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Do you even know our history? To understand that all we ask for is free flowing, attacking football. Just look at the managers past, it's clear to see the successful ones are the ones that impose our game on other teams and the managers who have been hounded out play, well, your kind of football!

I've had a few cracked ribs in years past, very painful, even a sneeze or a cough will floor you. So kudos to Papiss if he's playing through one, though I imagine he'll be on better painkillers than I was!

That was an embarrassing dive, Bayern are good for their win but this ref has been useless! One offside goal, one blatant foul before the third goal! Feels like watching one of our matches!

Divvent be daft marra 6th next year!!

I just can't see anything in Pardews locker but a flat 4-4-2 with Carroll in the team, there's no way he'd be on the bench as a plan b. it'll be the first half if the season all over again only worse as I rate Ba over Carroll IMO.

Nothing to do with formations there is more to do with football than formations..... Its due to how little movement and how the players are completely and utterly shackled by Pardew's tactics. We never have more than a couple of a players in the box at a time, that is the reason we struggle to create we are always too deep and trying to cross to two players who have no aerial power in the box and just watching the ball come back at us time and again. http://i71.servimg.com/u/f71/16/55/20/10/nufc10.png Out of all that playing in our own half is the key reason why we struggle to create and score goals, the formation is irrelevant what is relevant how ever is the tactics and mentality of the manager. Everton and Liverpool hardly have bigger and stronger squads but what they do have vastly superior coaches. I know that man and I agree with you. Exactly what I've been saying all week, there's no movement, no outlet, Pardew screams at the players to get back, there's nothing they can do but hoof it forward. It's the manager who is responsible for the lacklustre displays cuz there's nothing they're allowed to do!

Norwich and Wba play well on the deck with very limited sides. Don't even need Swansea as a yardstick tbh - they are lightyears ahead of us in their general play. Totally agree, was just referencing a quote by Ronaldo. There aren't that many in the league that play hit and hope tbh, it's just a panic mode we seem to go into every match at some point and Pardew should be screaming at them to keep it on the deck but he seems happy for us to do it.

I'd love for us to play somewhere between Swansea and Barca, but I'd settle for a bit of pass and move and venturing out of our own area with the ball on the floor, utilising a decent midfield rather than hoofing it to a midget and watching it come back for 70 minutes a game. I want to see us go after a game and not nervously try and cling on to a slender 1-0 for 80-odd minutes!

You can blame the players all you like, as a retail manager I can blame my staff if my store is under performing but if my staff aren't performing who do you think my area manager blames? It's my fault they aren't doing there job down to my handling/training of them. Ergo the buck has to stop at the managers door, Pardew has more than capable players in his team, the fact that they aren't performing HAS to be his responsibility.

Our aim this year was a top 8 finish according to the tactically inept one, he has a stronger team than the one thy finished 5th and no Europe to contend with and he expects us to swallow a top 10 target?? Typical cowardly Pardew, aiming for the stars!

Real football & goals Where's the fucking tactics man??? Crazy bastards, what kind of team tries to score again after going 1-0 up?? They'll regret that, they should have played for the draw!

I haven't even been able to take satisfaction from the Europa League, yes it was great getting so far and finally being back in Europe where we belong, but, damn we were bloody aweful for most of it and an embarrassment to ourselves. We had some lucky/scrappy wins.

The air is foul with the stench of BS

You've got to imagine that Ashley can't be happy with this at all, the "plan" isn't working as someone else pointed out a few pages back as our players are depreciating rather than us having the ability to sell on at inflated prices. That coupled with the value of the club in general depreciating, yes we're on a better financial footing and we're being more prudent in that sense, but even so a club in 17th is worth much less than a club fighting for Europe. A failing club with depreciating players in not a valued investment, Ashley, a shrewd business man will not stand for that for long. I bet if one of his SD stores was haemorrhaging money the store manager would be binned rather quick, I don't see this as being any different in his eyes. That. Is. All.

I don't profess to be any kind of footballing expert, however I do understand the basic principals of pass and move, pressing the ball and man/zonal marking, all tactics that seem to elude Pardew. Here's one for the twitter thread, Football 101 by Alan Pardew. Inexcusable!

That is exactly where I am right now Yorkie, after January and seeing our players coming back there was a glimmer of hope he could turn it around and I was happy to persevere but after THAT display on Sunday he's completely lost me. It's taken me until now to come back on here and articulate how I feel without filling the page with obseneties! How can a manager not enjoy any sort of success with this crop of players? I've a feeling he'll get at the very least until Christmas but if he's to be replaced we need to give someone a full preseason to get us going again.

Like I said, I think it's the general opinion that stability breeds success, I.e Alex Ferguson et al and I also think that given what happened with him historically may lead to Pardew being given more time yet. Agreed stability does bring a modecum of success, you can see that with teams like Arsenal and Man U but would anyone put Pardew on an equal footing with Wenger or Ferguson? You need a decent manager as well as stability. Chelsea and Man City have a history of removing managers due to a few bad results, and in that sense I agree, they've had some amazing managers they've binned because they've only won one trophy that season, now that's insane.

Good post. Ironically enough given the opinions on here I think one of the things they'd have to contend with if they binned him is fan discontent. Not that I think they give a s***. It's essential that if we do replace him, we replace him well. Ashley has shown he doesn't give a toss who he upsets if he thinks he's making the right decision. Rightly or wrongly we have a reputation for getting on our managers back and I think in some way that has affected people's opinion on Pardew, the constant drilling of the idealism of stability is also a factor. Even taking the above into account though, we're in a rut and Pardew hasn't the tactical nous to bring us out and utilise the strengths of our players, we have one of the strongest midfields in the league on paper but we're being out battled and outplayed by teams of Sunderlands ilk. We're 2 strikers away from having one of the strongest sides I've ever seen in black and white, we're a long way away from that on the pitch and the buck has to stop with Pardew. How do you think we would fair with this team under the late Sir Bobby, so is our current predicament acceptable? I'd say not!

Surely flirting so close to relegation and some embarrassing results, not least of which against our biggest rivals for bragging rights and a minimum expectation of a top 8 finish is enough to bury him?! Agreed its no good sacking him so close to the end of the season whilst being dangerously close to relegation, I think Ashley will have learnt from last time that management changes in this predicament can have serious adverse effects. Once we're safe, we should bin him, there are NO excuses for this season, especially after the purchases made in January, plus even the thickest of football fans can see our players are going backwards in quality at an alarming rate! Even the newest additions such as Sissoko, who looked a beast when he joined is looking jaded, unskilled and disinterested. Rant over, just sick of the shit performances, lack of cohesion, tactics, movement, pressing and marking and sick to death of the constant stream of bullshit we get fed after every match!!

That's exactly what we're doing now now I mean more so without any attempt to play it through midfield. With Carroll he'd have the perfect excuse!

We need his presence in the team, would add a dimension we're currently missing and would score some crucial goals for us. However I'm worried it would fuel Pardews desire for hoofball and iradecate an excellent midfield.

On one hand would love them to go down, on the other would like the opportunity to exact our revenge for the embarrassing shambles we witnessed on Sunday. Hopefully after Pardew gets replaced!

I'd like to say no but I don't wanna lie to you bimpy, I couldn't look myself in the mirror ever again. I just want to see some nice, smile inducing footy. I'm going to get a game of containment, caution and lack of urgency aren't i ? This I don't get, we have the players and the skill to turn it on and really rip a team of this ilk apart, we saw it last season, only a year ago, with less quality players. I'm sick of us playing to nullify the opposition strengths instead of playing to our own. I hope we play with the shackles off and just allow the players to show their mettle, I just don't think I can take the disappointment of thinking we will. We'll see in 60 hours time! Hope I'm wrong but think you're right Pardew !!, his mentality on how the game should be played is why we play how we do. I don't understand why he won't just let loose a bit. He's shown he's capable of allowing for games like the I.e. the arsenal and Manyoo games earlier in the season, we went at them and it nearly paid off, why not against a lesser team? I really hope we smash them, not least because my area manager is a scum supporter. Smash, i like this.....i like this a lot Aye and by smash I mean smash their back doors in, going in dry with as much rippage as possible! Erm.........you scare me. Don't worry Bimpy you're not my type,

I'd like to say no but I don't wanna lie to you bimpy, I couldn't look myself in the mirror ever again. I just want to see some nice, smile inducing footy. I'm going to get a game of containment, caution and lack of urgency aren't i ? This I don't get, we have the players and the skill to turn it on and really rip a team of this ilk apart, we saw it last season, only a year ago, with less quality players. I'm sick of us playing to nullify the opposition strengths instead of playing to our own. I hope we play with the shackles off and just allow the players to show their mettle, I just don't think I can take the disappointment of thinking we will. We'll see in 60 hours time! Hope I'm wrong but think you're right Pardew !!, his mentality on how the game should be played is why we play how we do. I don't understand why he won't just let loose a bit. He's shown he's capable of allowing for games like the I.e. the arsenal and Manyoo games earlier in the season, we went at them and it nearly paid off, why not against a lesser team? I really hope we smash them, not least because my area manager is a scum supporter. Smash, i like this.....i like this a lot Aye and by smash I mean smash their back doors in, going in dry with as much rippage as possible!

I'd like to say no but I don't wanna lie to you bimpy, I couldn't look myself in the mirror ever again. I just want to see some nice, smile inducing footy. I'm going to get a game of containment, caution and lack of urgency aren't i ? This I don't get, we have the players and the skill to turn it on and really rip a team of this ilk apart, we saw it last season, only a year ago, with less quality players. I'm sick of us playing to nullify the opposition strengths instead of playing to our own. I hope we play with the shackles off and just allow the players to show their mettle, I just don't think I can take the disappointment of thinking we will. We'll see in 60 hours time! Hope I'm wrong but think you're right Pardew !!, his mentality on how the game should be played is why we play how we do. I don't understand why he won't just let loose a bit. He's shown he's capable of allowing for games like the I.e. the arsenal and Manyoo games earlier in the season, we went at them and it nearly paid off, why not against a lesser team? I really hope we smash them, not least because my area manager is a scum supporter.