manorpark

I suppose I should have closed this down at the beginning, but (to put it simply) we all just need to WAIT.

Are you seriously ignoring the obvious point that I made in my post?

Where do you get this "Championship Club" idea - like it is some kind of 'permanent' thing - from? Hopefully we will not be relegated, but even if we are it will not really change anything about the club, particularly under the new owners. Surely that is obvious, do you really think they will try to convert us and preserve us into this "Championship Club Thing"? The answer is NO, they will not.

It is often "said" that a new deal would need to be made in the event of our relegation. Did Ashley say that? Did PIF say that? Did the Reubens say that? Did Staveley say that?

No, I have not forgotten that, or any of the other 20,000 other things that have been said since the sale to the Consortium was announced.

I am not an optimist, I am (still) a realist. Think back to when this Takeover was announced. We got to know the calibre (financial and otherwise) of the people who had bought our club, and we got to know that the club had been SOLD. What was then needed was the Premier League to approve our new owners. THAT is still where we are at today, and the arbitration process will push this forward again, until our new owners are finally approved, which will inevitably happen.

Yep, that's my signature . . . across !

Keep the faith, all will be well, though right now (Ashley / Bruce / Relegation concerns) it is indeed hard to do so.

I don't think the Saudi's or Reubens, or Staveley, will want to sell to them, do you?

De Marco?

Where has all this ridiculous and illogical "The Takeover is Dead" rubbish suddenly coming from again?? It is total 'invented' rubbish! The main current fact that we actually KNOW about, is that Arbitration is soon going to happen . . . that means it IS NOT DEAD. Get a grip! We just need to (still, I know . . . ) W A I T.

Tony Green, Geoff Allen.

To give the "Big Six" their full name - The "Sky Big Picture Six". They are rarely the actual 'top' six, but yes they are "trying" to f**k us over, but they definitely WILL NOT succeed.

You would think that the club, and the supporters, would NEVER mention this, because of the appalling shame of how they came to 'qualify' to be entered into the tournament in the first place.

You mean aside from every journalist including the negative ones saying they are there waiting for a takeover. Aside from companies house documents linked to PIF and our club being continued on Companies house only a day ago. Aside from the club releasing a statement a few days ago saying they were pushing for this takeover to go through. I was very positive it would go through until PIF withdrew. It turns out a lot of journalists were misled by their sources, so I certainly wouldn't be in a rush to believe them this time around. Similarly the higher ups at the club are proven liars so I'd take that with a pinch of salt too. The Companies House stuff is interesting though. As is the stuff linked to Stavely's case against Barclays. I'd be absolutely delighted if it went through and we could finally look forward to rebuilding the club, but I wouldn't be at all suprised if arbitration ended with a tidy settlement for Mike and everyone moving on. Have you not yet heard what the Arbitration Panel are (and are not) looking into?

The Consortium would not buy a "Championship Club" for the money that they have agreed with Ashley to buy Newcastle United for. Hopefully, we will not be relegated, but if we are a Premier League Club in the Championship for a season - who cares? Certainly the Consortium won't care, why would they. Can people not understand the difference between a Championship Club and a Premier League Club temporarily in the Championship? After all we have done it twice under Ashley, so it would be no hardship under the Consortium and with Benitez at the helm. It would not affect the Takeover, it wouldn't really affect the development of the club under the new owners either, as they will have to replace pretty well 100% of the playing staff and non-playing staff, no matter which division we are in when they take over the club. The logic of this is obvious, but (I suppose) "cue the scatter-gun vitriol" !!!!! Ashley imho would not sell at a reduced price and nobody would pay that amount for a championship club and there lies the problem. If you think he would reduce the price fair enough, but, history doesn’t back up that theory. My post explains that the Takeover would not be affected - the 'price' will remain the same, by a season in the 2nd Division. Love your optimism but if we are relegated they will need to change the playing staff twice, good premiership players aren't going to play in the championship so we will need players to get us out and then players to progress in the Premier league. Good Premier League players will join us no matter what division we are temporarily in. The plans, ambitions and objectives of the "New Newcastle United FC" will be very plainly understood by everyone in the football world. Indeed, they already are by the EPL . . . hence their gut-reaction opposition to the Takeover (using whatever 'situations' they can conjure up to somehow justify that opposition).

The Consortium would not buy a "Championship Club" for the money that they have agreed with Ashley to buy Newcastle United for. Hopefully, we will not be relegated, but if we are a Premier League Club in the Championship for a season - who cares? Certainly the Consortium won't care, why would they. Can people not understand the difference between a Championship Club and a Premier League Club temporarily in the Championship? After all we have done it twice under Ashley, so it would be no hardship under the Consortium and with Benitez at the helm. It would not affect the Takeover, it wouldn't really affect the development of the club under the new owners either, as they will have to replace pretty well 100% of the playing staff and non-playing staff, no matter which division we are in when they take over the club. The logic of this is obvious, but (I suppose) "cue the scatter-gun vitriol" !!!!! Ashley imho would not sell at a reduced price and nobody would pay that amount for a championship club and there lies the problem. If you think he would reduce the price fair enough, but, history doesn’t back up that theory. My post explains that the Takeover would not be affected - the 'price' will remain the same, by a season in the 2nd Division. So you really think they would pay the same price for a championship club? I think you’re living in lala land there mind if you do. As I say above, a Premier League Club in the Championship for a season (with all their money and Benitez) is a very different animal to a "Championship Club".

The Consortium would not buy a "Championship Club" for the money that they have agreed with Ashley to buy Newcastle United for. Hopefully, we will not be relegated, but if we are a Premier League Club in the Championship for a season - who cares? Certainly the Consortium won't care, why would they. Can people not understand the difference between a Championship Club and a Premier League Club temporarily in the Championship? After all we have done it twice under Ashley, so it would be no hardship under the Consortium and with Benitez at the helm. It would not affect the Takeover, it wouldn't really affect the development of the club under the new owners either, as they will have to replace pretty well 100% of the playing staff and non-playing staff, no matter which division we are in when they take over the club. The logic of this is obvious, but (I suppose) "cue the scatter-gun vitriol" !!!!! Ashley imho would not sell at a reduced price and nobody would pay that amount for a championship club and there lies the problem. If you think he would reduce the price fair enough, but, history doesn’t back up that theory. My post explains that the Takeover would not be affected - the 'price' will remain the same, by a season in the 2nd Division.

If you read my post you will see that your argument does not apply.

The Consortium would not buy a "Championship Club" for the money that they have agreed with Ashley to buy Newcastle United for. Hopefully, we will not be relegated, but if we are a Premier League Club in the Championship for a season - who cares? Certainly the Consortium won't care, why would they. Can people not understand the difference between a Championship Club and a Premier League Club temporarily in the Championship? After all we have done it twice under Ashley, so it would be no hardship under the Consortium and with Benitez at the helm. It would not affect the Takeover, it wouldn't really affect the development of the club under the new owners either, as they will have to replace pretty well 100% of the playing staff and non-playing staff, no matter which division we are in when they take over the club. The logic of this is obvious, but (I suppose) "cue the scatter-gun vitriol" !!!!! The concern is if Ashley thinks like you. "If we go down, we'll just come straight back up" There is no guarantee of that happening due to Ashley's negligence since we came back up. If we go down this year, it would take a monumental effort to come straight back up. Under the very wealthy and ambitious new owners and with Benitez in charge.

The Consortium would not buy a "Championship Club" for the money that they have agreed with Ashley to buy Newcastle United for. Hopefully, we will not be relegated, but if we are a Premier League Club in the Championship for a season - who cares? Certainly the Consortium won't care, why would they. Can people not understand the difference between a Championship Club and a Premier League Club temporarily in the Championship? After all we have done it twice under Ashley, so it would be no hardship under the Consortium and with Benitez at the helm. It would not affect the Takeover, it wouldn't really affect the development of the club under the new owners either, as they will have to replace pretty well 100% of the playing staff and non-playing staff, no matter which division we are in when they take over the club. The logic of this is obvious, but (I suppose) "cue the scatter-gun vitriol" !!!!!

Thanks everyone. I will never lose my huge enthusiasm for this great City, it's great people and it's great Football Club. That is why I cannot contain my excitement about the immensity of what is to come.

To use a good old English expression . . "Crikey". I have never posted anything unrealistic in my life, if you think something I have posted is . . then you know where the problem lies. Until I gave it up, I have had a Season Ticket at St James' since Season 1969/1970 (I was the original 'glory hunter' after we won the Fairs Cup . . hmm!!) so I am more knowledgeable and 'interested in' NUFC than most people I know. However, the only thing that really matters to NUFC in 2020 and 2021 is the Takeover, which is why that is absolutely the only thing worth posting about until it happens. To the word 'Crikey', I would add (about your comments) the word 'Dispiriting'. Crikey that takes me back.....feyenoord, Rangers semi -final and the glorious Upjest Dosza in the final...I wonder how many of us,Manorpark, who are on this forum who were around in our “glory Days" A couple of years ago, in 2019, I celebrated the "50th Anniversary" of our Fairs Cup Win with this long thread, with hundreds of photos and memories HERE . . . https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/fairs-cup-newcastle-united-and-the-1969-fairs-cup-win-50th-anniversary-1969-to-2019.2177948/post-159296132

To use a good old English expression . . "Crikey". I have never posted anything unrealistic in my life, if you think something I have posted is . . then you know where the problem lies. Until I gave it up, I have had a Season Ticket at St James' since Season 1969/1970 (I was the original 'glory hunter' after we won the Fairs Cup . . hmm!!) so I am more knowledgeable and 'interested in' NUFC than most people I know. However, the only thing that really matters to NUFC in 2020 and 2021 is the Takeover, which is why that is absolutely the only thing worth posting about until it happens. To the word 'Crikey', I would add (about your comments) the word 'Dispiriting'.

Couldn't possibly be more different. Trump fans are (by definition) idiots. People who support NUFC and are also able to distinguish a 'win' from a 'loss' - are uniquely talanted!