Frazzle

He linked up well with Ferguson. Isn't that the point anyway? He's got no-one to pass to? Barcelona play a short passing game so he'll have players around him more often than not.

He's good at keeping possession and normally does so with Jonas. The biggest problem is that as a team we're generally crap at keeping the ball. He'd do alright with Barcelona I reckon.

Around £25m should be enough?

I think a lot seem to be applying for the SE corner.

Its Gervinho

Not 100%, but: - He has confirmed he's joining us. - His manager has confirmed he's joining us. - Our own website "accidentally" uploaded a holding page for a video entitled "Cabaye's first interview". I think all in all it'll just be a case of him passing a medical (if he hasn't already) once he's finished international duty. sweet...but isn´t his national duty over? Only a matter of hours ago, give him a chance! Edit - or maybe it isn't....

Always wondered the same with a few players.

Should be just about enough to cover Bruce's operation. He's done the required time dressing up as a woman now.

Jesus. I still can't work out what he does as well. £53m for him and Carroll is mental, someone has more money than sense.

Just looks like its been painted on

Why is this contract even being renegotiated now? What's the rush?

Shorts

Just London.

Carroll still brought more than goals. Defending set pieces especially.

Of course there were: there always are. They were saying the same thing after Istanbul. Every club has its idiot supporters. That should be pretty obvious to an NUFC fan, I'd imagine. If you want to do what the media does and pick and choose your fans to back up your angle, that's your prerogative. Doesn't make it right, though. The vast majority of knowledgable LFC fans did not want Rafa to leave, and he remains a hero. You were replying to a post which said Liverpool fans wanted Benitez out and said "What? No, we were screaming for the owners to f*** off. Rafa's a f***ing legend." Like I said, that may be true for you but you're not speaking on behalf of the Liverpool fanbase when you say that, which is what my point was.

Peter Crouch, Gary Cahill and Steve Clarke. We really are running out of options.

This is my point though, there's plenty of posts just like this in the Carroll thread in 2009. As I said, I don't know if he'll turn out to be the next Carroll but I'd rather we at least waited until after a loan somewhere. You keep saying he is not the next Carroll so stop linking him to Carroll. Think of Ranger more on a par with Paul Robinson. It was quite clear that manager had faith in AC whether it was Shearer picking him for the Stoke game above Oba or CH making him the main striker when we went down, managers are just not backing Ranger because they are quite clearly not convinced. I'm saying he's not the next Carroll but comparing him to him. That's how comparisons generally work...I can't explain it any more simply. Hughton picked Carroll in Championship because we had no-one else. If we hadn't been relegated then Carroll wouldn't have been given the chance he got. Edit - fwiw as well, didn't Shearer want Ranger tied down on a long term contract? So he must have rated him as he did with Carroll.

This is my point though, there's plenty of posts just like this in the Carroll thread in 2009. As I said, I don't know if he'll turn out to be the next Carroll but I'd rather we at least waited until after a loan somewhere.

Unless I've worked it out wrong (which I probably have), at the same age Carroll had 3 senior goals with us. Ranger's number of senior goals? If Carroll had been given ten minutes here and there in the Championship season he would've struggled to put a run together as well. I don't see why Ranger can't go out on loan and have the other bloody club play his wages. I'm not saying Ranger will go on to be the next Carroll but I'd probably rather not let another team find out.

That may be true for you wacko but there was definitely people who wanted him out. Likewise with Hodgson, having said that 5 years down the line we'll still be hearing about how managers never get chased out by the Liverpool fans.

Couple of pieces on Lovenkrands in the Sunday Sun http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/2011/06/05/peter-lovenkrands-warns-new-forwards-will-have-to-prove-themselves-79310-28820943/2/ http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/06/05/newcastle-united-star-peter-lovenkrands-loves-playing-on-tyneside-79310-28820942/ Top notch attitude from Lovenkrands as ever. Never complains, never gets into trouble and never gives up. With so many people moaning on and on about the problems within football with regard to effort, loyalty and greed, I'm surprised Lovenkrands gets so much stick on here. Fair enough he's not the best striker around but that's more the clubs's problem than his, I've always thought that players should only be criticised if they don't give it their all rather than because they're not good enough ability-wise.

Go on Timmy son! Seems like he's rated by van Marwijk if not others.

Let's not kid ourselves, we took advantage of a topsy-turvy league. Can't see things being as tight and easy next season. I don't think it was as topsy turvy as some have said. Look at the final table and not many look out of place.

I haven't really seen much of Gervinho to make a proper decision between the two to be honest. If everyone on here had been asked before last season who they'd rather have out of Tiote and most PL defensive midfielders, I think most would have said the ones proven in the PL... N'Zogbia may be the better player but just because he's proven in the PL doesn't mean he's automatically better. Although he may be the safer option, true.

We were about 2 mins from the top half THIS season. Fair enough we had Carroll for half a season but we were also without Ben Arfa most of the season.