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Tbh if Harry had any sense he would throw the game considering us being relegated along with them would reduce their chances of coming straight back up dramatically in comparison to Wigan.

I'm going with this approach. For my own sanity if anything.

Good post Nixon, I have no idea what you're going on about there though? When has any club in the history of football ever went out and signed 5 players from the same club in January? We've hopefully improved our squad (we'll have to see next season) and we definitely shouldn't have been in the situation to have to panic buy but I'm unsure of who we should have bought? We're an injury hit squad low on confidence with a poor manager who habe just been tanked twice at home, I think people are looking into that too much to be honest. If we'd have signed 5 Premiership players (including 2 young defenders) do you honesty think they would have been a certainty to have faired any better once they were rushed into the team together? If I've missed the point I apologise, I just think injuries are a far bigger reason for our recent form than where our new lads have come from. My point was more, if they had come from the same club (let's say even 2-3 of them had) there would be an understanding, a familiarity. Is it FIFA that uses the 'chemistry' system? That is the kind of thing I mean. Instead you're plucking 5 strangers from another league and expecting them to adapt to a wholly different style. Even the guys they have a common bond with (the French speakers) they don't know. Only Debuchy knows any of the current squad in Cabaye. I guess the overriding point to my ramble was, when you bring in so many new players who have no predisposed understanding with their teammates, you need a captain/leader more than ever. When you don't have that, things like Saturday happen (admittedly not normally to the tune of 6 goals) where the team looks disjointed and no one is telling Debuchy when to move up, when to try and play offside. Coloccini revels in that kind of thing. He had his shaky period in England and now will boss players around with little care for what they think. yeah I agree with that.

Good post Nixon, I have no idea what you're going on about there though? When has any club in the history of football ever went out and signed 5 players from the same club in January? We've hopefully improved our squad (we'll have to see next season) and we definitely shouldn't have been in the situation to have to panic buy but I'm unsure of who we should have bought? We're an injury hit squad low on confidence with a poor manager who habe just been tanked twice at home, I think people are looking into that too much to be honest. If we'd have signed 5 Premiership players (including 2 young defenders) do you honesty think they would have been a certainty to have faired any better once they were rushed into the team together? If I've missed the point I apologise, I just think injuries are a far bigger reason for our recent form than where our new lads have come from.

This, it would be mental to drop Taylor for Williamson, he's had a shit couple of weeks but he's shown himself to be a far better defender than that.

Absolutely loved that. Brushing Taylor aside like he wasn't even fucking there

Where's the post at where someone photoshopped it onto the image of Ben Arfa skinning Neil Taylor?

what a cunt

Our squad is well stocked with players who finished 5th last season though, 2 years or 10 years they clearly have some kind of bond and can play together. I'm not discounting the importance of having a few old heads in the squad and I realise that just throwing a load of new players into the mix is a gamble, the more you play together the more in tune you become, I suppose it's basic stuff, I just don't think the problem stems from not having some sort of "English spine". EDIT: I think Coloccini being injured has been pretty massive problem for us mind, an unstable defence can destroy confidence and he's obviously central to a lot of what we do regardless of how people view him as a captain. I don't think we've ever really looked well as a side when he's been out (not that we've looked great with him in this season for the most part).

Hmm, I'm going to go with Carvalho, Makélélé & Drogba Gudjohnsen. EDIT: Scratch that

How are the Englishmen the spine? Fair enough Terry was a good defender but Carvalhio was the heart of that Chelsea defence. Simply saying "Terry and Lampard were the spine" is, as I said, just convenient. Sorry Hans, I was being sarcastic. areet, it's late.

Man City won the league last year without an English spine too which was strange.

How are the Englishmen the spine? Fair enough Terry was a good defender but Carvalhio was the heart of that Chelsea defence. Simply saying "Terry and Lampard were the spine" is, as I said, just convenient.

Chelsea aren't a good example either. Terry and Lampard are the heart and soul of that team and have been for ten years. Mourinho knew that too. Sewelly's right though, signing a load of Englishmen will no more solve such a problem. I consider Krul, Colo and Jonas just as much a part of the club's spine as Taylor or Shola. If there is a problem with the French players, it stems only from them being here such a short amount of time but in substantial numbers more than their nationality. Cultural stereotypes help nobody. The point is that they went out and filled their squad with a load of talent who had never played on these shores and still won the league. Far more of a mix-up than what we've done. Saying "ah they had Terry and Lampard though" is just convenient to your argument.

Cannot help but feel this "too many French blokes" is a load of bollocks like, not that I would argue that signing purely players with no Premiership experience is perfect, but we just need to look at other sides in the league to see that it's largely a load of cliched wank. Mourinho at Chelsea for example, the only major Premiership ready players he signed in 3 year were SWP (lol) & Ashley Cole.

This, it would be absolutely ludicrous. I suppose I don't know how I would feel as a Wigan fan (or maybe that should be "as THE Wigan fan" hahahahaha).

Sam would fucking love to put us into further trouble the absolute shit house.

I know it's a cliché by now and Sunderland have been utterly abject, but there is literally NO FUCKING CHANCE we would be putting this performance together under Pardew. So depressing. I do still feel that we'll do enough in 3 games to get away from it by the skin of our teeth but this is really depressing to watch. It's going to be even worse watching us needlessly try and sit on a lead at QPR too.

I view that post with utter content. :lol:

Aye, such a weird fucking few days. My emotions are all over the shop. Currently thinking we could finish above them.

We really need to use that QPR game to try and better our GD. We'll be contempt with a 1 goal win though.

Norwich play Villa at the weekend Goddammit. Fixture Computer Y U HATE US I'm not sure if that's good for us or not tbh?

Aye I'd prefer a season of more in lower league football than Sunderland "saving us" like.