Neil

Bloody hell, a bit of luck went my way. Had Deportivo, Genoa, Fiorentina and Sivasspor at 24/1. Only had a quid on it, but I couldn't care, a win!

What's been unlucky about recent home games like? Err, Man City, last minute goal conceded, Wigan, Late goal conceded, Stoke, last minute goal conceded. How's that unlucky? Nothing to do with bad defending, ey? No. So, how's it unlucky? Last chance, ball can go anywhere, it ends up in the net. 3 f***ing times. Unlucky. I find it unbelievable you think it has nothing to do with the defence. But I'll leave it at that as to not ruin the thread.

Imo a draw wouldn't have been unfair. Not sure where this whole "we dominated" malarky is coming from. Overall, an even game, and in the end it was a bit of magic from Viduka that won it.

Agree with the Prophet's comments, I think the nature of the league has to be taken into account. The fact it's so close really does leave 2/3 of the Premiership on a knife-edge, and could not safely predict the sort of position they'll find themselves in, in 2 or 3 games time.

They weren't looking too clever when he first came in. Aye, why was that again? Im sure something canny big had just happened. Not the point. These good players were looking totally lost and lacked confidence, he's whipped them into shape and we look like a premiership football team again. Credit him for that. Too right, I agree. Just like Roeder did. Some caretakers have done well, most don't, but its no reason to make a judgement either way. Every case is different. Agree with the last bit in particular. Kinnear could lead Newcastle to a top 10 position and pushing towards Europe. It's entirely unpredictable. But he's garunteed to fail long term. Its a fact. What a fantastic mentality. Yep, its great isnt it?, anyone who thinks giving Kinnear the job full time will result in anything other than spending another 5 years in the football wilderness is having a laugh. Im all for giving people a chance, just not desperate chancers who by some strange alignment of the planets couldnt believe his luck when he ended up in the job. Its been said, hes Glenn Roeder mark 2 and no Everton fan will persuade me otherwise. And this Everton fan isn't trying to persuade you into thinking he should be given the job long-term. Nor would I be stupid enough to speculate this. I don't agree with the logic of him being like Roeder though, as every example has different circumstances.

They weren't looking too clever when he first came in. Aye, why was that again? Im sure something canny big had just happened. Not the point. These good players were looking totally lost and lacked confidence, he's whipped them into shape and we look like a premiership football team again. Credit him for that. Too right, I agree. Just like Roeder did. Some caretakers have done well, most don't, but its no reason to make a judgement either way. Every case is different. Agree with the last bit in particular. Kinnear could lead Newcastle to a top 10 position and pushing towards Europe. It's entirely unpredictable. But he's garunteed to fail long term. Its a fact. What a fantastic mentality.

What's been unlucky about recent home games like? Err, Man City, last minute goal conceded, Wigan, Late goal conceded, Stoke, last minute goal conceded. How's that unlucky? Nothing to do with bad defending, ey? No. So, how's it unlucky?

They weren't looking too clever when he first came in. Aye, why was that again? Im sure something canny big had just happened. Not the point. These good players were looking totally lost and lacked confidence, he's whipped them into shape and we look like a premiership football team again. Credit him for that. Too right, I agree. Just like Roeder did. Some caretakers have done well, most don't, but its no reason to make a judgement either way. Every case is different. Agree with the last bit in particular. Kinnear could lead Newcastle to a top 10 position and pushing towards Europe. It's entirely unpredictable.

What about for Everton Lien? Do you still need a right back? Surprisingly Neville has been canny recently, less irritating than usual. Ideally yes we do, but we have bigger concerns, i.e. a quality attacking mid.

Pace (particularly in today's game), intelligence (e.g. decision making) and technique, to combine pace and intelligence into success.

What's been unlucky about recent home games like? Err, Man City, last minute goal conceded, Wigan, Late goal conceded, Stoke, last minute goal conceded. How's that unlucky? Nothing to do with bad defending, ey?

What's been unlucky about recent home games like?

31st December 05 iirc.

Have you ever been to a football match? Oh come on GG, they should at least be having a picnic and a nice cup of tea.

So has anyone else ran out of paper keeping tally of the lucky breaks Liverpool have got this season?

Not a goalie? He'd be almost as good as Carragher.

oh christ. With atm being the operative word in that statement, is it really that unrealistic a statement? Yes. I don't think it is. I'm not saying that he is a better player that some of the top defenders in the league, but he is playing bloody well at the moment. If we're going to say who's in the best form relative to how well they can potentially play, then imo I guess he's somewhere up there. Unfortunately that's unquantifiable. This doesn't however mean he's in the top X defenders. He's a solid tidy defender who's playing well, when the team plays well.

oh christ. With atm being the operative word in that statement, is it really that unrealistic a statement? Yes.

I love the sound of knees smashing off desks

Viduka wins the game with a bit of class. Simple as that.

Pretty pathetic from Huddlestone

Dare I say, ruthless from Kinnear?

That's bloody hilarious. I wonder what awful event contrived to go against City today. Whats that Mark, you're just plain s**t? Oh, right.

He must be up to his whole 'sensing' again.