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I'm sure the reporter just said Ferreyra was one of the possible loanees. Isn't he on loan at us? Can we loan out players we've loaned in?

All I was trying to say is that they are both shit but if I had to choose, out the two, who I blamed more, it would be Ashley. If they would both leave this club then yeah great but the fact is that none of them are going anywhere soon.

I'd take Hughton back. His sacking is proof of why I think a new chairman would be more beneficial than a new manager, although I understand this isn't going to happen in the too near future.

Ashley deserving blame doesn't mean Pardew gets absolved of blame. If turdface intends to hang on to his job, then we have every right to abuse the living daylights out of the asslicker. A side with a free scoring Papiss Cisse, with Demba Ba, Hatem Ben Arfa, Yohan Cabaye, and Tiote/Colo/Krul/Perch/Best (wait, can't remember if he was still there) all in form is a very average side? Is that the first Newcastle side you've ever seen? because that was easily the best squad we've had since Sir Bobby's days. Our side has been average at best since SBR left, imo. From the side you mentioned we had either Ba OR Cisse scoring. Ben Arfa and Cabaye was great. Thats 3 good player. The rest were average. Not this s*** again. Ashley is a crap owner but he doesn't pick the team, dictate tactics or run training sessions. Ashley hasn't consistently picked inferior players (Smith, Perch, Gosling, Ameobi) when other options have been available to the detriment of the team and club as a whole. Ashley isn't the one who has shoehorned players into the team out of their natural positions, destroying their confidence and nullifying any threat they might have once offered. Ashley and Pardew are a good match for each other, they each cover the other's inadequacies but it has gone beyond the point now where Pardew is only holding back the club with his own shitness. Pardew is now the root cause of most of the team's issues and has to go. You ask why he should simply walk away since he has a contract? Because it's got the point where the crowd detest him, the players no longer give a f*** and even the media have started to wake up to his inabilities. If he walks away now he might still get another job in the Premiership or top end of the Championship, the longer he allows it to continue the more questions will be raised about his skills and fewer clubs will think him a potential asset. Walk away now and let the media run with the stories that it was Ashley's way of running the club that harmed the team, or carry on and let everyone know it was Pardew himself who couldn't organise a gangbang in a brothel. Mark Hughes or David O'Leary, pick a career path. I'm not saying that Pardew is innocent either, I just feel that Ashley is more to blame. Yes Pardew picks the team, but how much of a say does he have in the players at his disposal? He has shown in the past that he can get results when he has the right players. He is no scout, I doubt he even knows who half of the players we signed this summer actually are but we finished 5th with Pardew as a manager and a very average side tbh. But when Ashley decides he wants to sell our best player (by far) because he is far more interested in lining his own pockets than the fortunes of the football club. That is why, imo, Ashley is more to blame. What does it matter when he can't get anything close to the best out of players that he is given? This is a manager who thought that Hayden f***ing Mullins was a better choice than Javier Mascherano. When he's been given players that he's wanted they've hardly been spectacular successes, or have you not noticed Obertan? Again, I'm not saying Pardew is great, he has insane flaws in his ability to manage. But if he goes, what do you think is going to happen? You think Ashley is gonna dig deep to get a top young European manager to take us forward? Is he f***! Nice cheap option. Steve Clarke? Neil Lennon? Remember this is a guy who employed JFK... Twice. Oh, and of course I've noticed Obertan, he has a ridiculously shaped head and he's f***ing s***! Sorry but are you blind or just totally clueless because you're certainly one or the other I apologise if my opinion is not the same as yours. Keep the man who makes most of us not even want to watch the match anymore out of fear of who will replace him? You're running the gammit of excuses here man: Its Ashley's fault Cabaye Not enough control over transfers But what if his replacement is worse I take it you were one of the ones who voted to keep the c***? I'd take any manager over him and I mean anyone. The uncertainty of whether or not our manager is s*** is far better than the certainty that he is. I go into every game knowing what drivel I'm going to see, knowing that the man in charge will make my next 90 minutes both mind numbing and tortuous. The only way I can even bring myself to watch anymore is the hope that we'll get smashed to pieces which might end this f***ing nightmare. How could I possibly fear what will come next? Yes I am, purely because at the moment I don't see what difference it will make. Pardew is shit, Ashley is shit, and 99% of our players are shit. To me, we need to start at the top.

Not this s*** again. Ashley is a crap owner but he doesn't pick the team, dictate tactics or run training sessions. Ashley hasn't consistently picked inferior players (Smith, Perch, Gosling, Ameobi) when other options have been available to the detriment of the team and club as a whole. Ashley isn't the one who has shoehorned players into the team out of their natural positions, destroying their confidence and nullifying any threat they might have once offered. Ashley and Pardew are a good match for each other, they each cover the other's inadequacies but it has gone beyond the point now where Pardew is only holding back the club with his own shitness. Pardew is now the root cause of most of the team's issues and has to go. You ask why he should simply walk away since he has a contract? Because it's got the point where the crowd detest him, the players no longer give a f*** and even the media have started to wake up to his inabilities. If he walks away now he might still get another job in the Premiership or top end of the Championship, the longer he allows it to continue the more questions will be raised about his skills and fewer clubs will think him a potential asset. Walk away now and let the media run with the stories that it was Ashley's way of running the club that harmed the team, or carry on and let everyone know it was Pardew himself who couldn't organise a gangbang in a brothel. Mark Hughes or David O'Leary, pick a career path. I'm not saying that Pardew is innocent either, I just feel that Ashley is more to blame. Yes Pardew picks the team, but how much of a say does he have in the players at his disposal? He has shown in the past that he can get results when he has the right players. He is no scout, I doubt he even knows who half of the players we signed this summer actually are but we finished 5th with Pardew as a manager and a very average side tbh. But when Ashley decides he wants to sell our best player (by far) because he is far more interested in lining his own pockets than the fortunes of the football club. That is why, imo, Ashley is more to blame. He has no say at all in our recruitment (outside of maybe some frees like Obertan and Colback) and we're f***ing lucky he doesn't as well or god knows what we'd be signing. He already has far too much say in the players at his disposal in that he can ignore them and ruin them or get them sent off to Hull on loan when we need them most. The only time he gets results is when he has a few special players to win him matches with individual brilliance like Cabaye, Ba, Ben Arfa ect. Otherwise he's got no chance because he can't train a side to play as a team to save his life and he's so tactically inept that he really doesn't even know what a tactic is outside of everyone behind the ball and hope for something special from 'Atam'. Is that good enough in your opinion? That our manager relies completely on individuals? Selling Cabaye didn't force the c*** to play Dan f***ing Gosling every game while infinitely more talented players languished on the bench. It didn't force him to go into every game like he was scared of his shadow despite the fact we were already basically mathematically safe. Its an excuse and a bad one at that. No, of course it's not good enough. We want to be challenging in the top 7/8 and Pardew is not going to get us there. I just feel that whilst Ashley is still here, neither is anyone else.

Ashley deserving blame doesn't mean Pardew gets absolved of blame. If turdface intends to hang on to his job, then we have every right to abuse the living daylights out of the asslicker. A side with a free scoring Papiss Cisse, with Demba Ba, Hatem Ben Arfa, Yohan Cabaye, and Tiote/Colo/Krul/Perch/Best (wait, can't remember if he was still there) all in form is a very average side? Is that the first Newcastle side you've ever seen? because that was easily the best squad we've had since Sir Bobby's days. Our side has been average at best since SBR left, imo. From the side you mentioned we had either Ba OR Cisse scoring. Ben Arfa and Cabaye was great. Thats 3 good player. The rest were average. Not this s*** again. Ashley is a crap owner but he doesn't pick the team, dictate tactics or run training sessions. Ashley hasn't consistently picked inferior players (Smith, Perch, Gosling, Ameobi) when other options have been available to the detriment of the team and club as a whole. Ashley isn't the one who has shoehorned players into the team out of their natural positions, destroying their confidence and nullifying any threat they might have once offered. Ashley and Pardew are a good match for each other, they each cover the other's inadequacies but it has gone beyond the point now where Pardew is only holding back the club with his own shitness. Pardew is now the root cause of most of the team's issues and has to go. You ask why he should simply walk away since he has a contract? Because it's got the point where the crowd detest him, the players no longer give a f*** and even the media have started to wake up to his inabilities. If he walks away now he might still get another job in the Premiership or top end of the Championship, the longer he allows it to continue the more questions will be raised about his skills and fewer clubs will think him a potential asset. Walk away now and let the media run with the stories that it was Ashley's way of running the club that harmed the team, or carry on and let everyone know it was Pardew himself who couldn't organise a gangbang in a brothel. Mark Hughes or David O'Leary, pick a career path. I'm not saying that Pardew is innocent either, I just feel that Ashley is more to blame. Yes Pardew picks the team, but how much of a say does he have in the players at his disposal? He has shown in the past that he can get results when he has the right players. He is no scout, I doubt he even knows who half of the players we signed this summer actually are but we finished 5th with Pardew as a manager and a very average side tbh. But when Ashley decides he wants to sell our best player (by far) because he is far more interested in lining his own pockets than the fortunes of the football club. That is why, imo, Ashley is more to blame. What does it matter when he can't get anything close to the best out of players that he is given? This is a manager who thought that Hayden f***ing Mullins was a better choice than Javier Mascherano. When he's been given players that he's wanted they've hardly been spectacular successes, or have you not noticed Obertan? Again, I'm not saying Pardew is great, he has insane flaws in his ability to manage. But if he goes, what do you think is going to happen? You think Ashley is gonna dig deep to get a top young European manager to take us forward? Is he fuck! Nice cheap option. Steve Clarke? Neil Lennon? Remember this is a guy who employed JFK... Twice. Oh, and of course I've noticed Obertan, he has a ridiculously shaped head and he's fucking shit!

Not this s*** again. Ashley is a crap owner but he doesn't pick the team, dictate tactics or run training sessions. Ashley hasn't consistently picked inferior players (Smith, Perch, Gosling, Ameobi) when other options have been available to the detriment of the team and club as a whole. Ashley isn't the one who has shoehorned players into the team out of their natural positions, destroying their confidence and nullifying any threat they might have once offered. Ashley and Pardew are a good match for each other, they each cover the other's inadequacies but it has gone beyond the point now where Pardew is only holding back the club with his own shitness. Pardew is now the root cause of most of the team's issues and has to go. You ask why he should simply walk away since he has a contract? Because it's got the point where the crowd detest him, the players no longer give a f*** and even the media have started to wake up to his inabilities. If he walks away now he might still get another job in the Premiership or top end of the Championship, the longer he allows it to continue the more questions will be raised about his skills and fewer clubs will think him a potential asset. Walk away now and let the media run with the stories that it was Ashley's way of running the club that harmed the team, or carry on and let everyone know it was Pardew himself who couldn't organise a gangbang in a brothel. Mark Hughes or David O'Leary, pick a career path. I'm not saying that Pardew is innocent either, I just feel that Ashley is more to blame. Yes Pardew picks the team, but how much of a say does he have in the players at his disposal? He has shown in the past that he can get results when he has the right players. He is no scout, I doubt he even knows who half of the players we signed this summer actually are but we finished 5th with Pardew as a manager and a very average side tbh. But when Ashley decides he wants to sell our best player (by far) because he is far more interested in lining his own pockets than the fortunes of the football club. That is why, imo, Ashley is more to blame.

Tbf, I think Ashley is more to blame than Pardew is (although they both obviously have their faults). But if I was Pardew I would probably do the same. Newcastle United is just a job to him, if Ashley was stupid enough to give him a ridiculous contract why should Pardew walk away, whether he feels he can change things or not. In all honesty he probably thinks he owes nothing more to Mike Ashley as he has taken the brunt of the blame for Ashley's inadequate running of a football club and will bleed every penny he can out of him.

Incompetent.

England are fucked.

Class moment with Shearer anf Gullit

If winning the game would give us a chance of European football, or save us from relegation then yes I would want us to win. Obviously.

I hated Kinnear, I genuinely wanted Souness dead. But never, has any manager/regime made me just not care. I blame Ashley more than I blame Pardew though. Atleast under Freddy Shepperd he would happily spend loads of money (admittedly on a lot of shite) and if a manager showed bad form he would get rid.

Manager - Pep Mel Assistant Manager - Felix Magath 1st Team Coach - Gus Poyet GK - ? RB - Fabio CB - Kolo CB - R. Johnson LB - Dossena CM - Fellaini* CM - Lamella CM - Kalstrom ST - Soldado ST - Van Wolfswinkel ST - Altidore *Just wanted to point out I haven't completely given up faith in Fellaini's ability. I rated him highly at Everton, but hes been awful everytime I've seen him this season. Reminding me a bit of Joe Allen a bit, steps up and gets found out.

Anybody catch Villa's PR stunt where they had a Q&A on Twitter with Joe Bennett. Got absolutely ripped to shreds by the fans. http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/joe-bennetts-twitter-qa-backfires-6936929

I'd rather not

I do love Dortmund and Klopp is class but I would be interested to know what their fans think of their owners. They seem to have always been a selling club. I vaguely remember them being a top European side in the mid 90's (I was very young) but then they seemed to just slip off the radar. I could be completely wrong here though...

There's a reason why they commentate on Europa League games on ITV4.

Oh, and Ben Arfa still won't be able to get a game.

Last game of the season we'll be approximately 4/5-0 down to Liverpool, Tiote will hit one of those ridiculous left footed volleys that he hits once a game, going miles wide hits Ameobi and nestles into the bottom corner. That's proof enough for Pardew and cheap enough for Ashley, who will both feel that Shola, Gouffran, Cisse and Armstrong/Campbell is enough firepower for next season.

Sensational feeling right. Couldnt give a fuck who we get next round. QFs is a great acheivement and I reckon we can do any of the teams left in the competition. Elliott - 7.5 Didn't have much to do tbf but did what was needed fairly well. Good distribution. Santon - 7.5 Decent overall performance but final ball was a little frustrating. Taylor - 11 Quite possibly the best performance ive ever seen from a Newcastle defender. MYM - 8 Seems to be building a solid patnership with Saylor. Fucked up in 1st half but we got away with it. Haidara - 7 Defended well but got caught in possesion a few times. Cabaye - 6 Hope this ain't a serious injury. Tiote - 7 Worked hard. Gave the ball away quite cheaply too often. Anita - 7 Same as Tiote really. Marveax - 8.5 Always looked threatening when he had the ball, felt his final ball let him down a few times though. Great cross for the goal though. Sissoko - 8 Really looking a good player. Incredible engine. Cisse - 7.5 Didnt really get much of the ball. Good header for the goal. Jonas - 9 Shit meself when he came on, but he had a great game. Much better player when hes part of a midfield trio than when he's out on the wing. Campbell - 7 Worked hard. Worked harder trying to get Etoo's shirt though lol.

I never said I don't rate Kompany. I rate a lot of Man Citys players. I just don't hold Kompany in as high esteem as Yaya. Kompany does a good job, Yaya changes games. If I could choose on of them to have in our squad it would be Yaya Toure. Maybe its just the shape of Kompanys head reminds me of Obertan too much...

In answer to the thread title, I like Milner and Hart. I also think Yaya Toure is immense but apart from that no, there isn't. I really don't rate Mancini, a good manager would of won the league by 10 points last season, especially when you consider how bad a season it was for ManUre and Chelski (for their standards). I also don't mind Balloteli too much as I like how he is fucking with the club all the time.

What do you guys reccomend is the best website for online betting, I used to use Bet365 but my mate reckons the SkySports one is better?

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