Away Toon

I'm all in favour of him being sacked, I never wanted him in the first place, and I've never wavered from the opinion that he's a charlatan and a very poor manager. Houghton is way ahead of him. Who to replace him with, well someone like Martinez or some up and coming young continental manager, not sure who.

I think I know what he means, it's just an incredibly strange way to say it, and as a lot of things that our esteemed manager says, makes little or no sense. AVB says similar nonsensical things but he's Porkandcheese so he has an excuse.

I know that intelligence and a proper grasp of the English language are not necessarily a pre-requisite to be a successful manager, but what the fuck is Pardew on about concerning manoeuvring Obertan's toe? "Obertan has got a toe that we needed to sort out, so there has been a manoeuvre on that which put him out today and probably for Maritimo as well. He might be back for Southampton."

Marveaux has always been a good technical player and if he hadn't had so many injuries throughout his career I'm sure he would have been able to show just how good he could be. Let's be honest we bought him because he was on a free and a bargain despite the fact that his style of play makes it very difficult for him to survive in the premier league. Add in out style of play and idiot manager and he's being wasted. He'd do well at a team like Swansea or Liverpool, a team that actually value keeping the ball.

HBA is so far ahead of the rest of our players, and he's not even being used properly by our stupid manager. He'll be off.

Watch Santon on their first goal, he got nowhere near his man. He's overrated, in fact mostly by various people on this forum, I've never heard any one in the press ever big him up. He's not our worst player, but don't tell me a decent club out there is trying to buy him.

We have one very good payer HBA, a good one Ba, and not much else with any real quality. If I was Ashley, which thank fuck I'm not, as that would make me a fat cunt, I'd sack Pardew tonight.

I agree with Mick, I don't think Pardew has a fucking clue what he's doing, I don't think the players like the way we play and I'm sure most of them don't think it suits them individually. It's maybe not Pardew's fault that he still has to pick Simpson, Williamson and Krul who really are professional hoofballers, but as they are the best we have he could try and encourage them to keep the ball and pass it to one of their own players, rather than blast it forwards. Talking of Krul, he gets no where near the criticism he should get for his awful distribution and lack of basic football skills. Maybe we made the wrong choice, Fraser looks like the real deal in every way.

I would expect a player like Cabaye who is ambitious, is a regular for France, and is certainly someone lots of clubs would like to buy, to say something about the anti football we play, which makes him look to be a poor and limited player, which obviously he isn't. The players we have that have the option of playing for high level premiership clubs, Krul, Tiote, Cabaye, Santon, HBA and Ba surely don't want to play in a team as negative as this.

At least Fat Sam's teams play with purpose and a specific way of playing, I have no idea which way Pardew wants the team to play and neither apparently does he. Prehistoric, antiquated none football.

I'm going to watch a game of football, Chelsea vs Liverpool.

I'm not suggesting that we resign Nolan, he's history and is a very limited player, though if he's serious about signing Carroll, Nolan does work well with him. It would be nice to get in a goal scoring box to box midfielder, Tiote is never going to be able to do this and unless we play three in the middle and let Cabaye out of his shackles he can't do it either. HBA could probably get a lot more goals but not whilst he's stuck out on the wing and spending most of his time helping Simpson out.

He wants Nolan because he's a midfield player who regular scores goals and has done so throughout his career. Our current ones don't and never have done, apart from Cabaye when he took all the penalties for Lille one year.

So it's starting to become apparent that Colo is well off the pace this season and becoming a serious liability to the long ball, and Obertan really cannot finish, so anyone hoping that he could play as a central striker rather than the shit winger he is can forget it.

PSG have the Brazilian midfielder/winger Moura arriving in January I think. He cost a lot 40M Euro's and was wanted by Man U. If he lives up to his reputation and they strengthen in January they must have a serious chance of going a long way.

Swansea were well worth a point and the LB who is deputising for the one we tried to buy looked excellent.

Fantastic noise being made by the Swansea supporters, good game too.

I don't know why nobody will spell it out, Pardew is not a very good manager, he wasn't before he joined us and he isn't now. We finished 5th last season despite not playing very well for most of the time, mainly because Chelsea, Liverpool and Everton had such poor seasons. Would Moyes do better with our squad, absolutely he would, would Rodgers, well at least he has a plan. Watch the way Swansea played last week against City and then Liverpool in midweek, and then watch the ugly dross we come up with. It's horrible and Pardew seems unable to grasp that. Our good technical players, Santon, Cabaye, Ben Arfa are completely wasted the way Pardew sets up the team. The premier league is pretty much dross this season and last, the fact we are in the top half illustrates that perfectly.

From BBC Sport Jonas Gutierrez: Newcastle United are a marked side Newcastle United's Jonas Gutierrez says teams have changed their approach to stop key players such as Demba Ba, Yohan Cabaye and Papiss Demba Cisse. The trio were pivotal to the Magpies' European qualification last season, with strikers Ba and Cisse scoring a combined 29 goals in the top flight. "Teams know us more than they did last year. They know the way we play," Gutierrez told BBC Newcastle. "For players that come in it's always difficult in the second season." Gutierrez on Europe "The fans like the competition, we as players feel the same, we always want to win and play every game in the Newcastle shirt. "It's a really good competition for us, we've had to enjoy and do our best, because we never know if we get through the group stage then we never know who we play against. "The most important thing is to get through the group stage, and then see what happens." Last season's start was vital to a Premier League tally of 19 wins in 38 games, after Pardew's side went unbeaten in the first 14 matches in all competitions. The fifth-placed finish last season brought European football to Tyneside, and Newcastle's progress so far has added five additional games to the schedule. "Maybe we are not at the same level last year in the league but we have another competition now, and it's always difficult," Gutierrez added. "Teams who aren't normally playing in Europe and don't have a big squad can find it difficult to play in an extra competition. "It's our first year, it's something new, but the whole team is thinking about that and trying to enjoy it, everyone wants to play. But it's made the beginning of the season tougher. "This season [in the Premier League] we have picked up good points against teams we've played this year, we know we lost against Manchester United and Chelsea. "The win against West Bromwich Albion last weekend was really important to take the points at home."

The only NUFC player who skill wise was close to Beardsley was the great Tony Green, who only played 33 times and had to retire at 25 after being brutalised for the ennium time by some nameless thug playing against Palace I think. Same kind of balance and the ability to dribble his way through a team. Ben Arfa is the nearest we've had to these kind of players for probably the last 30 years.

Playing 442 all the nice passing and movements gone.

Playing nice carpet football most of the time which is a good idea as Cisse is definitely not a target man. Tiote definitely needs to stop dawdling/getting caught in possession in our own half. His range of passing is excellent it would be nice to see him push further up the pitch and let Bigi and Anita cover behind him.

Ameobi playing well is negated by Tiote playing shit

Ameobi is a rarity in that like Ben Arfa he always seems to find a way to beat his man.

How's Enrique playing? Oh forgot he's on the bench again, despite Kelly being injured and somebody I've never heard of playing RB, Rogers still prefers Johnson on the Left. Jose what did you think you were doing?