Doctor Zaius

Been a good game this

He's basically done like. 33 in a few months and he just cant stay fit anymore. Plethora of muscle injuries, two ACLs, and years as an elite athlete does that. Been a good player for us between the injuries. Even if he was to return, given his age and the amount of time he's had out over the last two seasons, hes not going to be the player he was. The thing is, we knew all this. Yet we did nothing about it.

If anything there has to be more highlighting of PSR, at no point should we begrudgingly accept something thats solely in place to prevent us progressing.

Gotta be the end for Gaz O'Neul surely

At no point have I tried to rewrite how he was. He was killing the club and we were woeful on the pitch and the response from the fanbase was fractured at best. Had we been finishing 6th/7th every season, the opposition to him would have been minimal, particularly from match going fans, which was my original point. You're entitled to think in wrong all you want.

In a world where Mike Ashley's Newcastle had finished consistently in Europe (winning consistently) there would have been less of a fuck given about how he ran the club - rightly or wrongly. That's my point. Genuinely don't think it's that hard to understand.

We weren't winning games with any sort of consistency. We never finished above fucking 10th in a decade aside from that one season under Pardew. Had we been regularly qualifying for Europe under him, there would have been less noise about his running of the club, because like I say, results matter. Im not fucking claiming grass isn't fuckin green here like. Christ alive.

You said it flippantly to trying diminish the point I'm making about results on the pitch being of the utmost importance. It wasnt just a few bad league positions and that was the ire of most people's anger, that's my point. The banners, the protests, the boycotts wouldn't have been as prevalent if we were somehow achieving on the field, without doubt. Results are more important than anything else for the majority in my opinion, whether you share that opinion or not, I don't really care. Not sure why you keep signing off with 'you do you' either as if it's some kind of withering put down.

It wasn't just a few crap league finishes though was it? It was going to be three relegations despite no PL relegation prior. It was going to be a solitary season in Europe. It was going to be year on year of absolute turgid football under footballing dinosaurs. Calling it 'a few crap league finishes' is a rewrite of history itself. The asset stripping, running the club for his own interest, lack of investment amongst a plethora of bad decisions all essentially translated to the above. One criticism was of his business practices, there was frequent criticism from a moral standpoint of his treatment of workers and how he should never have been associated with NUFC. It's a bit of an elephant in the room that one these days if we're honest. Im hardly trying to rewrite history by stating that, in my opinion the crux of the matter for the majority of football fans boils down to results on the pitch.

I have absolutely no doubt that Eddie Howe is trying. If he loses the next five/ten/fifteen games then trying won't be enough to placate the majority of the fanbase. You can extrapolate that to the ownership over a relevant time frame. That equates to a demand of on field progress/winning for me, regardless of what was written on some banner, however many years ago.

Clearly my research and education, or lack of is causing me to miss a wider point here then. Why don't you enlighten me? His risk to the clubs future wouldn't have been down to hurtling towards a third relegation under his tenure would it? Or the years of finishing lower mid table?

I guess that's where we differ in opinion then. The old adage of it being a results business is at the crux of it for me. Perhaps I'm just more cynical about your average fan.

Meh. We wanted rid of Ashley because he held the club back - which led to poor results on the field. We wanted PIF in because there's we'd progress under them. Is there actually much more to it?

I think every football fan of every club demands relative progress on the field. If that demand isn't met, then they call for whatever is hindering that progress to be rectified - whether that's the manager, ownership or players. At the heart of it all, it's a demand for on field progress, which basically equates to winning games. Scrape it all down and that's ultimately the top and bottom of it as far as I can see.

I mean for the most part yes. That's what we all want. Newcastle United to win games of football. That's the top and bottom of it. It's absolute nonsense to suggest otherwise imo. I always thought that banner was sanctimonious shite too. Nobody gives a flying fuck how Mike Ashley, PIF or any other cunt is running the club if we're consistently winning games. They certainly do if we aren't.

He's been sold up the river by PSR but his style doesn't suit a side that is this jaded. We need to be firing on all cylinders for his intense style and we look stale as fuck. You could argue that he's no longer getting the best out of Bruno, Gordon, Tonali and the likes. All big money signings. Could well be 13th by the end of the day. Away from is horrendous. Faltering more and more at home. Don't want him gone but it doesn't look good.

Premier League have got exactly as they wanted. Nobody challenge the 'big six'.

Fucking hell Schar

Please let this be the last we see of fucking Almiron in an NUFC shirt like, fuck me

Been crap this second half like. Can't keep ahold of the ball, creating absolutely fuck all.

Played well imo

We waste so many chances man

Barnes 😂

Tonali on the bench why?

Cannot believe he's blown there man. Did Isak take 5 seconds to line up that fee kick like? Incompetent cunts man.