fuckin idiot and sacked for not using the funds at his disposal unless of course he succeeded with cheaper buys as madras said, even if he asked they'd probably have told him the mega-rich dude would fork it all out anyways

Agreed, the biggest danger is that we overpay for him and he can't cut it in the premiership. He's a late developer though by all accounts, so still should have time to improve. as i said earlier the premiership/championship is littered with strikers who can't cut it in the prem and they always keep moving around for the same sort of fees - he seems worth the gamble for up to 3m for me...chopra went for 5m for fucks sake even if he's a total failure at PL level i reckon we'd easily get the majority of that fee back given his age

redknapp things a pointless argument unless he broke a cap set by the club on fees and/or wages if he was given a blank cheque or operated within a set "budget" (ahem) then the current predicament is certainly not his fault, some people want to review their expectations of what a football managers remit is that said he is a prick of the highest order...

worst that could happen* with beckford is that we pay say 2-3m for him and eventually he doesn't cut it in the PL when we do get back there you'd always get your fee back for someone like him, look at Earnshaw for fucks sake he's been doing it for years the other lad Boyd will be a waste of time and money, you can virtually guarantee it *assuming he doesn't turn into an injury prone cripple of course

His agent is (maybe was) Willie MacKay right? Anyone think of a player who he's represented that has gone on to better himself on the pitch? Barton is another of MacKay's as far as I recall. People say the "too big for his boots" stuff and may be right but I can't help think that arseholes like MacKay combined with managerial chaos & ineptitude at NUFC combined to fuck the lad up. If he wasn't so stinking rich I'd imagine he'd be regretting a lot right now, as it is he probably thinks things are golden!

Bobby Robson said "N'Zogbia is a fascinating case. I signed him as a teenager and he was one of the most naturally gifted players of that age I'd ever seen. He seemed to have some kind of dispute with Glenn Roeder and we rarely saw him, which I couldn't understand. Sam Allardyce did play him but he seemed to have to fit in wherever there was an injury." Zog is the one player who would have gone on to the world stage had he been managed correctly at the right times. Not Viana, not Bramble, and not Jenas. Zog was SBR's real gem find. There you go Mick, there's another one. In terms of pure raw talent for a teenager, who else have you seen on our books with that sort of skill and comfort on the ball in the last decade (and more?) No one, but that doesn't make him brilliant by default. He briefly showed some promise, but that quickly evaporated. Talk of being a 'world stage' player is laughable. I think he could of been a player of European pedigree - if that makes sense, obviously not at the Kaka, Ronaldo or Messi stage but more the Rosicky, Nasri, Nani levels. Thought he was supremely gifted but also awfully mismanaged, had a shitty attitude which wasnt handled well throughout his time here, it really hindered his development as a player. Its amazing how many people fail to acknowledge the poisonous atmosphere we have at the club which hinders the players achievments, of course some players do ok it this environment (Jonas, Bassong, Beye etc) but Im not surpirsed at all by the number of players who have done well since they've left, were they bad players or was it us? Which is harder to accept...? nailed wahey!! mmr you're back! where you been man? happy new year I was just wondering that. got ran off ages ago when i was pissed up and was drawn into some stuff i shouldn't have, spat my dummy out as a result and became a silent observer timing worked well 'cause my work went nuts and i'd never have had time to post anyways Kind of like in your avatar? fkn mods around this place happy new years yourself fella and lady!!!

Bobby Robson said "N'Zogbia is a fascinating case. I signed him as a teenager and he was one of the most naturally gifted players of that age I'd ever seen. He seemed to have some kind of dispute with Glenn Roeder and we rarely saw him, which I couldn't understand. Sam Allardyce did play him but he seemed to have to fit in wherever there was an injury." Zog is the one player who would have gone on to the world stage had he been managed correctly at the right times. Not Viana, not Bramble, and not Jenas. Zog was SBR's real gem find. There you go Mick, there's another one. In terms of pure raw talent for a teenager, who else have you seen on our books with that sort of skill and comfort on the ball in the last decade (and more?) No one, but that doesn't make him brilliant by default. He briefly showed some promise, but that quickly evaporated. Talk of being a 'world stage' player is laughable. I think he could of been a player of European pedigree - if that makes sense, obviously not at the Kaka, Ronaldo or Messi stage but more the Rosicky, Nasri, Nani levels. Thought he was supremely gifted but also awfully mismanaged, had a shitty attitude which wasnt handled well throughout his time here, it really hindered his development as a player. Its amazing how many people fail to acknowledge the poisonous atmosphere we have at the club which hinders the players achievments, of course some players do ok it this environment (Jonas, Bassong, Beye etc) but Im not surpirsed at all by the number of players who have done well since they've left, were they bad players or was it us? Which is harder to accept...? nailed wahey!! mmr you're back! where you been man? happy new year I was just wondering that. got ran off ages ago when i was pissed up and was drawn into some stuff i shouldn't have, spat my dummy out as a result and became a silent observer timing worked well 'cause my work went nuts and i'd never have had time to post anyways

Bobby Robson said "N'Zogbia is a fascinating case. I signed him as a teenager and he was one of the most naturally gifted players of that age I'd ever seen. He seemed to have some kind of dispute with Glenn Roeder and we rarely saw him, which I couldn't understand. Sam Allardyce did play him but he seemed to have to fit in wherever there was an injury." Zog is the one player who would have gone on to the world stage had he been managed correctly at the right times. Not Viana, not Bramble, and not Jenas. Zog was SBR's real gem find. There you go Mick, there's another one. In terms of pure raw talent for a teenager, who else have you seen on our books with that sort of skill and comfort on the ball in the last decade (and more?) No one, but that doesn't make him brilliant by default. He briefly showed some promise, but that quickly evaporated. Talk of being a 'world stage' player is laughable. I think he could of been a player of European pedigree - if that makes sense, obviously not at the Kaka, Ronaldo or Messi stage but more the Rosicky, Nasri, Nani levels. Thought he was supremely gifted but also awfully mismanaged, had a shitty attitude which wasnt handled well throughout his time here, it really hindered his development as a player. Its amazing how many people fail to acknowledge the poisonous atmosphere we have at the club which hinders the players achievments, of course some players do ok it this environment (Jonas, Bassong, Beye etc) but Im not surpirsed at all by the number of players who have done well since they've left, were they bad players or was it us? Which is harder to accept...? nailed

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Dear god, get a grip! ok then, grip in, buttons reset and spelled out i was implying all the "bids" and helicopter flights were made up shit and you fucking know i was lo and behold the malaysians are out sorry i didn't spell that out what are you saying? still that it'll all come good? I don't believe you were implying anything of the sort, not trying to be nasty but I just don't. Also the Malaysians aren't out, this Krishnan bloke was never in, he was just picked by the papers as the man to lead a Malaysian consortium they know nothing about because he's the richest man in Malaysia. so what do you think i was saying by something along the lines of "SHUT THE FUCK UP AND BUY THE CLUB" seriously man, fucking pitiful...i know you jumped on the fact it wasn't the malaysians who'd been talking and internet KUDOS for that but just give it up..i'm truly interested to know what you think i was saying I think it was a random angst ridden outburst, nothing more. It certainly wasn't a prophetic comment about how you believe the Malaysians aren't really interested ect ect. Dear me talk about trying to make something into something it wasn't Get over it, some people laughed at you telling a bloke who hasn't spoken to shut up and calling him a gobshite. Its funny FFS, like calling a mime a gobshite or something. But it should have ended one page ago.. He's been at it all day, i doubt he'll stop soon. Glad im off to work in a bit. Thnkafully i won't have to see this constant bollox off boy wonder. PM'd you as well you insufferable fucking wanker, so lets leave the rest of the forum in peace eh? you can bring your kids in to see your replies and show them how clever you've been Aye what a hard man you are you pathetic little spineless cunt you haven't got the balls to say any of this to my face i bet you that. You dirty little childish sack of fuking shit. i just did, on a PM, now fuck off jesus man

for us? woah

Dear god, get a grip! ok then, grip in, buttons reset and spelled out i was implying all the "bids" and helicopter flights were made up shit and you fucking know i was lo and behold the malaysians are out sorry i didn't spell that out what are you saying? still that it'll all come good? I don't believe you were implying anything of the sort, not trying to be nasty but I just don't. Also the Malaysians aren't out, this Krishnan bloke was never in, he was just picked by the papers as the man to lead a Malaysian consortium they know nothing about because he's the richest man in Malaysia. so what do you think i was saying by something along the lines of "SHUT THE FUCK UP AND BUY THE CLUB" seriously man, fucking pitiful...i know you jumped on the fact it wasn't the malaysians who'd been talking and internet KUDOS for that but just give it up..i'm truly interested to know what you think i was saying I think it was a random angst ridden outburst, nothing more. It certainly wasn't a prophetic comment about how you believe the Malaysians aren't really interested ect ect. Dear me talk about trying to make something into something it wasn't Get over it, some people laughed at you telling a bloke who hasn't spoken to shut up and calling him a gobshite. Its funny FFS, like calling a mime a gobshite or something. But it should have ended one page ago.. He's been at it all day, i doubt he'll stop soon. Glad im off to work in a bit. Thnkafully i won't have to see this constant bollox off boy wonder. PM'd you as well you insufferable fucking wanker, so lets leave the rest of the forum in peace eh? you can bring your kids in to see your replies and show them how clever you've been

Dear god, get a grip! ok then, grip in, buttons reset and spelled out i was implying all the "bids" and helicopter flights were made up shit and you fucking know i was lo and behold the malaysians are out sorry i didn't spell that out what are you saying? still that it'll all come good? I don't believe you were implying anything of the sort, not trying to be nasty but I just don't. Also the Malaysians aren't out, this Krishnan bloke was never in, he was just picked by the papers as the man to lead a Malaysian consortium they know nothing about because he's the richest man in Malaysia. so what do you think i was saying by something along the lines of "SHUT THE FUCK UP AND BUY THE CLUB" seriously man, fucking pitiful...i know you jumped on the fact it wasn't the malaysians who'd been talking and internet KUDOS for that but just give it up..i'm truly interested to know what you think i was saying I think it was a random angst ridden outburst, nothing more. It certainly wasn't a prophetic comment about how you believe the Malaysians aren't really interested ect ect. Dear me talk about trying to make something into something it wasn't Get over it, some people laughed at you telling a bloke who hasn't spoken to shut up and calling him a gobshite. Its funny FFS, like calling a mime a gobshite or something. But it should have ended one page ago.. read my PM

ah, see, you spelled it out - if only you'd implied it you'd have had two fucking nimrods hounding you like grim death

don't see why i should, this fella and his mate felt it a great forum to call me allsorts all night so why should i? Because it's fucking boring for everyone else oh yeah that, fair enough then - teasy you listening you little fucking girl?

don't see why i should, this fella and his mate felt it a great forum to call me allsorts all night so why should i?

Dear god, get a grip! ok then, grip in, buttons reset and spelled out i was implying all the "bids" and helicopter flights were made up shit and you fucking know i was lo and behold the malaysians are out sorry i didn't spell that out what are you saying? still that it'll all come good? I don't believe you were implying anything of the sort, not trying to be nasty but I just don't. Also the Malaysians aren't out, this Krishnan bloke was never in, he was just picked by the papers as the man to lead a Malaysian consortium they know nothing about because he's the richest man in Malaysia. so what do you think i was saying by something along the lines of "SHUT THE FUCK UP AND BUY THE CLUB" seriously man, fucking pitiful...i know you jumped on the fact it wasn't the malaysians who'd been talking and internet KUDOS for that but just give it up..i'm truly interested to know what you think i was saying

post of the year

The Malaysians aren't out, a Malaysian who never said he was in but a lot of people and papers speculated/hoped might be part of the group of Malaysians for the simple fact that he's the richest Malaysian is out. really? really? urgh

Dear god, get a grip! ok then, grip in, buttons reset and spelled out i was implying all the "bids" and helicopter flights were made up shit and you fucking know i was lo and behold the malaysians are out sorry i didn't spell that out what are you saying? still that it'll all come good?

erm, eh? i'm sure i've just been had by a fucking idiot? someone who'd push a joke that far would stick around for the kudos what a twat

"Shut it gobshite" i really fail to see your point. oh no wait, cheap point scoring is all there is on the internet!! that goes you too teasy, and you TT as you'll no doubt try to laud in Point scoring isn't the only thing on the internet. There's also childish outbursts indeeeeeeeeed - that's the sound of my batteries running out how do you live such a literal life sweetheart? i really wonder, or do you do it just when it suits you on, say, an internet forum where you can look smart?

i think, er, yeah...oh wait your not TT so i don't care Aww bless...you care about me? Until today i never knew you existed; and by tomorrow i'll have forgotten. aye right, you'll be wetting your pants to this for months pet Honestly, i haven't a clue who you are before today. Have we crossed paths before? just tell me you were after a chomp and i'll admit i chomped, then we can all go home but calling me a fucking retard and various other shit ain't cool, despite the fact you're patently borderline yourself - that's really the only reason i'm playing in case you had a care worker watching or something You are retarded. And i'm already at home. You commented on the PL goalscorers then have a go at me when i mention their records, then to state were not in the prem like i'd forgotten. (being a dick basically) Basically you were talking shit and had no point and no leg to stand on. That's why i asked if you were retarded. no, i asked if you'd choose this lad over our strikers who've scored a lot of goals in the PL between them and implied the collective knowledge was only from youtube 'cause one dude put the links up, which i watched, and i thought i could have scored those goals with the level of defending alls you had to say was you'd seen more and were confident he'd succeed, not call me a fucking retard and whatever else anything i'm missing there shitbird?

wow, really? jesus dude That is taking it too far, but with the right coaching I think he could do a good job in the Championship and probably beyond. What is taking it too far, my comment? yep, a nobody versus players who've scored in the PL too far Who's that then? Carroll & Ameobi? to be frank, yes...and smith and whoever else we have oh no hang on lets ride it all on a youtube video or two How many PL goals have the three of them got between them last season? How many PL goals has Smith got for us? Think i'd rather take a chance of a highly rated up and coming forward with potential and in his league top goal scorer over highly paid proven crap. To be frank, you are a fuking lunatic and need locking up. aye min, i've heard johnny broomstick from oldham is a great sweeper, lets sell bassong and taylor and sign him up, his youpoop was mint byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! EDIT: we don't play in the PL anymore sunshine You mentioned PL you moron. Fuking hell are you some kind of retard? It's not my fault your knowledge of this player is limited to youtube vids, don't tar us all with your shitty standards. wow, moron, retard...for fucks sake dude...oh i missed "lunatic who needs locking up" hope you're proud of yourself sweetheart make you feel big does it, big and strong calling people names and that? if it helps you get off i'm a broken man [balloooooooooooooon] Don't patronize me and i won't call you for what your are. Simples. fucking pathetic backtrack, piss off There's only one deluded special needs case around here who needs to piss off. so. er mods, what on earth does it take to get banned 'round here now? this guys a fucking douche and i have to just take it huh? come back nE5 Waaaaa.... So that's your plan, be a complete cock end and go fishing? Going by your other posts today i reckon so. fucking hell, this is sweet evidently i have free reign and frankly the worst i can come up with is you're patently a sad little internet hard man so fuck off you fucking clown dunno, does that meet the current N-O level of cool abuse? My god you are embarrassing. 33 years on this planet and that sad. waaaaaaaaaaaait a minute, when does calling somebody retarded become better then what i said? you f-u-c-k-i-n-g prick? just wondering, if you can drag yourself out of your own arse long enough to answer What's with the spacing of fucking like? Does it make it mean more? Dear me, comedy gold son. called emphasis, i went to school