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Who mentioned the Royal Family? Surely by your logic that if we dislike something that we pay taxes toward we should seek employment in another country? The Royal Family is a large part of our history, just like the army There's a big difference between disliking something, and actively hating something and constantly making statements (political or otherwise) about it. Like I said earlier, if he really feels that strongly about it, go and play in another country. why should he have to play in another country because he doesn't wear a poppy? It's not a legal requirement and everyone who lives here is entitled to their own view. Jingoistic poppy fascism is such bollocks. It is. It's proper embarrasing but it's likely that people who've lost family members during service for the British Army were in the crowd and watching on tv when he's openly making his pathetic little gesture turning his back to them, whether you agree with the sentiment of the poppy, the minutes silence, or the national anthem and/or believe it's jingoistic shite openly making a public stand like that is clearly disrespectful. "Fuck the British Army and fuck your deed kids hahaha I'm proper ginger and wild" He's a proper little cock and the backwards as fuck logic the people of Derry are brought up with shouldn't be just accepted because it's their opinion in a free country, the same as the opinion of the jingoistic poppy knackers clearly isn't. what? what has the anthem got to do with the military anyway? so by your logic every single person should be forced to sing and stand for the national anthem because there might happen to be family members of the britsh army in the vicinity. Do me a fucking favour man The anthem was played as they were making a display of respect towards people who have been killed at war. Whether you believe that is over the top or jingoistic or whatever it isn't really the place to be making a public display of disrespect. 'The People of Derry' get a free pass to be antagonistic arseholes because some tragedy happened about 50 year ago. You sure about that? I thought it was just played because it was in America and they play the national anthems for games over there? That is what it is, I don't really get the argument. I would obvs not be impressed if he disrupted a war memorial like Nah I've just seen the article. I'm talking complete rubbish like I've remembered that completely wrong

Who mentioned the Royal Family? Surely by your logic that if we dislike something that we pay taxes toward we should seek employment in another country? The Royal Family is a large part of our history, just like the army There's a big difference between disliking something, and actively hating something and constantly making statements (political or otherwise) about it. Like I said earlier, if he really feels that strongly about it, go and play in another country. why should he have to play in another country because he doesn't wear a poppy? It's not a legal requirement and everyone who lives here is entitled to their own view. Jingoistic poppy fascism is such bollocks. It is. It's proper embarrasing but it's likely that people who've lost family members during service for the British Army were in the crowd and watching on tv when he's openly making his pathetic little gesture turning his back to them, whether you agree with the sentiment of the poppy, the minutes silence, or the national anthem and/or believe it's jingoistic shite openly making a public stand like that is clearly disrespectful. "Fuck the British Army and fuck your deed kids hahaha I'm proper ginger and wild" He's a proper little cock and the backwards as fuck logic the people of Derry are brought up with shouldn't be just accepted because it's their opinion in a free country, the same as the opinion of the jingoistic poppy knackers clearly isn't. what? what has the anthem got to do with the military anyway? so by your logic every single person should be forced to sing and stand for the national anthem because there might happen to be family members of the britsh army in the vicinity. Do me a fucking favour man The anthem was played as they were making a display of respect towards people who have been killed at war. Whether you believe that is over the top or jingoistic or whatever it isn't really the place to be making a public display of disrespect. 'The People of Derry' get a free pass to be antagonistic arseholes because some tragedy happened about 50 year ago. You sure about that? I thought it was just played because it was in America and they play the national anthems for games over there? I'll have a look, if it isn't I'm talking shite I remember him turning his back before a game when at West Brom and the reason (at least reported) was in defiance to British war dead. If I'm talking bollocks and it was just literally him not wanting to be involved in the national anthem with no association arminance day to then I take it all back I don't really have any issue with him not wearing the poppy although I find it slightly weird.

Anyway we'll not agree. I reckon the over the top hatred of the British Army (many of which is just working class kids with nothing else obvioiusly available to them) from the people of Derry is pathetic and they need to let it go. That doesn't mean they have to agree with the actions of the British Army or even wear poppies.

How is it a strawman? He literally went out of his way to disrespect war dead and you're saying it's his right. Or was turning his back to a display of respect towards war dead not him going out of his way to disrespect war dead? You're having a go at people being 'dragged to a level of ridiculous nationalism and chest beating patriotism' yet letting other people off for being dragged to a level of ridiculous hatred and chest beating wankery.

I cannot believe I'm having to argue that going out of your way to disrespect dead kids is shite like.

And he wasn't forced to sing or any shite like that, they were just standing still.

Who mentioned the Royal Family? Surely by your logic that if we dislike something that we pay taxes toward we should seek employment in another country? The Royal Family is a large part of our history, just like the army There's a big difference between disliking something, and actively hating something and constantly making statements (political or otherwise) about it. Like I said earlier, if he really feels that strongly about it, go and play in another country. why should he have to play in another country because he doesn't wear a poppy? It's not a legal requirement and everyone who lives here is entitled to their own view. Jingoistic poppy fascism is such bollocks. It is. It's proper embarrasing but it's likely that people who've lost family members during service for the British Army were in the crowd and watching on tv when he's openly making his pathetic little gesture turning his back to them, whether you agree with the sentiment of the poppy, the minutes silence, or the national anthem and/or believe it's jingoistic shite openly making a public stand like that is clearly disrespectful. "Fuck the British Army and fuck your deed kids hahaha I'm proper ginger and wild" He's a proper little cock and the backwards as fuck logic the people of Derry are brought up with shouldn't be just accepted because it's their opinion in a free country, the same as the opinion of the jingoistic poppy knackers clearly isn't. what? what has the anthem got to do with the military anyway? so by your logic every single person should be forced to sing and stand for the national anthem because there might happen to be family members of the britsh army in the vicinity. Do me a fucking favour man The anthem was played as they were making a display of respect towards people who have been killed at war. Whether you believe that is over the top or jingoistic or whatever it isn't really the place to be making a public display of disrespect. 'The People of Derry' get a free pass to be antagonistic arseholes because some tragedy happened about 50 year ago.

Who mentioned the Royal Family? Surely by your logic that if we dislike something that we pay taxes toward we should seek employment in another country? The Royal Family is a large part of our history, just like the army There's a big difference between disliking something, and actively hating something and constantly making statements (political or otherwise) about it. Like I said earlier, if he really feels that strongly about it, go and play in another country. why should he have to play in another country because he doesn't wear a poppy? It's not a legal requirement and everyone who lives here is entitled to their own view. Jingoistic poppy fascism is such bollocks. It is. It's proper embarrasing but it's likely that people who've lost family members during service for the British Army were in the crowd and watching on tv when he's openly making his pathetic little gesture turning his back to them, whether you agree with the sentiment of the poppy, the minutes silence, or the national anthem and/or believe it's jingoistic shite openly making a public stand like that is clearly disrespectful. "Fuck the British Army and fuck your deed kids hahaha I'm proper ginger and wild" He's a proper little cock and the backwards as fuck logic the people of Derry are brought up with shouldn't be just accepted because it's their opinion in a free country, the same as the opinion of the jingoistic poppy knackers clearly isn't.

Love a bit of "I'm proper cool because i hate my country so much" craic like.

I wouldn't have put 1-0 Chelsea or Morata on anyway like but still annoying

quickest and easiest risk free way to do this? EDIT: I'm a fucking idiot. Completely forgot it was a Sunday and thought it was a 7:45 kick off

fair play to the cunt

From memory he wasn't the one who did the foul but I might be wrong. He was in the ear of the ref before being booked though, then give him a thumbs up after.

Aye, it was dissent - for some reason. He had the audacity to flick his hand in the air in disagreement with the referees decision. It was the most merge booking for dissent I've seen in a while. On the other hand Shelvey needs to stop sarcastically applauding/thumbs upping the referee after being booked, especially when he's being booked for dissent He'll definitely be given an immediate second yellow by some cunt.

:lol: fucking hell that's outstanding

Rafael McCarthy

Not sure what you're asking? We are creatively bereft in all areas of the pitch other than Jonjo Shelvey with Merino out.

He's another player who would be fine if we weren't so creatively bereft elsewhere.

When his Hollywood balls don't come off people get on his back like but without them we have very little going forward unless the opposition is all over the shop like Bournemouth were in the first half. He can find a gap in an otherwise incredibly tight game which completely opens the opposition up for an attack, it's great to see like. I just really want to see Merino ahead of him again like we did against Liverpool, Merino battling in midfield (and hopefully being better on the ball than he was in that game) with Shelvey in space behind him allowing him to spread the ball about with more freedom. With Gayle on the pitch he hopefully has a better outlet to hit too. I still don't think it'll be enough to turn us into a good attacking side but we'll hopefully be back to creating chances again.

11 starts last season. 4 goals, 6 assists. Selfish cunt. In a much inferior league. Scored 1 goal in 7 months, but he's a fantastic striker because he's a mad bastard. Wasn’t he also injured and barely playing for those 7 months? Not like Neesy to talk shit mind. Neither of our other strikers look like scoring, he’s got a much better record than them this season despite barely getting on the field. No idea how anyone can even try and dispute that he should be on the pitch. A few games ago aye, but if Gayle is fit then why should Mitrovic be starting ahead of him?

He always looks so fucking miserable too. I think it might just be his resting facial expression when he's playing but he walks around as if he's constantly arguing with himself in his head.

That's a load of shite like, Mitrovic's best quality is his link up play and how he brings others into the game. It's debatable that he'd be better if he was more of a 'plays for himself' striker, like Gayle Mitrovic isn't ruthless enough, he cannot play on the toes of the defenders like Gayle can, that's his problem. Joselu might run around like a headless chicken more than him like, I bet the team love him for it. EDIT: I mean 'he plays for himself' is a bit of a misnomer anyway. The vast majority of players will want personal glory, it's not just the obvious unashamed ones like Ronaldo and Neymar. If Joselu doesn't want to be the star man then, as the main striker, that's actually a canny big problem You want your number 9 to be unforgiving and greedy (within reason obviously), to be picking the ball up and walking to the penalty spot. You want him to be shouting at his midfielders for not spotting his runs etc.

Yet Joselu looked like Joselu. This 2 up top argument is odd, 4-5-1 works and has always worked. It isn't without it's own issues but it's hardly a formation that automatically makes your strikers shite. Gayle looked OK because he knows how to play as a number 9.

He's our best set piece taker by a mile, his crossing is far better than anyone else in the squad in general when he gets into position, his link up play with Yedlin is pretty strong, he's one of the better passers we have in the squad, he works his bollocks off to help out in defence, he doesn't lose it cheaply. He's all around just a solid option on the right who fulfils the role of 'grafting winger' well enough. I don't think he's amazing. He carries out his role well enough though where as I don't think Atsu does.

I'm saying Ritchie isn't tasked with running at defenders so I'm not going to judge him on that in the same way I will Atsu. This is like comparing Guttierrez with Obertan or something. Obertan was legitimately just shite where as Jonas was a fairly average player who formed a great partnership with Enrique due to his workrate and the understanding they had. Both were awful in the final 3rd.