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Got sent off for this yesterday, pathetic from the ref http://www.skysports.com/football/charlton-vs-cardiff/report/339894

Orlando has the nicest kit imo.

Lewandowski and Aguero up top would be disgusting

Bad luck to anyone who had him in their FF team

It's funny, these are the sort of games where we'd pull a surprise win out the bag, like against Spurs

Berahino has been wank.

That 3 - 0 defeat which could have been at least 8 or 9 oh yes it was. That was one of the worst performance from a Newcastle team I have seen in over 40 year of watching This is utter f***ing bullshit, we have never reached those depths this season in terms of attacking endeavour. I feel like I wasted 4 years of my life watching that negative speculative s**** every week, not one performance this season comes close to Pardew's worst in that respect. Even Palace. In your opinion fine but then again I'm in the opinion you're talking bullshit also. But each to their own we all have opinions let's just wait until the end of the season. I think both are utter cretins as managers but in my opinion McClaren is worse and I'll argue all day and night about that but as I said you are entitled to your opinion as are others and let's just see what the rest of this season brings. I thought Everton was absolutely rancid. Up there with some of the dross served up by his predecessors, Carver and Pardew. But McClaren worse than Pardew? Nah. I'm not having that. A new poll is needed!! Let's just wait until the end of the season and see if we make double figures on away goals scored first - as I said time will tell I will leave it at that for now. I don't need time or stats to see that we've already been trying to play a better kind of Football under McClaren and in some games have played far better than we ever did under Pardew. This is true but some games have still been absolute rank, ultimately I think we would have had more points under Pardew when he left we were 10th on 27 points after 20 games, this season we have played 25 and only have 24 pts and that's before all the money spent in the summer. McClarens football is unquestionably better and far more positive but hes not getting enough results and unless he goes on a good run and finishes midtable we need to get rid in the summer. Personally I'd rather have less points and enjoy watching football, then have more and it be utter dire.

That 3 - 0 defeat which could have been at least 8 or 9 oh yes it was. That was one of the worst performance from a Newcastle team I have seen in over 40 year of watching This is utter f***ing bullshit, we have never reached those depths this season in terms of attacking endeavour. I feel like I wasted 4 years of my life watching that negative speculative s**** every week, not one performance this season comes close to Pardew's worst in that respect. Even Palace. In your opinion fine but then again I'm in the opinion you're talking bullshit also. But each to their own we all have opinions let's just wait until the end of the season. I think both are utter cretins as managers but in my opinion McClaren is worse and I'll argue all day and night about that but as I said you are entitled to your opinion as are others and let's just see what the rest of this season brings. Can I ask what you are basing this off, i'm not having a go, i'm genuinely curious, as from what i've seen McClaren is better in every regard, we have an actual game plan every week, we've only been dicked twice this season (It'd be about 6 under Pardew), we don't play players out of position unless injury dictates, we attempt to play attacking football, doesn't dedicate wins to the owner, is humble and will take the blame, he's not a cunt, he may not be cut out for the job, but he is in no way worse then Pardew.

Tbf this is getting into the realms of that hypothetical again Kaiz I've started to feel like it's a planned wind-up from you always going back to that fucking hypothetical, man I mean its not, and I'm not even intending it to seem like it. Similar topics seem to pop up recently Also using a Supernatural gif

He's like Ronaldo on roids

I agree he was s*** but some on here are trying to say he is better when he wasn't (this season you could put in the results against Palace, City, Leicester, Everton, Sheff Wed in comparison but the manner of that Everton defeat was shocking and could easily been 7 or 9. The fact that there is an argument going on about who is the best manager shows the state of this club; as both are total s***, both should of been nowhere near the club but I still maintain that we would have more points under Pardew than we do McClaren. That's not based on fantasy either it's based on the points record we had under Pardew at this stage of the season. We have never had a worse points per games ratio in the premier legaue than we do now. We also have never scored only 6 goals away from home at this stage of the season either. Both are s***, both should have been nowhere near this club but don't then come on saying things are better when they certainly clearly are not! The lack of closed bracket in this post is really pissing me off. Well don't fucking read it then Jesus man, he was only making a joke, no need to be all aggressive

Tbf this is getting into the realms of that hypothetical again Kaiz

I don't think China is the best example to be fair, as in places China is stunning, and would be great to live in, and if you're racking in the cash at the same time then i'd imagine it be awesome, put it this way i'd rather live in Shanghai then Stoke.

If I got offered £150k a week to play in some shit league, that i'm going to dominate, or £50k for a Premier League club, i'm moving to China like

Tbf, the football we are playing looks pretty easy on the eye compared to the Pardew nightmare years, it's just not very effective. Partly due to having a crap midfield for most of the season, and also weaknesses at the back and up front. His style of football is one of the reason's I have wanted him to stay, and give him the season, we've played decent football at times, and we've missed a hell of a load of chances, that if put away would mean we'd be nowhere near where we are, and been generally unlucky. It's just there seems to be games where the players just can't give two shits, and we look fucking atrocious, I don't know if that's just a lingering effect from the Pardew years, or if there is something deep in the club thats causing it. That said he's now had two windows and the first 11 is massively different to this time last year, so he has to start to pull results out the bag.

How are they going to measure Europes Elite? If its based on revenue, we are in the top 20 clubs in Europe

Sunderland 1 v 1 Man Utd Bournemouth 2 v 1 Stoke Crystal Palace 1 v 1 Watford Everton 2 v 0 West Brom Norwich 0 v 2 West Ham Swansea 1 v 1 Southampton Chelsea 1 v 2 Newcastle Arsenal 2 v 1 Leicester Aston Villa 1 v 1 Liverpool Man City 1 v 2 Spurs

Even if they were to block it, surely all you'd need is a foreign proxy to get around it?

Best one yet imo

Looks like a San Marino kit.

In a few weeks Sky are showing Palace vs West Brom as the Saturday night game, the fuck we're they thinking.

I did that before I posted, there are maybe a few people who "Went further then praising him", but the majority of people only said he had a good game, but because you're macho man brain can't compute something that is different to your opinion, even if slightly minuscule, you have to go and call the entire forum a joke.

Yep, this place really is a joke at times. We win one game 1-0 against a crap side that completely fails to turn up and the general perception of a player who's been in the first team for 12 years changes fairly significantly. He's the most injury prone player I've ever seen at NUFC in addition to having numerous glaring deficiencies as a defender. How is this place a joke for people merely saying that he had a good game, which he did even if it is against shitty opposition, I highly doubt it changed peoples overall opinion on him, but please let your massive bias keep you from looking at things objectively.

Amuoz