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No, some tickets were reasonably priced, others weren't. What I did say though that over all including transport the cost of going to the Olympics and Paralympics was unaffordable for most people outside of London. Well it wasn't. Next.

Take up and continued participation in sports are down since before the Olympics, meaning less people are taking part in sports then they were before the Olympics, despite at the time of the Olympics participation showing a significant increase. That means the positive effects of the Olympic legacy have already ended and now less people are leading active lives then they were before the Olympics. Slate Skyscrapercity all you like, the fact is it's the worlds leading contraction and infrastructure forum with some of the worlds leading people in the industry taking part on there. It isn't a football forum. Source? Fuck me. I could quite easily say that grass is purple and they're the facts. It means nowt man, you mentalist. I haven't got a clue what Skyscraper City is, and I don't care. I post on a football forum because I like football, what the fuck you're on there for I don't have a clue.

You're not quoting sources mate, you're just barking figures at me. Feel 100% like I'm having a conversation with Rain Man.

You're trying to argue that the price of tickets was high now? Even for the Paralympics? I paid a tenner for wheelchair basketball at the O2, 15 quid to watch the 3rd place play-off and final of wheelchair basketball and 20 quid for the Paralympics closing ceremony. If you think that's dear you're off your tits. I also got the tickets really easily, I could have went to loads of other stuff if I had a bit more spare cash.

Howay then, where are your calculations coming from, i.e. link me to some nutjob on Skyscraper City or whatever it's called. Calculations-aside, many of the benefits of the Olympics are intangible in the short term. I also completely disagree with you that it's a short term effect. If the Olympics are what helped get a kid into sport, or an adult back into keeping fit then that's not short term, it's the spark that causes a long term positive effect. Euro 96 will have multiplied the amount of kids that were football daft by a long shot, and it's a similar idea. You've also neglected to mention that it was a fucking good show that gave people a once-in-a-lifetime chance to see top class sport in their own back yard.

How much would you estimate it would have cost for a family of 4 from Newcastle (or similar) to come down to see 3 or 4 events with trains (inc tube tickets), event tickets, accommodation, food etc? That's on top of probably needing at least a few days off work/school. Same goes for England playing their home games on a Friday night but that's by the by. Trains would have been cheap as chips if they'd got in early, ticket prices were reasonable (particularly for the Paralympics, which is what I went to). Not sure why you're going on about accommodation and taking lots of time off work, my brother's a teacher and he brought about 10 kids down to see some Paralympics events and they just did it like a day trip. What did you want them to do, host it all over the country?* People are just having a go for the sake of it. * Oh hang on, they did that. Fucking bollocks, you can only pre-book for so long before the event, the whole period of the Olympics and Paralympics was over inflated right from the start as every hotel operator, B&B owner, coach and train providers cashed in on the event. A few low key football games, aye thats fair. You book trains between Newcastle and London for relative pennies 3 months before the event, I know because I've done it for 5 years. The train companies didn't change that system for the Olympics. I'm not going to get dragged into an argument about the ticketing process, which did have its problems but they were dealing with unprecedented demand. As it happens, the smart thing to do (and it seemed obvious when we got to that point, but not sure how obvious it was!) would have been to have booked train tickets for during the Paralympics and you'd have been able to get tickets for any day you wanted. It was really, really easy to get Paralympics tickets.

Stifler. () 1. Don't dare tell me I'm only arsed about London and couldn't care less about the rest of the country including the North East. Honestly, just don't even try that one. 2. We've been over this a few times already but you refuse to acknowledge it. You've read a few forums and articles and are just blindly regurgitating what you've read without taking into account what people are actually saying to you. (Admittedly not sure how much but) let's just say a good proportion of the Olympics was paid for directly by London taxpayers, it's likely that it caused a surge in the economy up and down the country, it was a fantastic event that will have inspired many and encouraged them to clean up their act health-wise, etc. That's without the work that it created in construction, catering, etc. 3. Go away and type "olympics london council tax" into Google News. I've been reading the Standard for a few years and it's consistently referred to as a matter of fact that a chunk of people's council tax has been going towards the Olympics. Your thing about Council Tax going up simply because house prices were going up is utter, utter bilge.

I'll be fuming if we hoy the game on Thursday.

How much would you estimate it would have cost for a family of 4 from Newcastle (or similar) to come down to see 3 or 4 events with trains (inc tube tickets), event tickets, accommodation, food etc? That's on top of probably needing at least a few days off work/school. Same goes for England playing their home games on a Friday night but that's by the by. Trains would have been cheap as chips if they'd got in early, ticket prices were reasonable (particularly for the Paralympics, which is what I went to). Not sure why you're going on about accommodation and taking lots of time off work, my brother's a teacher and he brought about 10 kids down to see some Paralympics events and they just did it like a day trip. What did you want them to do, host it all over the country?* People are just having a go for the sake of it. * Oh hang on, they did that.

That is utter fucking bollocks mate, you should actually be ashamed. Do you think that makes one jot of difference to the type of people we're talking about? My mam works in a social housing role for the council, when I moved down here she asked me where I lived and I told her, she said "Oh, Tower Hamlets, I've heard of that. I've heard of that because it's the only borough in the country that's worse off than us". It's well documented that 'Londoners' would pay for the Olympics out of their own pocket, i.e. through council tax. So you're just making things up now.

It's definitely an opinion.

Misread that as John Carver.

Marvelous patter.

Many of the venues were built as temporary structures to be knocked down or downsized, they even recycled some bits to send over to Rio for the 2016 games. The white elephant stuff is rubbish and it's inevitable that people are coming out with it. The Olympic Park was built specifically not to create white elephants. There's more info on what they're doing with the Park now on, erm, Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Park,_London To slag off London for it is just really bitter tbh, they couldn't have held it anywhere else in the UK and chose to have it in one of the most deprived areas in the whole country (where I live basically, which is a mix of grim poverty and poncey idiots like me - bit like a lot of London). People need to get rid of the chips on their shoulders about London, it's 3 hours on the fucking train man - you could have came along if you wanted to. As people have said, my council tax went towards the Olympics and I'm perfectly happy with that, I'm sure it caused a decent spike in the economy and you can't put a price on the spectacle it was and the inspiration it will have had on many people.

Piss off man Stifler, it was fucking superb.

Hopefully we will get the right reaction out of him after he was dropped for the last game.

Anyway, apparently Metalist aren't even Russian!

I think we can get 13+ points from the last 12 games regardless. There will always be an excuse to throw the cups and we always take it. I'd play close to a full-strength side.

Silverware. Not a chance we'll win this when it's over 2 legs every game. There's always an excuse not to try hard in cups, that's why we'll never win one. In the last few years off the top of my head: Promotion season: Promotion more important, fuck the cups off. First season back up: Avoid relegation, fuck the cups off. Last season: Doing canny well here, fuck the cups off. This season: Doing shit again and might get relegated, fuck the cups off. We will never win a cup, ever. We don't even want to, as a fanbase or a club.

Mannnn, I know.

I don't even know what my opinion of the game is because I haven't a clue whether the opposition are any good. It was a decent performance, we had a strong side out, we deserved to win a game I expected us to win and we drew. All I know about the opposition is they're Russian, they're not one of the Russian sides who've spent loads of money, they're in the middle of their Winter break. I've also seen enough UEFA Cup Last-32 games to know the opposition we face are usually pretty average. So it depends how good the opposition was. If they're s*** then that was bad. If they're good then that was class. If they're average then that was average. Except they're Ukrainian. As I say, I don't know a lot about the opposition. We made them look handy tonight, I expected them to be shite to average based on the limited amount I'd read. Ignorant foreigner. I'm English m8.

Can't believe they're calling Russia and the Ukraine separate countries now like btw, what a minefield.

I don't even know what my opinion of the game is because I haven't a clue whether the opposition are any good. It was a decent performance, we had a strong side out, we deserved to win a game I expected us to win and we drew. All I know about the opposition is they're Russian, they're not one of the Russian sides who've spent loads of money, they're in the middle of their Winter break. I've also seen enough UEFA Cup Last-32 games to know the opposition we face are usually pretty average. So it depends how good the opposition was. If they're s*** then that was bad. If they're good then that was class. If they're average then that was average. Except they're Ukrainian. As I say, I don't know a lot about the opposition. We made them look handy tonight, I expected them to be shite to average based on the limited amount I'd read.