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My moral high horse just got higher. He's exactly the kind of utter cunt who would do that for a slightly bigger pile of money.

There must be some immediate noncequences, surely.

That Lennon post.

Exactly, the debate is about earning a fortune or earning a bigger fortune in a league the standard of the English 3rd or 4th tier.

In a far far better league than either France or China. You might as well be asking why players choose to play for Bournemouth ahead of Leeds.

It's really the strongest argument yet.

We need to agree to disagree on this stuff then. I'm taking the moral high ground. I suppose you're all ecstatic about Mike Ashley doing everything he can to stack up as much cash as he possibly can as well. "We'd all do it". Like Wullie was alluding to, well nah we wouldn't all fucking do it actually. There is more to life than money.

Of what - playing for West Ham? Even Liverpool as a Brazilian? It's not like you've turned down the opportunity to work for NASA to work for FarmVille. These players don't care about these PL teams or the league man. Whether you're a fan, a player or a manager the game is about striving to be the best you can be and playing at the highest level possible, something you will never understand given you were lording it up over people on here when we shifted Pardew saying it didn't look such a good idea when we'd been miserably treading water for 2 seasons or more. You don't have a clue about football, you're exactly the type of person I'm disappointed that the game has attracted in recent years as it's not actually all about money at all, it's about being ambitious and allowing fans to dream. Anyway, go away.

The majority of them stop earning totally at 35. The difference between 2m and 8m is huge when it comes to your children and grandchildren Well I completely disagree, given that I'm a normal person on a relatively normal wage and realise that £2m a year is a mad amount to stack up over 10 to 15 years and is more than enough to be very wealthy for pretty much as long as you like. They can't even spend it all on sniffing coke out of strippers' arse cracks ffs, the argument holds no water. The majority of even good footballers don't get near 2m a year after tax for 10 to 15 years though. The players going to China are Africans or Brazilians mostly who will have earned relatively little to the big stars for most of their careers Aye very easy to get on a high horse about playing in the PL as an Englishman from a English working / middle class family. It's just a game. Of which can change the lives of everyone you care about. And their grandkids too. You're an utter bellend I'll not bother engaging you again for a while.

But 500 grand a year isn't making do, is the entire point. You've bought a house after a year or 2 and have money stacking up for a decade or more thereafter. It's a wealthy existence. The very fact we're discussing the difference between being wealthy and obscenely rich makes me more convinced it's completely about greed.

You're ignoring professional pride, but then again you always do.

Fucking 500 grand a year over 15 years is an absolute fortune unless you're a tit with money. Most people make do on a fraction of that for 50 years and still manage to buy houses and have children. The same most people who are paying for all of this.

The majority of them stop earning totally at 35. The difference between 2m and 8m is huge when it comes to your children and grandchildren Well I completely disagree, given that I'm a normal person on a relatively normal wage and realise that £2m a year is a mad amount to stack up over 10 to 15 years and is more than enough to be very wealthy for pretty much as long as you like. They can't even spend it all on sniffing coke out of strippers' arse cracks ffs, the argument holds no water.

Also - mo' money mo' problems.

It takes not understanding football whatsoever to a whole new level not being able to comprehend why people have a problem with the Chinese stuff, so I for one am absolutely flabbergasted that TCD is putting this forward as his opinion. £2m a year or fucking £8m a year, it's all mad money and you'd have to be an absolute moron to squander it. The argument about going where the money is holds absolutely no water with me and never will. Not at the levels we're talking. There is no comparison with real world jobs at all, these aren't people whose first concern is to make ends meet.

Well Ings can only get better.

Yeah I'm not saying it's specific to the Premier League, savings should be passed down to customers in every walk of life but then we're talking about my political views and I can't be arsed getting started I see both sides, I'm just saying people seem to forget that the money is coming directly from supporters when having this conversation and there's far too much of it being taken imo. It's absolutely no wonder that so many people choose streaming games illegally these days, this is almost a carbon copy of what happened to the music industry when people started rightly feeling ripped off when faced with a free alternative.

That's a bit different and I'm not really sure how you control that given all the factors at play. It's the most popular league of a global sport at a time when live content is more valuable than ever. Honestly, I think the ticket prices for Premier League matches are, on the whole, very reasonable. I'd be much angrier at the fact my cable TV subscription doesn't give me access to every game. Average away ticket costs about 40 quid and I've paid 55 to go to Stamford Bridge, so I'm not sure I agree. That's without the outrageous prices for stuff in the ground. The subscription thing is the worst, fuck paying 100 quid a month to see games of Sky and BT's choosing, it's not very good value at all for the customer. If you were bang into it then you could be paying out a few grand a year of your post-tax earnings while average footballers are getting paid 100 grand a week these days. IMO this shouldn't be the case.

I'd rather have had him tbh, think it's pretty short termist to think otherwise unless you don't really rate him. Reckon January was our best chance of getting him and it's gone now.

Aye a fat arse is for life, not just for Christmas. Something a lot of people forget about fat arses in my experience.

There's too much money in the game anyway though, the price of Sky/BT subscriptions and tickets etc is obscene. Agree that any money generated should go to those providing the entertainment and have always said that, but there's too much cash coming directly out of fans' pockets and also not enough of it going towards grass roots and development of English players.

I remember with this 39th game stuff they were saying it should be seeded based on league position, giving the haves yet another advantage over the have-nots. It's pathetic.

That and Gareth Barry apparently being one of the best players of all time or summit. Mad little cunt's off his tits.

Is this some kind of sick joke

Thought he started quite poorly and nervously the other day but grew into it and was really solid and composed thereafter. One block in the second half in particular was vital. It's a good sign if he's adapted to a position that's alien to him this quickly, hopefully he'll be in the mix for the wing positions going forward.