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Oh, look at that, Cronky thinks Keegan is 'stupid'. I for one am stunned.

Any chance you can link that? http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=257929 You can only look at a certain number of pages for some reason, it won't let me see any more. Am I fuck signing up to read any more of that shite. another club with a shite forum

One thing I've learned over the last 4-5 years is that one of the stupidest things you can do as a football fan is ignore the opinions of fans who've already experienced a player or manager. Particularly the case with managers. I've done it plenty of times but it pretty much always comes back to bite you in the arse eventually when it all turns out to be accurate. Nowhere has that rang true more with all the grim stuff I read on Charlton boards about Pardew.

stupid tory idiot

That was a photoshop man

July 1

H8er ^^

Also he apparently openly admits to not really liking football that much and simply sees it as a job he's good at. I don't really get that impression going off his Twitter account mind but it wouldn't be a surprise.

He's clearly a ludicrously raw footballer considering the fact he's 29 but he's still a loveable hilarious little scamp

Thing is, I'm stunned he's made it as a professional footballer never mind top flight. He is the beneciary of significant good fortune throughout his career.

imagine that being your club

I've heard from a pretty good source that he turned down 6k a week. This was before Christmas. Clearly nowt has happened since so I wouldn't be surprised.

His career has been downhill since he made that ridiculous move to Monaco when he was at the peak of his career, which was his agent's doing. He's going to be remembered for nothing in the game.

Phenomenal euphemism

worst since..... Sunday

beyond grim

in tears at the injury time Palace winner

Fuck this shit

the absolute state of Pardew vs Carver in a league worth the GDP of a small country

They earn their money. Of course, sometimes their advice doesn't pay off, but most of the time the players are still well rewarded financially. Players aren't like fans, most of them don't have a dog in this fight. They look after themselves and fair play to them. I imagine the average worker doesn't really care about their company. They care about it doing well when they're there, but if they leave? It's just another company, like the millions out there. The players feel the same way, IMO. Agents also handle stuff like contracts and negotiations which most players don't have a clue how to do. They also have contacts in the game that family members of players don't. Look at someone like Mendes who will move players to clubs where he's close to the owners. This is obviously to the benefit of the players because Mendes' influence allows him to get players higher wages. I don't understand the hate for agents. They're the best thing going for players. I don't see agents that act against their client's best interests regularly and without them, more of the profit in football would go to owners. I don't see why the system should be like that that. Anyway, the craziest thing about this deal is that it's a domestic deal. I don't understand why people in England pay so much to watch football on TV and why no other country is willing to pay the same? The difference is becoming an order of magnitude. Why do Dutch people don't want to pay to watch Ajax on TV? Why are they willing to pay so little? We're not even talking about foreign money. We're simply talking domestic, which is crazy. Pip, you're a staunch free market neoliberal, I'm unsurprised you support the role people like agents who are essentially a parasite making money for not really doing, creating or having any discernible talent themselves. Like I said, there's numerous people fulfilling jobs like this now who are making money out of nothing which apparently makes them commendable. You mention Mendes. Is he good? Is he good for footballers? He doesn't seem to have done much for Falcao's career or Hulk's career in recent years. Unless all that really matters is making 300k a week instead of 200k. I'm sure looking at the fees and wages involved for the players he's made himself a lot of dodgy Russian money in the process though. And this guy is supposed to be an example of a top agent. I dread to think about all the low end agents pushing their clients between various clubs to get their slice.

He was Russian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitri_Kharine

Disagree. Really not sure that agents need to exist. They're just another example of one of these middle-man jobs where somebody is making a lot of money despite not really creating anything of value themselves; e.g. ticket touts or buy-to-let lenders. There is also an obvious and inherent conflict of interest at play in that a large amount of the time they're not getting the best deal for the player but getting the best deal for themselves, prioritising the immediate short term. Hence why you see numerous players making bad moves to a big club's academy or to some footballing backwater that doesn't benefit their career or their earnings in the long run but makes the agent some cash in the short term. I mean, maybe they do push the wages up for players across the board but I'm pretty convinced they're simply performing a role that the player or a family member could quite easily do themself. Players have all the power now regardless of whether they have agents or not; Bosman saw to that.

It's probably not on its own, but I was of the impression that battling for the TV rights is all to do with selling the lot together with phone and broadband packages.

Really hope he fucking dies, I'll tapdance a number all over his fucking grave. Wart of capitalism.