Froggy

With Bruno suspended, it's not even close. Bournemouth were putting three men on him.

I think Ratcliffe would have a fairly big revolt on his hands if this is route he goes down. With the rise in ticket prices, I think you'd see Old Trafford start to empty. This is a coach we've really, really taken to.

His defensive contributions are fairly decent so it makes some sense. He's just awful in general though. This is where we're at. There is possibility of Antony starting which is depressing.

But what are his expectations? This is what we don't know. I know supporters expectations are low. We expect Arsenal to knock us out of the cup, and we know we won't be anywhere near the top 4 in the league. Most of us are hoping for an uptick in form and a reasonable challenge made in the Europa League. Every man and his dog knows that the culture is absolutely fucked at the club as well. A proper deep rot. We need to allow a manager to change it at some point. A manager with unwavering ideas is what we need I think. Anyone who isn't up to it, see you later. I said to mates previously, I'd happily take 14th for a season or two if it meant we cleared out the trash(ford) and reset the wage structure etc. There's £1.5m or so a week in wages being paid for players who either don't play or can't stay fit. It's going to take some time for Amorim to sort that out. Honestly if Ratcliffe sacked Amorim as as quick as he sacked Ashworth, I might just support Newcastle. As Eddie Howe is the kind of manager I've always wanted since Fergie left, and I believe Amorim and Howe are similar in many ways. I'd be beyond gutted.

I mean, Ashworth was wanking himself off silly at the thought of coming to us. He was an instant yes. The negotiations were with the club over his exit fee, not with Ashworth himself.

I would agree that he maybe shouldn't have said he was given an ultimatum of coming mid season or not at all. That's the only thing so far where I've thought, "he maybe shouldn't have said that." But honestly it's just refreshing to have a manager with some charisma combined with a backbone that allows him to stand up to plays like Rashford and Garnacho and punish them for being pricks. I am 100% with him on the formation though. I'd hate if he changed it. If he decides to play a 4-4-2 counter attacking formation just to try and get points on the board I would feel like he's already failed and his time is limited.

There is absolutely no chance Amorim gets sacked. The only situation where that's a realistic possibility is if we're in the Championship next season. The negotiations with him were long. Everyone knew the situation he was taking over.

Nobody is actually being critical of Amorim though. As I've said a few times lately, football fans are just fickle. Our fans and opposition fans have been critical of our style of play or lack of over the last couple of seasons. Now we've got a manager with a crystal clear style of play and people are already suggesting he abandon his way of playing for a more pragmatic style. Ten Hag was slaughtered for doing that. I don't know why people can't be patient. It's December. Amorim signed in November.

Hojlund is quicker than Amad for a start.

I didn't hate the staff cuts, or getting rid of the retainers on Fergie/Gill etc. I think given the financial state of the club they were necessary cuts. It's went a bit too far though with the Christmas bonuses for stewards etc. being taken away. Way too much negative PR for such minimal savings, as you've already said.

He just seems like a very honest manager. I don't hate that he's answering questions with the truth. You're only seeing clips of what he's saying as well, as the media will snip the negative bits for headlines. There is plenty of positivity coming from him. I disagree with changing his ideas temporarily as well. He's addressed this a lot. It's better to implement this system now and suffer short term instead of bluffing our way into Europe playing hero ball with Fernandes and Rashford. We'll just be back to square one at the start of next season. Fully agree on your points about Rashford though. His sale benefits us in every way possible. The team, the negativity in the media, the money aspect etc. He has to go. Even when he's not playing it's a dark cloud over every game and the first question Amorim is asked is usually about Rashford.

No. We need to sell to buy.

He was doing a good job, until he wasn't. I will listen to whatever you have to say though Rod.

I'm not making excuses at all. I'm not judging a manager after a handful of games because I'm not an idiot.

Too many games. Can't risk burnout or injuries by having a ton of training sessions in between two games every week can you? That's the joys of playing in Europe.

Fickle. The word you're looking for is fickle.

Onana Mazraroui Maguire De Ligt Martinez Dalot Casemiro Mainoo Eriksen Amad Hojlund Probably something like that. He might play Yoro to deal with Gordon's pace. If Mainoo is injured he'll probably drop Eriksen deeper and start Garnacho. He doesn't seem to like playing Hojlund and Zirkzee together but Zirkzee seems more of a #10 than a #9 to me.

You've named 4 keepers there who were free and signed as third choice man. you need to do a bit better than that.

Still in two minds about heading to this so I can boo Rashford.

Alright 75%. I was being kind.

Quite fun how fickle fans are mind. A few games ago half the board were Howe out. Now he's God again and we're getting relegated because we're 7 points behind you. Can't wait to win the Europa League and knock you out of the Champions League when you finish above us again.

The league only started in 1993 so no idea what you're on about.

Even Bruno who's already one of the best in our history, is getting a lot of stick now. That was extremely stupid from him last night.

Garnacho was back in the squad the next game. I don't want to see Rashford anywhere near the team. Would rather lose.