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So if logic applied next points deduction will be more than 10 and they can appeal that?

Definitely. Think everyone wins personally if it is £21m+.

£21m was mentioned weeks ago so guessing they are paying the clause. Thanks Fulham.

Wonder if the club will put free transport on for the final. Especially if there are no trains available.

EH said pretty much the same if you listened to his press conference last week after Ashworth’s departure.

Don’t have that channel it seems.

Can’t find this. Anyone know who’s got this? Bit of a missed opportunity you’d think.

Now for River Plate v Boca Juniors… anyone know who’s showing it?

Yeah but like I say not what offside was invented for. Both players as good as level. Give advantage to the attacker.

Those should stand but I’m just repeating myself I know.

Does Dan Burn clear that…?

You’d think they’d try again for their first choice (Michael Emenalo) but I guess he’s committed himself to the Saudi League project…

That doesn’t sound great for the mental health but fair play to you for trying so hard for tickets. Fantastic effort. Guessing most people don’t have the luxury (for want of a better word!) to spend so much time refreshing in the hope one pops up. Days nearer the game usually best as the returns from sponsors, players, STH start getting dumped on the system. Along with I suspect those on sale at inflated prices on secondary websites that have had no bites…

As much as you disagree with the option, it helped that STHs could buy an extra ticket or more as it was going to more committed fans desperate to go. All the friends who got my spares previous season I knew were going to support the team and not just play on their phone or sit in silence. I get the “it shouldn’t be down to who you know line” but ironically the reversal of that is STHs played quite a vital role in ensuring a lot of those tickets went to the “right” kind of fan at face value last season. Similar to the current issue with away tickets. So it can’t be argued wrong for home games yet right for away games to help atmosphere and get the “right” fans in…

Was it not league position based? We are two wins from safety also if based on relegation.

Only for those purchased with connections to certain bus travel etc you’d imagine. Would be good to get some honest feedback on what happens tomorrow night (who actually gets rejected) if you find out any rather than rumours and heresy from X.

Not yet but Radcliffe has invited him on to the discussion board for the regeneration project so you’ll think he’ll have a say at some point.

It’s natural human behaviour. Think of it as the gym. No one if they can help it wants to pay for a year. No gym however wants to risk allowing to pay a pro rata fee to visit. It’s always much higher daily fee. So those that pay for the day stay in longer than they want to. Those who pay yearly attend more than they want to but maybe aren’t as committed. Either option leaves the gym generally as full as possible so harder to get on the equipment with the most money brought it regardless. Thats what the new system was like. The old system felt more daily pro rata. Either way cake is being burned off 😆 Anyway I fear we are venturing more towards Memberships rather than the actual ballot process itself. The workshop was never going to be about who can or can’t enter. Out of interest if you had your say at the workshop what would’ve been your list of suggestions out of interest?

I’ve not suggested once controlling more than one ticket. A STH isn’t allowed to buy a membership to ballot. I’m saying they should be allowed to buy one at £37 to ballot as and when and bring someone to the game occasionally if successful. These would most likely be people who’ve bought memberships. However they would currently all have to have memberships each. So what you get is people applying for as many games as possible to justify the cost when I wouldn’t have been surprised that they were quite happy going to the odd game they were invited to. I’ve seen this mentality with many members.

Wasn’t the reason I was arguing that STH’s should be able to share their opinions on ballots. I’ve already given an example of a family of 3 match goers where the two Members couldn’t attend yet the STH could so argued surely he could speak for all 3? However saying as you brought it up. Don’t forget STH did pay for memberships without choice for the option. There was never an opt out option to save money. Was just a way of charging more at the time with little although occasionally handy benefit at the time. Now they’ve removed the option they didn’t reduce the price of the STH after reducing its benefits. They put the price up by around 15%. They maybe could’ve allowed STs to join the ballot at a cost (£37). The fact you can’t get a chance to legitimately take someone of your choosing I argue is harsh. I understand the club just want the “individual/guest” to each have their own membership so they can know who’s attending etc for stats but what I’m suggesting doesn’t minimise the chances for Members getting a match day ticket. Probably would’ve lead to less memberships being bought and a clearer picture overall ironically of demand. That like I say would be to discuss for a different workshop.

No. More like there’s a load of people pretending to want eat cake even though they don’t really love it just mearly like it. Then there’s those who love cake but have gone off the idea by the time they get a chance of a slice. Then there’s those who say they love cake but when given a slice they decide it’s not the slice of cake they want and want to return it for a different slice. Or there’s those who just need one slice of cake but try to get two in hope they get one but might end up with two depriving someone of a slice. Then their is those who buy as many cakes as they can even when they don’t like cake to sell to those that do for more money etc Or maybe I know all of these cake issues and happy to convey my vast cake eating experience on behalf of others…

Our own yes. The family and friends we’ve helped buy tickets for to go to the game with us for many years previously no! I’ve always spent a huge chunk of my time helping others trying to get tickets for NUFC. Even for random strangers on here I’ve never met usually traveling far & wide. Thats why I question why someone like me shouldn’t be able to have their say. The fact I have a ST to me is irrelevant. The fact I understand the very fabric of the club and its fanbase and what effect the changes have had, even slightly nuanced, on them both is all that matters IMO. That and I’m not afraid to voice my opinion regardless of authority. You could have ended up with 120 Members and many might not have a clue or if they do no ability to articulate it. So the ticket status is largely irrelevant in their cases. .

I agree totally. However. As a small sample size and excluding those on here I know. None of the (dozens) members I know bothered yet the STHs I know did. No STH’s successful but it’s a reminder that on here and on Social Media reality can be warped.

“How many of those STH's there last night have had to pay £45 quid per game to sit in a part of the ground they didn't want to. Or sit for days pressing F5 in the hope a ticket pops up. Or missed a game because of a lucky dip.” All the STH’s I know including me still do all this… 😆 …logged in for family & friends who we’d usually queue for on the previous system and after long wait would if successful have the same choice of seats as Members (mainly in the gods unless lucky) or put out of our misery and end search empty handed. Quite astounded you don’t think STH’s and many members are totally interconnected.

I doubt all tables would’ve been 6/2 STH’s so probably an anomaly but again like I say depends on how many Members bothered to apply. The fact we have 90k approximately yet only 4K IN TOTAL appplied. Many will be STH out of that number rejected. Just have a slight concern of the actual number of Members that put themselves forward. Just going back to my previous I meant to add I’ve a friend (STH since 90’s) whose wife and daughter are both members who couldn’t attend. Surely he has the right to attend and speak for them and himself and all the facets the change of system has caused?