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It's not a load of nonsense, man. You all have gone mad. It's a bad tackle that has caused a bad injury. Fine. This is understood. People's legs are broken on the pitch all of the time. We can increase the penalties for bad tackles within football. This is acceptable It's the same as charging a racing car pilot with murder because he made a bad move that led to a deadly accident. This would be madness. Football is not the same as walking on the street, and there are inherent risks when you walk on the pitch. You don't call the police after every incident. That is literal insanity. The only way police could get involved is if there is an incident that is far separated from what is part of football. De Jong's tackle was not that. The game itself is "policed" by the referee, and the sport by the FA. They should deal severely with intended acts of violence which cause serious injury. When they fail in their duties to do so, there is no reason why the victims should not turn to common law to obtain justice and recompense for loss of earnings/investment etc. If this does go legal then it will be the fault of a very dodgy referee and an incompetent FA to deal with it properly in house. I'm also fairly sure that if a F1 driver made a deliberate move that put another driver in hospital or worse then he wouldn't be racing for a long time. The key is the intent behind the move, if De Jong and Ben Arfa were going for a 50:50 and their legs got caught together then its an accident. Mark Webbers impression of Superman in a car earlier this season was an accident. However, De Jong went in to put Ben Arfa out of this particular game either mentally or physically. We've all been in games where the manager has said to rough up the keeper, or 'keep the little quick un quiet'. He went too far in this, it was a deliberate act and he should be punished. Yes, but you could never prove intent on a tackle unless the player admitted it. Err... isn't that what the process of law and the judiciary is for ? To decide if there was intent. Do you also think murder, theft, fraud etc can not be proven unless the perpetrator admits guilt ? If it hadn't been for a very dodgy referee and an incompetent and ignorant football association it could have been concluded already. Deciding if there was intent and handing down punishment is the job of the FA (and FIFA). Tackling is part of the game. Should he have been punished - sent off, suspended, and possibly fined? Yes, yes, and yes. The FA and FIFA need to do a much better job of policing their game. Does he belong in jail? Of course not.

It's not a load of nonsense, man. You all have gone mad. It's a bad tackle that has caused a bad injury. Fine. This is understood. People's legs are broken on the pitch all of the time. We can increase the penalties for bad tackles within football. This is acceptable It's the same as charging a racing car pilot with murder because he made a bad move that led to a deadly accident. This would be madness. Football is not the same as walking on the street, and there are inherent risks when you walk on the pitch. You don't call the police after every incident. That is literal insanity. The only way police could get involved is if there is an incident that is far separated from what is part of football. De Jong's tackle was not that. The game itself is "policed" by the referee, and the sport by the FA. They should deal severely with intended acts of violence which cause serious injury. When they fail in their duties to do so, there is no reason why the victims should not turn to common law to obtain justice and recompense for loss of earnings/investment etc. If this does go legal then it will be the fault of a very dodgy referee and an incompetent FA to deal with it properly in house. I'm also fairly sure that if a F1 driver made a deliberate move that put another driver in hospital or worse then he wouldn't be racing for a long time. The key is the intent behind the move, if De Jong and Ben Arfa were going for a 50:50 and their legs got caught together then its an accident. Mark Webbers impression of Superman in a car earlier this season was an accident. However, De Jong went in to put Ben Arfa out of this particular game either mentally or physically. We've all been in games where the manager has said to rough up the keeper, or 'keep the little quick un quiet'. He went too far in this, it was a deliberate act and he should be punished. Yes, but you could never prove intent on a tackle unless the player admitted it.

As if I didn't hate them enough. Fuck off John Henry.

It's not a load of nonsense, man. You all have gone mad. It's a bad tackle that has caused a bad injury. Fine. This is understood. People's legs are broken on the pitch all of the time. We can increase the penalties for bad tackles within football. This is acceptable It's the same as charging a racing car pilot with murder because he made a bad move that led to a deadly accident. This would be madness. Football is not the same as walking on the street, and there are inherent risks when you walk on the pitch. You don't call the police after every incident. That is literal insanity. The only way police could get involved is if there is an incident that is far separated from what is part of football. De Jong's tackle was not that. Spot on.

I know it sucks for those who have made travel plans, but good news for those of us in the USA. Liverpool and Wigan games will likely be on FSC and WBA on FSC+.

It's unbelievable that he doesn't start.

Nah, don't worry. They will be dreaming of Europe League Thursday nights a year or two from now.

What does this even mean? What statistics say we would win that game 2 out of 3 times? We didn't play better overall. We played better in the first half (but created next to nothing) and they outplayed us in the second half. Even without the poor substitutions we probably would have lost or at least settled for a point. The horrible subs were the nail in the coffin.

because its f***ing sam allerdyce Yeah, hate him too. Care a hell of a lot more about our safety though.

Should be back well before. They have three matches that week, plus CL before and after. Doubt he will play.

Why are people upset about Blackburn? No way they are going down. Don't need Blackpool getting more points.

Almunia is a pathetic keeper.

If the bank takes over and doesn't find a buyer by January, will they start asset stripping (sell Torres/Gerrard, etc.)?

Didn't people say he was fast? I mentioned this in the match thread, but the times I've seen him it looks like he's running in mud. The body parts are moving, but he's just not going anywhere.

Just before the Mackem game Yup...does that change anything for anyone?

Holy shit!!!! Where are you going in NJ?

I've never seen him in the reserves, but the times I've seen Vuckic he hasn't done a single thing that has impressed me. Didn't people say he's fast? Always looks like he's running in mud.

Jonas looks terrible after seeing Ben Arfa. Night and day.

That was some of the sloppiest shit I've ever seen.

Hughton is such a dork. He looks like a kid in a new school that's late for class.

I know a lot of people dislike him, but I think Ronaldo has to be included. His season three years ago may be the most dominant individual performance the Premiership has ever seen. Schmeichel Adams Campbell Cole Ronaldo Keane Vieira Giggs Bergkamp Shearer Henry Went with a 3-4-3 so I could exclude the little rat Neville and include Bergkamp.

Has it ever even happened before? Derby. Wasn't it 2-2 at home? Lost 1-0 away?

About to pull the trigger on FSC.tv. This is a joke.

This is slightly off topic, but it's still betting so... I'm betting an Arsenal supporting friend of mine on the two matches this season. The rules we have decided on so far: I win if Newcastle wins either game or both end in draws. In order for him to win the bet, he needs Arsenal to win one, draw one or win both and attain a certain GD. He thinks 2.5 is fair. I'm even skeptical at 3.5, but would probably do it. Thoughts?

So the players return to their clubs a day sooner.