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Grow a pair. So we shouldn't sign ANYONE until we actually sign a player as good as Cabaye then? Fed up of the whole "cabaye replacement" s****, we going to call the player that who we sign? Have you paid attention at all in these last few years? sure we all have, but you literally can’t kick off about colback in the context of being the replacement for cab aye until the transfer window opens at least, personally i’d be tempted to wait until nearer the end of it like Exactly, it won't stop people bitching for the sake of bitching mind. I get the feeling many Newcastle fans are just looking for any tiny reason to have a bitch. Christ Almighty.

Always moaning.

Very good point, hadn't thought of that.

Gameweek 36: Southampton 0-2 Everton Fulham 1-0 Hull Stoke 1-2 Tottenham Swansea 0-0 Aston Villa West Brom 1-1 West Ham Man Utd 3-2 Norwich Sunderland 1-0 Cardiff Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea Crystal Palace 0-2 Man City Arsenal 6-0 Newcastle

Weren't there rumours of Moyes letting his Everton contract run down to manage abroad, in Germany or somewhere?

Jesus.

Wouldn't blame him, at all. Are outgoing players still getting the "greedy cunt" treatment or not?

Don't think there's much/any doubt that the vast majority of our fans would have been happy/delighted/ecstatic if Moyes had been appointed last summer.

"ah Jew fancy..." especially.

:lol:

Jesus.

He's a right fucking daft cunt like.

Awesome. It's been hard to be a fan for like 8 months and Doug is fed up. Hard. They're 7th, reached the Carling Cup semis, the Champions League quarters and still have the best away record in the league. That would be a vintage season for us.

Fuck off man, have it here. Never been here since 66 and people actually like football here. This Qatar thing has got me fucking furious like, well as furious as I can be about daft football stuff.

Which numbers? I know he spent canny fairly big on a few players but there were some big incoming fees and long stretches where they signed nobody at all.

Moyes joined them in March 2002 and they ended up finishing 15th that year, the seasons prior to that they finished: 00/01 - 16th 99/00 - 13th 98/99 - 14th 97/98 - 17th 96/97 - 15th 95/96 - 6th 94/95 - 15th (out of 22) 93/94 - 17th (out of 22) 92/93 - 13th (out of 22) Almost a decade of mostly struggling against relegation followed by almost a decade of mainly top-6 finishes. He did an amazing job there.

My early memories of Everton in the Premier League were them hovering around the relegation spots and nearly going down in some cases btw, I know historically they've been a far bigger club than that but Moyes cut short a significant slide and built them into consistent top-6 side for the best part of a decade, with fuck-all money.

Yeah I guess, but for example when I sign a contract it has a clause that says the client can terminate it if I am useless. I don't expect that exactly, but it seems so strange the amount of money people get when sacked. As Jack says though, suppose it's all relative. You're not a footballer, I assume that companies don't try to tie you down for 4 years unless another company pays a multi-million pound transfer fee for you. Brave assumption, but you're right. But why does being tied down mean you shouldn't be able to be sacked? Personally, I would give my manager a notice period to leave if it meant I could sack him without a massive payoff. It's all about the player and the club signing the contract, isn't it, so each side will leverage the conditions as best they can. As things stand, players potentially sign a significant chunk of their career away and the same goes for managers. Therefore if things swing the other way they're allowed to claim what the money they would have earned under the conditions they agreed. All makes sense to me tbh, it's the same reason certain chancer managers are loathe to sign short deals but clubs still buckle and offer them longer ones - it's a result of the battle between the 2 sides when negotiating. Yeah, fair point, I'm just surprised that clubs don't protect themselves in some way. I guess they might do to a certain extent, if the £4.5m payoff rumour is correct. Aye, that clause would make sense like, but then again Man Utd are in a position to offer a contract like that to someone like David Moyes. Many other clubs will have to agree to contracts that are not so well equipped for contingency situations, in order to get the man they're after. Otherwise they have to move on I suppose.

Again though, the other side of that coin is that a player can sign a 5-year contract and be made to honour it even if he doesn't want to. Doesn't really happen much now though, more of the power seems to be with the players. Once they've persuaded a club to offer them a big contract they're quids in, unless there's gross misconduct or something.

Yeah I guess, but for example when I sign a contract it has a clause that says the client can terminate it if I am useless. I don't expect that exactly, but it seems so strange the amount of money people get when sacked. As Jack says though, suppose it's all relative. You're not a footballer, I assume that companies don't try to tie you down for 4 years unless another company pays a multi-million pound transfer fee for you. Brave assumption, but you're right. But why does being tied down mean you shouldn't be able to be sacked? Personally, I would give my manager a notice period to leave if it meant I could sack him without a massive payoff. It's all about the player and the club signing the contract, isn't it, so each side will leverage the conditions as best they can. As things stand, players potentially sign a significant chunk of their career away and the same goes for managers. Therefore if things swing the other way and the club want rid then the player or manager are allowed to claim the money they would have earned under the conditions they agreed. All makes sense to me tbh, it's the same reason certain chancer managers are loathe to sign short deals but clubs still buckle and offer them longer ones - it's a result of the battle between the 2 sides when negotiating.

Is that right? So what were his successful achievements as the Everton manager? Ah howay man, wait for Ronaldo to log on again. Everton went about 5 transfer windows without spending any money whatsoever and he still had them top-6. And he actually appeared to have some involvement in signing the players and developing them. Players like Cahill, Arteta, Piennar, Baines, Fellaini etc. It's incredible how much people have forgotten in less than 12 months, aye Moyes didn't seem the natural choice for Man Utd at the time but most felt he was deserving of a shot at it, due to the excellent job he'd done at Everton.

Yeah I guess, but for example when I sign a contract it has a clause that says the client can terminate it if I am useless. I don't expect that exactly, but it seems so strange the amount of money people get when sacked. As Jack says though, suppose it's all relative. You're not a footballer, I assume that companies don't try to tie you down for 4 years unless another company pays a multi-million pound transfer fee for you.

Moyes had 10 or so successful years at Everton, man.

I suppose if they're willing to continue doing the job then they're entitled to the money specified in the contract they signed. Same as players. It seems unfair on the club in cases like this, but not when they're making a fortune on selling a player with years left on his contract or getting decent compensation when their manager's poached.