Froggy

3 years younger than Obertan, looked impressive in the League Cup against Chelsea and Arsenal and besides, he's Slovenian. What do NUFC want with a Slovenian?

Get on the phone and make it a swap deal for Vuckic.

I'll punch myself in the balls if Routledge is better than Obertan in the Premiership, not a fucking chance mate. I think you've been watching too much of Routledge in the Championship.. Obertan mostly played against league cup teams and poor European opposition though. I may as well have been watching him in the Championship, and he was still brutal.

I thought he was decent like. I know he's wasteful but he's still put a good few away over the last few years.

I'm not sure he will be but then again you all seem to think Routledge is brutal. I watch a lot of Newcastle because of Decky, and I actually thought Routledge was a decent enough player. Thought the same with Lovenkrands though. I did make a bet with someone at a party that Lovenkrands would score more than Agbonlahor last year and the whole room simultaneously laughed at me. Peter: 7 Agbonlahor: 5 In five less games. ------------------------ All that rambling basically means IMO, Routledge is better.

Best thing he's done. John O'Shea nutmegged Figo though. He nutmegged one of your right backs a few years back too and crashed a shot off the bar straight after it. If it's not a regular occurrence it doesn't mean much. It's a worrying sign when it's your job to run at players and turn them and you can only do it once or twice in twenty odd games. Basically, he's had 28 games, played brutal in 25.

ESPN man ffs. That should be a fiver a month.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/936109/netherton:-the-power-of-phil-brown?cc=5739 Just....

It was Scholes' testimonial last night. Full house at Old Trafford. Cantona, Law, Pele all there. He scored a screamer too to make it 1-0. Was sad watching it. Legend. Ended 6-0. Only seen Bristol Rovers and Wimbledon today. Thought Leicester would have been on SS.

I just think he's complete dung. People say he's fast etc. but he can barely even run right. He's turned a few defenders 'cause he looks awkward as fuck and the defender hasn't a fucking clue what's going on. The problem is, Obertan doesn't either. Neil, stick me in you sig. I'll drink my own piss if he plays to an average level.

Like Smith? Like Rossi? For everyone like Rossi there's a Djemba Djemba, Kleberson and a David Bellion. Bellion's career is how I see Obertans turning out.

I'm happy enough to go along with that.

Red Cafe. Don't read into it.

Lads. I've seen him every time he's played including this years pre-season. He's been impressive about twice in competitive play. Once in the league cup and the other in the CL against Wolfsburg (a game where Owen scored a hat trick). His debut consisted of him missing from 4 yards out, shooting when he should be squaring and running straight out of play with the ball when under no pressure. It hasn't got much better since then. He's not a good player. We'd snap your hand off to recoup the money for him.

Routledge is better.

Good bet that Rosenborg.

I done Twente, Rosenburg, Sturm Graz, Benfica and Zagreb. £2.50 pays £125.

He'll probably go to Liverpool for about £15million.

open goal I guess? Basically. Bout 5 yards out, skyed it.

What a shocking miss from Owen.

Good finish too. Thiago's goal was a screamer.

I've just stuck on Fifa and it updated. Started a new career mode and the first transfer was Carlton Cole to Newcastle for £10m.

Quality for the reserve team as well. Has played terribly in 75% of his appearances for the senior team.

Doni, Kelly, Carragher, Ayala, Robinson, Poulsen, Coady, Aquilani, Cole, Maxi, Ngog.

VDV gets his second in Spurs' friendly.